“how old are you?”
TURBO!!!
The “Turbo” function was a masterstroke of marketing.
The actual function of the turbo is to slow the machine down, so it can be compatible with older games and software that ran too quickly on those newer systems.
Of course calling it a “slow down” button wasn’t very sexy, so just flip the function around and label it turbo instead!
Mmmm - turbo button. Classic.
Gotta have an LED display so everyone can see your speed in megahertz.
what the actual hell is that? a port connector for the borg?
It’s a connector for an IBM 7000 series mainframe.
TY!
That’s so cool! Did you work on those back in the 60s?
Nah, I’m not that old. My dad was in tech so I got to see a lot of neat old stuff growing up.
Is your username a beyond all reason reference or a late Roman Empire reference?
I still have my old PC with AT keyboard connector and serial port for mouse.
A yung’un huh
Fairly certain my first computer used something like this for the keyboard. I did not have a mouse.
The venerable DIN connector!
That thing was a monster!
IIRC, that’s electrically compatible with the smaller, more fragile PS/2 connector. The adapters are just wiring it down to the smaller connector (and maybe some impedance matching resistors?).
Only if it’s an AT keyboard. XT keyboards are incompatible and require active conversions. They use the same port.
I did have a converter from this to a ps/2 connection when I got a newer computer.
Should also work with a USB to PS/2 so you can use it on a modern machine if you want. Some modern keyboards are still backward compatible as well. I have a USB keyboard I can use on my old Din machines using two adapters.
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Um , b4 that there were serial mice on my tandy
I thought I was hot shit when I got a tape drive for my Tandy that worked about 60% of the time
Dam don’t remember that. My co worker was telling me about hole punch paper when he worked with his father that he inserted instead of magnetic storages.
Big keyboard jack, serial for mouse, parallel for printer
This one for me. Was born in 82.
Born in '88 and this was also my childhood. But to be fair, my parents bought the PC from Sears so it was probably an older, budget model. It ran Windows 3.1 and had a 16 MHz 386 with the Turbo button.
My 286 had PS/2 ports instead of the obsolete DIN keyboard/serial mouse.
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Don’t forget the serial input for gamepads and joysticks in the dedicated sound board for some reason
And because the PC only have 1 serial port, you disconnect the printer and use a parallel to serial adapter.
Except that wasn’t a serial port, it was midi, and the reason it was on the sound card was because the input was analog.
Your joystick was just two fancy potentiometers, and your soundcard decoded the voltage on the middle legs into a position.
Soundcards handled joysticks because they had the fastest ADCs.
More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_port
The 15-pin D-sub connector itself was apparently a combination of analog and digital. It had to be, since MIDI is digital (it’s right there in the name: Musical Instrument Digital Interface). TIL it wasn’t all digital.
Except that wasn’t a serial port, it was midi, and the reason it was on the sound card was because the input was analog.
Considering MIDI stands for Musical Instrument Digital Interface, I have no idea what you’re trying to say.
huh, i thought it was just because “owning a sound card” and “likely to play games” was the biggest overlap of the Venn circles.
Wow, 30 years later and I’m just learning this now. Thank you
They didn’t even use an ADC. They used 555 timers to produce a pulse. They measured the length of the pulse to determine the potentiometer position. Since there are 4 analog inputs, they typically used the 558 timer which is the quad version of the 555.
And here I thought I had it all figured out. But it does make sense. Doing it with an analog signal introduces noise and measuring pulse widths is going to be simpler.
I don’t know what I’m going to do with this information but I’m glad it’s in my brain now.
Early PC only had 5 card slots, and the only jack on the motherboard was the keyboard. One slot is going to be used by a video card, one’s probably being used by a hard drive controller, one’s probably used by a parallel + serial card. Soundcards also included controller ports to try to save a slot.
I thought sometimes they called them game ports (for the joystick.)
I reasoned if you are installing a sound card, you are probably doing some gaming, so it made sense to sort of bundle those together.
Its on the sound card because it’s a midi port. Its designed for connecting a keyboard (as in electronic piano). Most people used it for gamepads but that’s not what it was there for.
And because the PC only have 1 serial port, you disconnect the printer and use a parallel to serial adapter.
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Technically speaking, the joystick involved analog voltages to be converted to digital signals… And what else have ADC (analog-to-digital converters) chips? Soundcards, because ADCs are used to convert mic input, alongside the “line in”, both of which are analog voltages, into PCM signals, which are discrete (as in “non-continuous”) streams of bits. Something inverse happens for “headphone”, “speakers” and “line out” pins: a PCM stream coming from the sound driver is converted to analog voltages using a DAC.
While other ports also happened to deal with analog<->digital conversion, a soundcard was particularly specialized at this job, alongside graphic (VGA) cards (VGA has lots of analog signals), but graphic cards were already too busy with thousands/millions of pixels and, well, with computation of graphics.
Other boards aren’t so fitting for analog-digital job. For example: a NIC (Network Interface Card) already deals with digital signal so, theoretically, no conversion is necessary from/to analog. Parallel ports (those for printers) also natively deals with digital signals. Expansion cards with USB ports, same thing. And so on…
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I’m in this picture.
Nailed it! I was going to post the DIN-5 kb connector.
Yes, this is where my PC master gaming started.
They all got bought by acer and turned into the shittiest brand-name PCs on the planet.
Wasn’t gateway already shitty to begin with?
All the naysayers never used a Gateway AnyKey keyboard… their loss.
Such nice keyboards. My Gateway 2000 was from 1991 and I believe they were pretty top notch at the time. It wasn’t until later that they went to shit. Through all the years and the massive amounts of mods, it didn’t fail until I retired it sometime in the mid to late 2000’s and only because home routers now did what it could do…faster and for a lot let power. It’s still in storage and I bet that if I powered it on today, it would boot.
These little overclockable bastards …
Old enough
“hey guys–”
JOYSTICK PORT!
“not what I’m called.”
Yeah a 9 pin dsub. Still used widely in industry applications and other Fields. Edit: just saw that these were used for mouse or keyboard input, wth. This is truly old.
My first PC was a Timex Sinclair 1000 and I wrote a text-based choose your own adventure game in basic for it and saved the program on audio cassette.
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I actually wanted a PS2 port because it works with interrupts rather than polling but they aren’t really included anymore.
I feel like they don’t make boards for people like me who want small boards with a super niche port.
When a MoDT Mini-ITX board comes out with a PS2 port I will buy that instantly
Listen up, computer, I’m typing NOW. Not whenever you get around to polling the USB device. Sheesh.
Can you actually notice the latency?
I only had it briefly a long time ago,
I think certain things can stall the computer from polling, so if you’re computer is super weak or youre doing something super heavy it would suffer
Maybe its a placebo effect but I did notice it handle itself better when running multiple things.
I’m this old
Shit. I know what this is. Goddammit.
Sorry bro
The ol’ RS232?
No, this is the rs232 connector (officially the DB9)
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DB9 is still used on for MIDI on electronic instruments, though some manufacturers are moving to doing it with a TRS 3.5mm plug since it only uses 3 pins.
I had a mouse that plugged into the serial port, but my first computer was a Commodore 64.
