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I remember playing Uplink some years ago and buying the in-game IRC client for fun. MOTD said the server is long dead and I wasted that run’s money.
I met my wife on IRC.
I also met your wife on IRC. Nice person, good choice. I’d say neither of you are the reacher in your relationship. Well done.
This sounds like a compliment, but I sincerely am not 100% sure.
Therefore, I choose to interpret as one. Thank you!
It was meant as one. :) Just trying to turn around some harass-y and insulting comments I’ve seen around and tried to make it somewhat funny.
Then I shall reiterate, thank you! I am rather fond of her.
IRC - I Recall Correctly. Yup. I’m sure that’s what it was. No relation to ICQ.
20 years ago I was in college, it was earlyish days of piracy and the net admin had locked down all p2p protocols. I actually used irc bots to cruise file servers and request downloads. Not sure what protocol they were using for file transfer over mIRC but I got a lot of music that way. Netflix was also handy as a DVD burning service but that’s another topic.
Back in the day I used direct connect, we had 100mbit internet (at my university), that was extremely fast back in the day.
it was probably DCC
DC++ was what we used at RIT that one year I went there. Cable internet first showed up near me in 2003 or so. I graduated high school in 2005 and cable was fairly ubiquitous, but still in its infancy compared to now. Getting to college and downloading at like 25MB/s blew my mind, versus what was essentially just Kazaa, Morpheus, and Limewire before that. It also probably had a direct impact on my failing to go to classes too, as I had what was essentially unfettered access to any show or movie I wanted almost instantly.
Good times, wouldn’t change it for the world.
Anyone from 28 and above will be easly called a boomer by 14 years old 😂 as a xenial here I used to feel weird maybe slightly offended…but I decided to enjoy it and keep my self entertained by dumb online fuedes and the alleged generational online wars that comes with…so yeah Long live the IRC
Anyone from 28 and above will be easly called a boomer by 14 years old
I’m sure there’s some kind of meme to describe this. Or maybe they’re all TikTok dances now, idk.
All I know is that the damned kids today need to get off my lawn.
What exactly makes discord more like irc?
my guess is they mean the caliber of user / conversation, not the features of the platforms themselves
Seconded, it’s not even remotely similar
Yeah, obviously, maybe they mean its a bunch of idle users saying nothing nowadays because there’s so many “servers” now.
IRC was basically a persistent online text chat. You could have a community and because everyone accessed the internet via computers, people would leave their IRC client open and just have this chat server with different rooms running in the background.
You could jump in and see what was happening. Today, discord serves the same function, but instead of having a client always connected, it uses an app that can push notifications to the user.
The other big difference was that IRC was open, so you had many clients that could connect to servers, and they were available for many different platforms. Hell for a while I had an irc Client on my T-Mobile sidekick that used the old 2g pager network for data.
Discord added a lot of quality of life features like easy attachments , images etc , but that comes at the cost of a closed network run by 1 company.
Discord is so ideal for having a federalized decentralized platform, with a main customizable client to connect to servers, but it seems no one has built a good enough clone yet that fills the server swapping role and being open source well enough yet
You have no clue about what a privacy nightmare that concept is. Of course, the alternative is that everyone is anonymous like Lemmy. But it would be, as discord already is, a public and traceable record of accounts linked to people that can be easily exposed if a central auth point of failure gets compromised. To preserve privacy, persist chats, be decentralized, secure. It’s almost too much. Something’s got to give.
Matrix tries to be that but it’s not polished, and some architectural decisions might mean that it will never be.
Discord is already a privacy nightmare. I’d much rather a privacy nightmare controlled by the people instead of faceless corporations.
What would make it any less private than lemmy, though?
Hey friend, I’m people, I’ve got a face, and I’m no corporation. Can I control your privacy? I promise I’ll be good ^^
A corporation I know is selling my data vs a person who might be. Obvious choice?
Sorry, I shouldn’t be so obtuse on the internet. The point is that corporations in general are not exactly non-people. They are a groups of people. The greed, selfishness, choices to violate privacy, these are all of people, granted in conjunction with the machine of late-capitalism. But there is always this false assumption that just because it’s “people” and not a “corporation”, it’s inherently better, or for the benefit of all people. Your choice isn’t between a group of people and some faceless entity, your choice is between different groups of people.
The same people who make up the faceless corporations will participate in your “owned by the people” system. Just look at the US government, supposedly “by the people and for the people”, which controls/regulates corporations. Where there is power there is politics and where there is politics there is the accumulation of power. You have to do more to manage the accumulation of power that oppresses than just say “oh just let all the people own the system”.
Discord shouldn’t have the expectation of being private anyway.
It should be two systems: decentralized chatrooms with little guarantee of privacy (if not being publically searchable), with a ‘private chat’ button to farm out to some separate E2E app when it matters.
Honestly one of my biggest gripes about Discord is that so much info is ‘locked way’ from being search engine accessible. If a publicly scrapable alternative caught on, that would make my day.
Just use irc with a web client like irccloud or mibbit, it’s basically discord, unless you want the spyware that tells everyone what game/program you’re running.
imo discord is just an online chatbox that segregates people into “servers” based on a subject of interest (a game or whatever). This is much like irc where you have servers dedicated to gaming (quakenet) or software.
What makes discord actually stand out are the tools that allow people to create a server quickly. With irc, your are literally spinning up a server like you are running a webserver. You need to know what you’re doing. Discord is allowing game developers to integrate it into their games and it has voice chat built on. You could argue about the possibility of integrating irc in your game, but discord is all about convenience. Api, moderation tools uniform across the entire platform, single point of entry. IRC is none of that, but efforts are made and worth exploring.
That’s not what I meant, and probably also not what the OP meant. Something is suddenly different for discord to feel like irc, but it’s not articulated.
Besides, irc is anything but persistent. If you disconnect, your chats are gone, unless you logged the chat. If you reconnect, you don’t catch up on what was said when you were offline, unless you use a bouncer like znc with history (which is also limited to the last x number of lines). John Doe sure as heck doesn’t even know what a bouncer is.
Im old as hell, what tf is IRC?
Gen X Discord
“Internet relay chat” it was the first major messaging protocol on the Internet. You would register an IRC number that was unique to you, and join one of the many different chat channels that anyone could create. The name of the chat would be what the intended topic of discussion was supposed to be, and show you how many people were in the room. Often times completely unmoderated, with a few select users having the rights to ban people if they happen to be in the chat at the time.
It was a wild time.
So that is what IRC is. I always just called it chat.
Who’s Gandalf, precious?
I refuse to believe someone has that SA emote hasn’t heard of irc
I’ve seen kids with Nirvana t-shirts who knew nothing about the band. This might be similar.
You’re probably right on there, I can’t imagine how kids perceive this world now, and yet still, I do see the odd nirvana shirt among them.
I downloaded my first 3 songs from IRC with MIRC. Took all night to download but man was I happy the next morning.
It’s like ICQ
Damn, forgot about that flower logo, but it’s there now. So many chat clients back in the day. I guess there’s plenty now, but it’s just nuts how they’ve all pretty much disappeared and been replaced.
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I downloaded my first “porn” image that I got grounded over from something that predated mIRC but I can’t remember exactly what it was, I ended up using mIRC and then ICQ a lot years later. Like a dumbass once the picture I got finally downloaded, I printed it because I wanted to delete it off the computer. Then I got really into the MUD I was playing at the time, gemstones III, and forgot the picture on the printer. I think it was just a sexy picture of Reece Witherspoon but my parents were the kind that thought I was a devil worshipper since I liked to play DnD and these satanic text games that don’t make any sense.
Reminds me of waiting for a porn image to load one row of pixels at a time on dial up. Teenage boys desperate for porn lol!
Progressive JPEG was a major advance, as one saw a low-resolution image that gradually became higher resolution, had some idea as to the contents of the lower half of the image prior to waiting for half of the data involved to be transferred.
Hilarious, cool story bro
IRC came out in 1988, so an Internet chat service that predates it must have been exceptionally early.
It was just what I used before mIRC, it may very well have been IRC, I just don’t remember what the app was. This would have been in 90-91
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_(software)
talk (software)
talk is a Unix text chat program, originally allowing messaging only between the users logged on to one multi-user computer—but later extended to allow chat to users on other systems.
Although largely superseded by IRC and other modern systems, it is still included with most Unix-like systems today, including Linux,[1] BSD systems[2] and macOS.[3]
No Wikipedia page, but there’s also PHONE:
https://marc.vos.net/books/vms/help/phone/
Invokes the OpenVMS Phone utility (PHONE). The Phone utility is designed to simulate some of the features of actual telephone communications. You can use the Phone utility to communicate with other users on your system or with any other system connected to your system by DECnet for OpenVMS. To invoke the Phone utility, enter the PHONE command at the DCL prompt and press RETURN.
I’ve used both on VMS.
idk if discord pushes server creation or if people are just real eager to moderate a space, but i cannot stand that seemingly every single one of my discord contacts has their own server with like 5-10 people, and that’s the only way they ever wanna chat.
like “yeah let’s play helldivers, pop in my discord so you can also listen to 3 people you don’t know who aren’t playing.”
maybe i’m just old.
The issue with the friend group on discord is that if you start a call it starts ringing everyone, even people who are obviously offline (at least thats my experience, though I haven’t used that feature in about a year). That’s why it ends up everyone having their own server
Uhh it doesn’t ring everyone. You just join a voice channel and just ping anyone you want on DM or in a text channel.
Isn’t the voice channel in the server?
It’s not a server, the thing I’m talking about is the group chat feature https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/223657667-Group-Chat-and-Calls
That’s why I’m saying everyone makes a server, because the group chat feature is 90% useless
Oof, mea culpa. I thought you were talking about the server calls. Yeah, the group chat is mostly used for impromptu discussion on my part. Like when making an ad hoc call to discuss something that shouldn’t be shown on the server.
No worries, it’s such a niche feature I didn’t even remember the official name of it lol
It’s been a good 3rd place replacement for me. I’ve made so many new offline friends through discord. At first I just play online games with voice on, and then I met some party who enjoyed playing with me and they invited me to their discord and so on.
Some friend group has been going strong for 10 years now.
