I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.
“Nothing new under the sun” I suppose!
All ye who enter abandon all hope
Seriously, you people are a bunch of cake eaters. “The future is scary and things are getting worse.” It’s always been scary, you’ve just been privileged enough for it not to be.
All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it.
Bro, people have it bad NOW. Life is and has always been suffering and struggle. Get out of your online bubble and go see some shit. Anyone here who says their life outlook looks bleak would have said the exact same shit 30 years ago or even 100 years ago.
Life is suffering no matter when.
Just read all of Vonnegut’s works again. It’s weird hearing him outline, from the 1940s onward, the same exact issues we have today. There are easily 300 passages I could quote here and claim as my own commentary on modern life. No one would blink.
“The good Earth - we could have saved it, but we were too damn cheap and lazy.”
“America is the wealthiest nation on Earth, but its people are mainly poor, and poor Americans are urged to hate themselves. To quote the American humorist Kin Hubbard, ‘It ain’t no disgrace to be poor, but it might as well be.’ It is in fact a crime for an American to be poor, even though America is a nation of poor.”
Suffering is not new. It’s universal. To exist is to suffer. Even if we were to find an infinite source of energy and food, we would find a way to suffer.
Seriously. I regularly meet people who make top 5% incomes, like 250K+. They living in luxury condos, have had their entire life paved out for them by welathy parents, and will never have any real problems or struggles in their lives.
What do they talk about every time? How poor they are. How everything is so hard. How they struggle so much with daily tasks. How their job is so awful. Why can’t they just go be on a yacht somewhere forever? How their friend/boss/parent is mean and not giving them more stuff, etc. etc. Why isn’t their life perfect and wonderful life they were promised? Why aren’t they famous and rich like some other person they met once? Oh, and how the govt is evil because it taxes them too much and it’s not fair that their multi-million dollar inheritance might be taxed too so they might only inherent $20 million, not $28 million, the horror and unfairness of it all!
And the millionaires/billionaires… all feel this same way too. Hence why they are all building apocalypse estates in New Zealand and bunkers in old missile silos and whining about how the mean government taxing them is so unfair.
No, I try to keep in mind that most situations are transient and I don’t really know what people born today are going to be dealing with.
Climate change looks pretty bad for people going into the future, don’t want to discount or downplay that. But other things, from the terrible political trends and hatred to wars to failed or booming economies will ebb and flow over lifetimes, and it’s hard to say in many ways if the future holds better or worse for today’s children.
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Without knowing your friends social economic conditions it is hard to asses…
But this OP is cringe AF though.
Mind your own business lol
If you don’t want children, good for you. Trying to act like it is a moral imperative is a maturity issue.
I dont care what people do. But they should put a little more thought into it other than “I human. Must make babby”. I can guarantee you a very large amount of the population thinks this way.
the fertility numbers no longer support this racist/classist trope. I am sure you got some anecdotes tho…
you are about 10 years late to this shill OP.
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Mix of sad and angry. I see these broodmares popping out kids and I think of the movie Idiocracy because all of the more thoughtful people I know limited how many kids they had while the people having litters of kids all seem to be short-sighted selfish assholes. The thoughtful folks worry about saving college funds for the kids. The selfish ones don’t. They don’t have any plans, they are too busy making babies – and those kids are going to be predisposed to be the same way which will make matters worse for the handful of kids raised by thoughtful parents.
This comment is not grounded in any hard data besides this persons anecdote…
Statistically speaking I don’t think there is a single large group of people with replacement level fertility. American racists loved dunking on blacks and latinos but they haven’t been replacement level since 2010s.
Only groups who are insular communities like hasids, Mormons, certain Muslims.
Pedophilia rans rampant in these communities too…
Idiocracy was a documentary
I do, but I also acknowledge that I may be wrong, and that the parents are free to make their own choices.
Politics, economics and war are all hard to predict for long term, but just on the count of climate change kids born today are screwed.
More grist for the mill.
I am envious of people being born today. Barring advances in medicine that are uncertain to come in time, they’re going to see a lot more of the future than I am.
Sure, there might be rough patches in the timeline ahead. There have been rough patches in the timeline behind us, too. I don’t feel sad for people born right before World War I, for example.
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I used to.
Kids have never been something I never saw myself having. I have nephews and nieces and I used to worry about them.
They’ve grown up a bit and the kids are actually doing alright. In my family they are all loved and they’re well behaved kids.
They’re getting proper diagnoses and treatment for their adhd that my brothers and I probably should have gotten as kids. Instead we all got countless detentions and suspensions in school.
School these days is kind of a mess, but my nieces and nephews all have parents who step in and help. The biggest thing for one who was getting bullied was switching schools, it was a total 180 in his life after leaving that environment.
The omnipresent tech and AI stuff is a mess too. I think having involved and caring parents helps a lot with that. It’s harder to fall into the traps when you have good examples in life. Hopefully that keeps up.
As for money/job prospects that was a huge concern when I was coming of age too. 2008 fucked everything up. This too shall pass the youth job market has always been tough for the last 25 years. They’ll figure it out with a bit of help. They’re not doomed here. As long as there are people there will be needs to fill.
I do worry about the climate. I don’t know how to help with that. I try to do good but it’s beyond my control to stop. All we can do is try to mitigate and adapt.
Yup.
I mean, I made a conscious decision not to have children, so…
People be fucking.
There were kids conceived and born during the Holocaust.
“Hey, baby. Wanna fight eugenics?”
