Quite literally 1984.
double plus exactly
I call them algorisms.
Doubleplusungood
Turns out it wasn’t the authoritarian governments that would rewrite the dictionary, it was tech corporations appeasing advertising and payment corporations.
It all sounds like something that Douglas Adams would write.
Or Sir Terry Pratchett is you replaced “corporations” with “guilds”.
it was glaringly obvious on youtube, content creator had to be careful of what they say.
Is there even a difference when those corporations collectively own the government?
I mean, said corporations are empowered to be able to do this by authoritarian governments that are largely bought and paid for by said corporations, who now run said failed democracies as puppet governments of corporate interests.
It’s cringy because they are letting advertisers direct culture.
Don’t patronize those platforms.
100% agree. ridiculous that people are allowing their online lingo to affect their irl speech
Advertising is an incoherent industry where it is generally understood and accepted for people to pay to not receive the product. Pay your advertising protection money or your content will be interrupted. Absolute racketeering.
The problem is always the money, for example YouTubers get paid because of publicities, that’s why they say “unalived” and not killed, because if they do they get demonetised.
Or banned ofc.
That’s why I like it here, you can say penis and not get spermabanned.
Has anyone ever actually gotten in trouble for saying “killed?”
You really don’t get in trouble. Youtube’s AI will demonetize the video or the entire channel if it decides it doesn’t like the words you said. Which means no ad-sense money.
and there is no official list of words that Youtube doesn’t like. Youtubers can only make educated guess based trial and error. It probably works a lot like the algorithm that shadow deletes comments.
Theres wide agreement that suicide, kill, murder and rape will result in demonization. Some times you have say a combination of those words to trigger it. Happens more often to certain channels (usually the smaller ones) while others can say whatever and never have a video demonetized (usually the corporate owned channels)
eitherway youtube’s AI doesn’t forgive and once you’re on it’s shit list your channel is fucked and you might as well delete it.
Even more insidiously, they can also de-prioritize videos from being shown by the algorithm if they contain no-no words without actually de-monitizing them. So your video that would normally get a million views might only get 100,000 with no word of warning or any indication from YouTube of what exactly you did wrong or even that this is caused by YouTube and not your video being bad.
Note- I talk about YouTube but they all do this.
i used to follow channels, where the YTubers were loudmouths, they switched to patreon and then back, because suddenly turning MAGAT-ty isnt helping them(some asian channel talking about news)
It really is creepy how it’s all turning into a religion with AI and algorithms as cryptic intangible deities. Please them and they’ll reward you. Anger them and they’ll curse you. The youtube cult is priests presenting paintings of red arrows and circles to their god while followers chant “for the algorithm!” “first!” in the comments. The priests ends each sermon by telling the true believers to sign a book and ring a bell icon. Why? Because they believe the algorithm likes it.
Social media just became an outlet for some people to let out steam. Unfortunately, not all people are able to turn around to fix their own personal issues, but instead end up succumbing tragically because they feel they no longer have power, and so they publicize their final deed, literally issuing their suicide notes online. That’s why you have these social media corporations seeking to control suicide ideation by means of removing language connected to suicide.
this post made me commit sewerslide
IMO platforms that filter such words are in need of replacement. Easier said than done, but best acknowledged as soon as possible.
IIRC the unalive and grape garbage didn’t start out being an advertiser thing, it was a China thing because that who controls your brain aka TikTok.
It might be an advertiser thing now, but it’s also always been a hostile foreign government thing too.
People were using “unalive” on YouTube before TikTok even existed.
For those keeping score in the audience, there was a 2013 episode of Ultimate Spider Man that used “unalive”, and Tik Tok launched in 2016.
It kind of surprised me.
News flash: you will never send a stronger message than ignoring advertisers and their whipping boys.
On the other hand, there’s something kind of beautiful about the way language is able to adapt to hostile conditions.
Strangely, the linguistic contortions of social media are one of the few things that give me hope that LLMs won’t completely destroy mass communication.
They’ll just ban the new terms eventually if they get big enough.
It’s just another form of taboo for the euphemism treadmill honestly. Like there was a time that what a lot of people now know as the r-slur was a term to try to destigmatize those conditions. When that was the polite and civilized way to refer to someone with developmental or intellectual disabilities. This is just a taboo created top down rather than bottom up.
and we will keep updating the dictionaries until we address the root causes (slow, difficult, and unlikely)
Idiot was originally a purely medical term for mental disability, as was moron, retard, and now even the term “mentally disabled” is falling out of favor for “intellectual disability”
they call it “neurodivergent” ive seen gen z get upset over not calling people that.
I mean, when I did physics in high school (in Norwegian) the correct term for something slowing down was retardation, as opposed to speeding up, acceleration.
I wonder if this still is the case, the dictionary is updated all the time, as words take on new meaning, and that’s fine. I’m not fussed by the whole master to main in git, for example, though I’d prefer trunk.
I will get unnecessarily vocal if someone makes a point of saying that it’s pronounced jif though…
flame retardant is still a thing, for fire extinguisher, plus retarding growth of organic systems. just not calling people retarded,.
I’m with you, I didn’t mean to say it had the same meaning, just that when one way of using a word becomes wrong to use, we tend to stop using the word all together.
Which, I just want to be absolutely clear about, was not meant as some old man yelling at clouds reaction to language evolving.
it’s definitely still used in aviation, because that kind of thing can never change lest people fucking die because a pilot got confused.
i imagine it’s quite a thing to hear the “retard, retard, retard” alarm the first time as an english speaker
