It’s very much a relevant fact, especially in areas where natural predators have been eradicated either through habitat loss, or intentional hunting before we had conservation efforts in place. A wildlife manager considers every variable before determining how many hunting licenses are issued for the good of the ecology. Every hunter understands the balance, and the factors that determine a unit’s carrying capacity, it’s part of the mandatory hunter safety course training.
Oh bull, humans have severely beaten natural predators and prey has exploded. And over population is bad news for any species; over feeding, disease, etc. I’ve seen deer populations that were staggering in size, no idea their fate, but it can’t be good.
Don’t want hunters? Fine, I’ve never hunted either, don’t care to. Reintroduce predators, so if you can make that happen. Farmers in Colorado shit kittens when the state reintroduced wolves.
Ever seen a panther in your neck of the woods? I have, and despite being armed, I wouldn’t fancy my chances. (And thank god, we ended up ignoring one another.) Maybe we could get some more of those? I’d be all for it.
Ever had a black bear in your house? I have. Love those guys, and they’re mostly harmless to humans. Given that people around here are used to them, they still flip when one hops the fence or dumps their garbage.
Consider that those two animals are absolutely illegal to kill except in self-defense. Think Bubba doesn’t smoke 'em on site anyway? Because Bubba do that.
So how well do you think reintroduction of predators would work?
So starvation to control the population instead of hunting, got ya. What if the predators prey is plants? More predators => less plants => less predators => more plants?
So starvation to control the population instead of hunting, got ya.
A.K.A. The way nature works… for hundreds of millions of years? Yes. Exactly that.
If the carrying capacity of an ecosystem can’t support more predators, you don’t get more predators. The balance that nature has perfected always seems to be disrupted by humans looking to “control the population”.
What if the predators prey is plants? More predators => less plants => less predators => more plants?
Again, a balance that simply works without us interfering. When animals (and plants) are left to their own devices, they thrive. The only time this doesn’t happen is when humans get in the way.
Right, deer in the populated areas of north America have no preditors any more. So that population needs to be controlled. In the city and county i live in there are bow hunting programs in the parks since there aren’t many places you could hunt otherwise. If not disease and cars are what would control it. Thats led then ideal. Plus if you don’t want the meat there are programs to donate it to shelters.
Not sure if you are serious here. The definition of predation is killing and eating other animals. An organism eating plants is prey and its population gets controlled by predation.
This is a fact that every hunter wants to ignore, yet that justification always comes up when [insert any animal] is killed.
It’s very much a relevant fact, especially in areas where natural predators have been eradicated either through habitat loss, or intentional hunting before we had conservation efforts in place. A wildlife manager considers every variable before determining how many hunting licenses are issued for the good of the ecology. Every hunter understands the balance, and the factors that determine a unit’s carrying capacity, it’s part of the mandatory hunter safety course training.
Oh bull, humans have severely beaten natural predators and prey has exploded. And over population is bad news for any species; over feeding, disease, etc. I’ve seen deer populations that were staggering in size, no idea their fate, but it can’t be good.
Don’t want hunters? Fine, I’ve never hunted either, don’t care to. Reintroduce predators, so if you can make that happen. Farmers in Colorado shit kittens when the state reintroduced wolves.
Ever seen a panther in your neck of the woods? I have, and despite being armed, I wouldn’t fancy my chances. (And thank god, we ended up ignoring one another.) Maybe we could get some more of those? I’d be all for it.
Ever had a black bear in your house? I have. Love those guys, and they’re mostly harmless to humans. Given that people around here are used to them, they still flip when one hops the fence or dumps their garbage.
Consider that those two animals are absolutely illegal to kill except in self-defense. Think Bubba doesn’t smoke 'em on site anyway? Because Bubba do that.
So how well do you think reintroduction of predators would work?
So starvation to control the population instead of hunting, got ya. What if the predators prey is plants? More predators => less plants => less predators => more plants?
A.K.A. The way nature works… for hundreds of millions of years? Yes. Exactly that.
If the carrying capacity of an ecosystem can’t support more predators, you don’t get more predators. The balance that nature has perfected always seems to be disrupted by humans looking to “control the population”.
Again, a balance that simply works without us interfering. When animals (and plants) are left to their own devices, they thrive. The only time this doesn’t happen is when humans get in the way.
Right, deer in the populated areas of north America have no preditors any more. So that population needs to be controlled. In the city and county i live in there are bow hunting programs in the parks since there aren’t many places you could hunt otherwise. If not disease and cars are what would control it. Thats led then ideal. Plus if you don’t want the meat there are programs to donate it to shelters.
And that’s rather the problem with predator populations, isn’t it? You understand all of this, yet still think hunters are using false justifications?
Not sure if you are serious here. The definition of predation is killing and eating other animals. An organism eating plants is prey and its population gets controlled by predation.