😢 AOKP was king. I miss all the extra silly features they packed in. You could make it look almost nothing like Android by the time you were done.
YES! I was talking with someone recently about this ROM. I couldn’t remember what it was called, but I had decked out my phone on a fully wild unicorn theme based on it lmao.
I’m gonna carry around my steam deck and add a USB camera module, a GPS module, and add some meshtastic radios modules, and I’m gonna daily drive it as the ultimate all-in-one device, and Mr. Google Pichai can’t stop me! xD
good idea however if you ever feel like needing a phone again… i have one word for you:GrapheneOS
Isn’t GrapheneOS just another android os?
Only for Google Pixels
I mean, if google is on track to ban sideloading, there’s not doubt they will also ban bootloader unlocking.
Though graphene is shopping for phone OEMs rn, hopefully there’ll be a graphenephone soonish.
real
holy crap this is so true. i miss twrp
AOSP
Android Open Source Project
look inside
not open source
mfw
You can still use AOSP to make your own phone, but you’ll just have to built your own apps too, since eventually, all of google play apps aren’t gonna work on degoogled Android.
Not a big deal, considering that FOSSIFY project offers all the basics you’d need for a degoogled phone: call app, messaging, contacts, calculator, calendar, gallery, etc. F-droid also has a good selection of apps, though most people, me included, will still need whatsapp one way or another. At least that thing doesn’t need any of Google’s “essential” apps.
you’ll just have to built your own apps too
We are well on our way.
I was confused before I made the switch. So many of the most useful kinds of apps weren’t maintained anymore by anyone on the Google Play store. I had this surreal feeling that the app ecosystem was getting worse every year.
And then I installed F-Droid and figured out where all of my favorite app developers went. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
so will linux foundation drop android using linux kernel?
i cant wait for mobile Linux to be ready, I will switch in a heartbeat.
I’ve been looking to switch as well… But it’s hard to find a supported device. Dammit, I want Mobian so bad…
honestly I just want the same install and use experience as fedora KDE gives me on my laptop. ive installed all kinds of goofy rice-esque stuff but the system itself has been entirely out of my way since install.
Sailfish exists: https://sailfishos.org/
ive looked at that, but its really more an issue of phones not using generic hardware and therefore needing to be entirely reverse-engineered before they can have all of their features used, and by the time thats done they’re too old.
Pinephone exists now, you can buy it today. It runs Linux.
Calls/SMS do work although are not 100% so if you absolutely need these to be reliable you could get a brick phone for like £15 to cover that and then use the Pinephone as a pocket computer. I used it as my only phone for a couple of years and it was mostly fine, now it doesn’t have a SIM in it and its perfect as a pocket PC.
Pinephone battery usage (with postmarketOS) is atrocious. I bought one and it’s been collecting dust in a drawer ever since the first 3-4 times the battery drained from 100 to 0 within 24 hours on stand-by. :( My fastest wasted 700ish EUR ever.
How so much? Mine was about £200 after delivery and import taxes. Still my most expensive phone but the best computer I have ever put in my pocket.
Shame that calls/SMS are not perfect, but I have since for a dumb phone for that so the SIM sits in that instead.
it’s been 3 years or so but I may have bought a pinephone pro because the simple one was out of stock? Plus convergence package, plus shipping, plus outrageous money transfer fees - German banks are basically thieves when it comes to international transfers outside the EU.
Permanently connect it to a power bank?
- great use case for a mobile device /s
- lithium ion batteries are really nothing to feel comfortable around
- wasting energy is wasting energy
So - no, it’s now expensive electronic scrap, sadly. While my shiftphone easily lasts 24 hours with regular use and 3+ days on standby.
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If calls/SMS are not 100% then it’s not a phone
That is where the dumb phone comes in which only deals with calls/SMS.
If you have to buy a dumb phone for your smartphone then you did not buy a smartphone, is my point
If you can’t even install software on it then its not an overly smartphone.
Follow pine64 news, they stopped producing new pinephones since they arent in demand enough
I thought that was just the pro?
the pro was discontinued but the base model is only going to be produced for another 2 years. Hopefully they release a next generation model but if they are toning down upper end models then I’m not convinced.
Mine has postmarketOS on it, probably should update sometime.
One thing I would like is decent offline maps with good performance, don’t even care of it supports GPS or not. Pinephone has no SIM in it these days and that sits in a CatB40.
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It wasn’t due to surplus, they said in the release that it was a didn’t sell enough units(the pro). And the current pinephone is only going to be produced another 2 or so years, they havent mentioned any plans that I saw of a model after that.
It won’t happen due to voice over lte.
Why is this a problem?
Voice over l t e is not standardized and the carriers on the I p to connect to their system. So every carrier has an encrypted blob that only works with whatever version of phone they want to sell. If you have a major phone like an iPhone or a pixel, then apple and Google work to make sure that those seemlessly download.But if you’re any other brand you’re kind of screwed. Even Samsung has issues since I can’t use the Play Store to distribute it in their own app.Store doesn’t have good support from the carriers. The carriers really push that only the phones are purchased from them work. Spokennoise, they also pushed it unsecured.Devices need to be wiped, including them voiceover Lte data.
Look at the issues with australian service right now , they are even trying to stop iphones from other countries from using it. Apple has a whole system to make sure that all phones work with the same voice over lte stuff following the bands match and auto download the blobs.
Wasn’t Ubuntu phone a thing?
I’ve been hearing about this for 10+ years now. I vaguely remember testing a prototype that could only load an os. That was it
it was almost a thing but the kickstarter failed (despite huge interest). Ubuntu touch is a thing but its not really suitable.
Ubuntu touch is a thing, But the only platform it’s running properly on is halium, which is basically an Android core and bootloader that virtualizes the OS.
It works, and it has pretty good battery life, but it’s not really Linux on the phone, they’re using Android drivers under the hood.
The real Linux distributions that exist that are running on metal don’t have all the drivers worked out yet for modem and VOLTE, But those are close, i’m not worried about that, But I am worried about is the average of 6 hours of battery life on a 3500 mah battery. Android has battery life down to a science. Those apps just become snapshots and disappear into the background and restore like nothing happened when you need them again.
I started diving into this one Android started showing their ass a couple of months ago. If you want to use hallium, You might be able to daily drive it if you don’t have high expectations, The guy I was following that tested it out so that helium / touch was so lockdown that he couldn’t even install unsanctioned apps from the terminal because the VM would brick itself.
I can deal with not running most phone apps, But I really don’t feel like moving from one lockdown OS to another just for the hell of it. If Google pulls this s*** I will get out at the first available stop.
Saw someone else mention sailfish! There is also PostmarketOS I’ve recently seen footage of it running on a OnePlus phone and it looks way more stable than I’d expected!!
Edit= apparently just 2 oneplus phones and sparse other phones are supported, and stability varies per device =/ you can check here to see if your phone’s supported!
Reminds me of old cell-phone service options. Free hours, rollover and prepay/pay-as-you-go/contractless etc.
Not sure how pricing/value actually compares, but it does seem like if you want a phone now for emergencies you’re going to get fleeced (also required data package). Unless maybe you buy a flip-phone or something. A fiber provider in my area even still charges $40 for a land-line (no idea if it’s VoIP).
you don’t have TrackPhone being sold at Walmart where you are?
In my country all you say is kinds the norm… wtf is up with telcos in wherever are you from?
wtf is up with telcos in wherever are you from?
Oh you know, they are given free reign because 🇺🇸
Internet pricing/speed isn’t great either.
Not sure how pricing/value actually compares, but it does seem like if you want a phone now for emergencies you’re going to get fleeced (also required data package).
What? You need data make calls now?
If you’re fine with buying and carrying around a flip-phone or something, no.
If you want the inactive smartphone you already have in your pocket to receive calls yes, because it will not work with the non-data SIM card. Even if you have 0 interest in data. EDIT: SIM compatibility might be part of that too, like how dual SIM adds another layer of bought-the-wrong-thing.
Similar to @jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works. I am sure better plans exist here (like another user pointed out), but aside from device type it may depend on what store you’re at or just how much research you’re willing to do into if certain options are still good.
My country has some of the best internet in the world now that I think of it… just didn’t realize none of that was that common elsewere, here you can go to a corner store, as in they sell groceries, and buy a sim card for 1usd, then activate it, and put money on it with cash at that same grocery store, or pay fully online, not so long ago, you didn’t even needed an ID to activate those.
I am very happy on GrapheneOS. Even in terms of flashing it was much nicer experience than what you had to go through back in the days
It’s happening, I’m finally getting nostalgic from tech memes. The days on xda forums and IRC. Thankfully IRC is still alive. Xda seems to be dying to telegram and Google’s enshittification
Mmm yes incomplete ROMs with a ton of self-congratulatory posting
ROMS have (almost) always been incomplete works. They have always been sideprojects, by tech enthusiasts that wanted to learn. They just happen to share those projects to any who would be interested, with no warranty.
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so apple fixed the battery life thing? i knew macbooks have insane battery life, but i thought iphones still couldn’t do 2 days which i think is the line between shitty and ok. anyway samsungs could never and still can’t do more than 2 days in my hands, but I’ve been amazed that my p8p with graphene can easily get 4 days (I’m a pretty light user).
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Lmao, yeah, batteries have improved quite substantially for all phones in the last 14 years. Unless you want removable batteries, then everything is worse now.
I am in dire need of a true Linux Phone
Bring back the Nokia N900!
A nice sentiment but in reality the n900 and n9 were both too slow to use. That’s the first thing that would have to be fixed.
I did alright with mine. I figure a modern one would have modern hardware in it. People forget how dire the performance on the first couple of iPhone generations was, too. The N900’s contemporary was the iPhone 3GS, I think, which was an objectively terrible device in every metric except sales.
Oh, and the N900’s inbuilt phone dialer was also kind of ass. But I found its performance more than acceptable, and it could run full fat Firefox including the Flash plugin, which was still a big deal at the time, whereas its competitors could barely render a web page.
The 3GS was fine for me and much more response and useful than my previous phone, which happened to ba a Nokia N75.
I developed early web apps (and frontends for native apps) for iPhone and Android around the time the Nexus One launched. If you spent any time using both, the iPhone was a better phone even though the hardware specs didn’t suggest it, I used the 3GS until upgrading to the iPhone 5S. My wife was on an earlier schedule and went 3G, 4, 5C, and we still play old games on her 5C around Halloween with our kid now 12 years later.
Hmm I didn’t use early (or later) iphones, so idk. In that era I had a Nokia N63 (sort of a Blackberry knockoff) which was really nice. I had an N900 but rarely used it. Later I got an N9 and used it mostly because my N63 crapped out. But the N9 was also near unusable. I finally broke down and got an Android phone in 2017 or so (Moto G4, cheap and obsolete even then) and it was lightning fast by comparison.
The phone running FuriOS seems neat.
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I would eat their foot for this
I just like eating feet
Monoco would too! Owowowow
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Really gotta get rid of those.
Most relatable meme in a while, feels weird to feel so much nostalgia for an Operating system
same
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Yes, Titanium Backup was great, but have you also tried Helium? Also where’s Odin3?
I recognise almost all of picture one, but it’s been a while since I used them, I should upgrade again. Is it really that much pain now?
I’m glad I chose iPhone instead!
