• TomMasz@piefed.social
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    The collective memory of how dangerous milk was before pasteurization has been lost. Just like with polio before the vaccine. We’re doomed to go back to those days if things continue in the direction they’re going.

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      This ignorance is being manufactured. We’re not “forgetting”. There are many propaganda stations, some quite literally funded by russia to promote ignorance like this in America.

      Until corporate news admits that, and therefore its own role in it, this ignorance will continue to grow.

      And to be clear; corporate news will never admit that.

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        The irony was during COVID-19, the Russian population believed their own disinformation, leading to atrocious infection and death rates.

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        We don’t need Russian disinformation or funding. The Secretary of Health and the worlds biggest podcaster will happily disinform the public on spotify’s dime and entirely of their own accord.

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      The vaccine one sucks because their idiocy can affect herd immunity and hurt people who can’t use vaccines for other reasons. But if they want to drink raw milk then that’s on them. They’re only hurting themselves. I just don’t care anymore.

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        But if they want to drink raw milk then that’s on them. They’re only hurting themselves. I just don’t care anymore.

        It’s not that I don’t care anymore. I’m actually celebrating their demise. Thank god the stupid Republicans are killing themselves. Will miracles never cease?

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        They’re only hurting themselves.

        You’re commenting on an article about a woman who killed her wanted unborn child and made another child sick. They’re not just hurting themselves.

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          “Unborn child” is a paradox. You can’t kill someone that doesn’t exist. Hurting a child who really does exist should get her charged with all manner of crimes, but we’re talking about Florida, so that’s dependent on her skin tone and wealth.

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            Don’t be pedantic with a pregnant person who is trying to reach live birth and raise the child about when it’s ok to say “child.” There’s nothing paradoxical about it in that situation. The time to consider being pedantic is when debating with a pro-forced-birth authoritarian who thinks they should have a say in someone else’s reproductive choices. And even then, the person who needs to have an abortion at 20 weeks isn’t going to think they’re discarding a fetus, they’re going to think they’re losing a child they wanted. At 20 weeks it’s about the size of a banana (so it’s not going to just idly discharge along with the uterine lining like it’s a zygote that just didn’t implant) and has a brain, a nervous system, a hardening skeleton, a digestive system, a functioning pancreas, etc… It’s very much their child (and their choice).

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      100%. I think we have the same problem with fascism, too. There is a theory (though I think it’s debunked) about approximate 80 year cycles due to people dying off and memories lost and lessons having to be re-learned by the young, since they are ignorant.

      Certainly things like vaccines are victims of their own success - the low-info can innocently bat their eyes and claim that vaccines never did nothing for them, nohow, because they haven’t seen the alternative themselves. This is why the antivaccine insanity didn’t really take root with boomers [1] and older Gen X quite so much. I have no idea what RFK’s excuse is, other than probably being a total idiot and selfish asshole out to make money on the “wellness” movement.

      [1] My parents were boomers and both of them didn’t even believe I was serious when I was first telling them about vaccine denialism I was running across online in the mid-90s. They thought that was a thing of the distant past, when some xtians resisted vaccines, because it was messing with their god’s will. And my grandmother, who was a nurse, got very worked up in the 90s when I told her about it (she was silent or greatest generation). I legit think she would have slapped the face of anyone spouting anti-vaccine bullshit to her in-person, since she had stories about the kinds of things she saw as a child and as a nurse when it came to kids dying from now-preventable disease. It made her blood boil to hear that people my age and younger were actively resisting vaccinations. I’m kind of glad she didn’t live to see the Covid reaction…

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    If they go after parents who let their kids walk to the shops, then they put her into the slammer and let her rot.

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    OK, I’m confused. I was in Haute Savoy on a road trip last weekend and picked up some cheeses from a little shop along the road, and 2 bottles of wine. Nobody is getting sick from cheeses in France. Is the real problem here just the usual horrendous food safety practices of the US? Should we be chlorinating American Cheese to be sure? Or is it specifically a pregnancy thing? What am I missing?

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    MAGAt problems in the Florida Oblast. Zero sympathy and keep following every piece of advice from RFK Jr.

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    Maddox herself also got so sick that she actually had a miscarriage, 20 weeks into a pregnancy.

    It being Florida, is she being charged for murder because she caused herself to have an abortion?

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    She mad at herself right? Because pasteurization is very available and works. Unless she wants to go back to a time when formaldehyde was added to milk to keep it longer. Fucking insanity these people have is unreal.

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      If you own your cow and know it’s cleanliness and health, please go right ahead and drink that milk! But if you honestly think you can drink raw milk from a larger farm, you deserve everything you get. I say let them at this point. Drink away. I’m going to stick with my “Processed” milk. The nutritional value from pasteurized milk and raw milk is small.

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        I don’t trust any large scale anything to be safe anymore. Now I’ll admit when I first heard about the raw milk tend, I got curious. Did my research, and ten minutes later decided I was just going to continue living in the dark on of it tastes so much better. Even in my small little community there were a couple family operations offering it, but the risk just isn’t worth it. And I have one of those crazy mutant immune systems that would likely keep me safe, but I have that cause I don’t purposefully test it. I didn’t even get COVID and I was working at a popular bar and arcade chain in one of the worst states.

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    The cool part is how she hurt her kid and her unborn child because they had to trust her to keep them safe. /s

    I hate stupid people. I genuinely have no sympathy when they hurt themselves. But I feel awful for the people they harm who cannot protect themselves.

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      But I feel awful for the people they harm who cannot protect themselves.

      Same. What the “maha” movement is going to do to lots of innocent victims - including children of morons - is going to be terrible.

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      Sounds to me like the police and CPS need to get involved, what with the illegal abortion and child abuse.

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      Ugh. Like those Parents of the Year in Texas whose 12-year-old died of measles. They still stand by their choice not to vaccinate, and it’s like, what would that 12-year-old think? She was a living, thinking person. Would she be proud to be a prop in their little fascist play?

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      According to Project 2025, they want the US to have population of like 250k people. They have a lot of killing to do.

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            Yeah, it was 500 million, worldwide. The US xtian fundies like Alex Jones went absolutely apeshit because they thought it was the (((illuminati))) and/or the (((globalists))) and/or “Satanists” that were behind it.

            The black helicopter crowd/fundies are the same people that go bug-eyed over phrases like “you will own nothing and be happy” and the idea of updating the SAD to have something other than gigantic slabs of beef, so…to even have the suggestion of trying to maintain some kind of balance on the planet drives them bonkers, because they don’t math very well, and their idea of progress is infinite growth. Which might make sense if they also didn’t denigrate things like transhumanism and humanity setting its sights on something higher than sitting around and waiting for Jebus to come back.

            Lastly, of course, one of these terrorists likely got so worked up that they blew up the Guidestones…

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        Project 2025 is an absolutely vile, evil plan. But don’t make shit up; you’re not doing anything constructive to fight them by telling outright lies.

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      These people are fascist eugenicists. They believe in a warped understanding of “survival of the fittest” where the fittest are the richest and being rich proves they’re the fittest and the ones who deserve to survive. They’re not trying to keep anyone else alive.

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    that she had no idea that there was any risk to drinking the milk

    Did this person not take 9th grade history?

    The ignorance and stupidity of people is astounding

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      Its what the experts call “natural selection”. It makes the human race stronger when the dumb ones kill themselves off. We should thank her and her kind lol. Also thoughts and prayers or whatever

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      Learning is so liberal. I mean who cares what those egghead poindexters might have to say about science, history and reality?

      I’ll barely pass high school - or maybe even drop out - and then, later, when I don’t have any of the actual intellectual tools to do so as a consequence of being such a free-spirited contrarian, I will then dO mY oWn rEsEaRcH!

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    Thots and prayers, Karen. We’ve only known raw milk is bad for you since… EVER.

    I wouldnt be surprised if this woman also smears shit on her face for exfoliation.