Wonder how he felt about the Covenant.
  • PattyMcB@lemmy.worldEnglish
    252·
    3 个月前

    I knew religion was a joke. Anyone who still refuses to admit it is a total moron

    • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      3 个月前

      Except there are still 1.4 BILLION catholics in the world, and that’s just catholicism.

      We may not like it, we may not get anything from it, but we should very much be concerned with what happens in the world of organized religion and what it’s representing because 3/4 of the world still believe in some kind of religion.

  • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.worldEnglish
    986·
    3 个月前

    The kid spread religion online. God killed him for it. Pope makes him a saint. God facepalms and says “How many more kids do I have to kill to show you that you should stop wasting time in church and just be a good person”.

    • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
      412·
      3 个月前

      Then that god stops existing because there’s no evidence for a god which acts like that

      • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.worldEnglish
        133·
        3 个月前

        There’s no evidence for God period, so your “because” doesn’t support your statement. Of course you also don’t seem to understand basic logic. The lack of evidence never “proves” anything. The presence of evidence “may” prove things.

        • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
          411·
          3 个月前

          There is no evidence for the god you believe in, you are correct.

              • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.worldEnglish
                4·
                3 个月前

                Interesting. None of that is evidence that God exists. Without a doubt, someone going by the name Jesus (or something like it lost in translation) existed. And a religion was founded based on him. Lots of things happened. People wrote down a lot of things. But those people all had a bias. The vast majority were trying to build a religion. So without a doubt, they embellished and picked the “witness” accounts that supported what they wanted to say.

                As for the 3 famous figures mentioned at the start. The same is true. Historians often say that we don’t know the real truth, just what was written.

                As for the new testament. It was created by commitee. They hand picked stories and such that created the picture they wanted to present. And plenty of religious historians have pointed out that Christianity borrowed concepts and stories that worked well from previous religions.

                So all that proves is that a human being going by the name Jesus existed and had a very influential life. It proves nothing of God.

              • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.todayEnglish
                6·
                3 个月前

                My man, following your logic this means that Buddhism is real because Siddhartha Gautama, Islam is real because the prophet Muhammad, and Mormonism is real because Joseph Smith’s lying ass. Just because a historical figure claims there’s a god does not mean that it’s actual evidence that a god exists.

                • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
                  14·
                  3 个月前

                  Weigh it up. Mohammed was lying because he wanted more wives and political power. Joseph Smith was the same. Jesus got merked for his teachings and so did his followers for the first three hundred years.

      • Zozano@aussie.zoneEnglish
        101·
        3 个月前

        Plenty of evidence for god killing whoever the fuck he wants because he feels like it.

        Source: the bible

        • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
          113·
          3 个月前

          Okay, and? God creates, He can destroy what He made as well.

          • Zozano@aussie.zoneEnglish
            9·
            3 个月前

            You moved the goalposts lol.

            You said “there’s no basis for that” I countered with “yes there is” You countered “so”

            So, you’re wrong. Also,

            My partner and I made our son.

            We now have a moral basis for killing him whenever we feel like it.

            • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
              115·
              3 个月前

              No, you’re not reading the whole message. What I was referring to was “you should stop wasting time in church and just be a good person”

              My partner and I made our son.

              No you didn’t. God gave you a son.

              • Zozano@aussie.zoneEnglish
                8·
                3 个月前

                Yes, I know what you were referring to, I know how nested comments work.

                Now, what I was referring to was:

                there’s no evidence for a god which acts like that

                Now, you want to claim that God would not kill people for not going to church.

                Cool, but even if he DID. It STILL wouldn’t be on the top 10 most fucked up things which HIS OWN BOOK says he did, or has plans to do. Not even including the moral imperative to kill whoever the fuck he wants because ‘he created them’ (what even is this argument…)

                But i digress;

                God gave you a son.

                No, bro, I’m almost certain I was the one who got my partner pregnant.

                My partner and I did make our son lol, ive got DNA evidence.

                If you want to claim God gave me a son, then you’ll first have to convince me God exists.

                Can you do that?

                • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
                  110·
                  3 个月前

                  God wouldn’t kill people for going to church. That’s what I said.

                  wouldn’t be on the top 10 most fucked up things which HIS OWN BOOK says he did,

                  Yeah because such a list would be empty

                  My partner and I did make our son lol, ive got DNA evidence.

                  So you drew out the schematics? decided what hair to put where? Pieced each bone into it’s place? Set the colour of his eyes? Drew out his fingerprints? Laid down each muscle and wired each nerve?

                  Can you do that?

                  Can you be convinced? What evidence would you expect to have to convince you? Some people cannot be convinced that the earth is round, that climate change is real, evolution is a real observable process of nature or that vaccines are safe and effective.

    • rozodru@piefed.socialEnglish
      1·
      3 个月前

      so basically the kid was Lorgar? Hopefully a blonde haired kid didn’t show up and burn the Lorgar kids home town.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.caEnglish
    12·
    3 个月前

    God, the Prime Mover, has existed even before the beginning. When God thought “Let there be light” is when that tiny little particle exploded and it became the Big Bang that we are all familiar with. Of course, I could be wrong, but I have faith in it.

  • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
    1·
    3 个月前

    How is this strange? It was going to happen eventually and it will continue to happen

  • atzanteol@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    58·
    3 个月前

    Candidates for sainthood require two distinct miracles attributed to them: Acutis was first beatified in 2020 after a Brazilian boy with a pancreatic defect was cured, following his mother’s prayers to Acutis to help her son. The second miracle involves the reported healing of a Costa Rican girl who suffered a serious head injury after falling off her bike in Florence: her mother prayed for the girl’s recovery at Acutis’ tomb in Assisi, and her daughter made a full recovery.

    Quite, uh, remarkable “miracles”.

      • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
        8·
        3 个月前

        Nah, basically, the logic is that since he allegedly healed her, that he is apparently alive in heaven and no longer in purgatory. Thus becoming a saint as his salvation has been “proven”

        • Opisek@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          3 个月前

          A blind study should be performed for a proper empirical proof. Sample size of two is not going to cut it either. Pump those numbers up to reach statistical significance.

        • Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.clubEnglish
          21·
          3 个月前

          Feels like we could get two miracles attributed to that famous painter, just for shit & giggles, having a Saint Hitler would be funny (if not for the distress caused to the survivors). Other satins have a much lower kill ratios (up to a few thousand only??).

          (And ofc /s, choosing saints is a completely political process addressing Church’s needs.)

    • DarkCloud@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23·
      3 个月前

      I feel like maybe Acurtis 360 no scoped that girl off the bike, then came back in as a healer and brought her back to full health.

      …kind of cheating.

    • jwt@programming.devEnglish
      12·
      3 个月前

      According to Carlin’s theory, 4 prayers to Joe Pesci (PBUH) should suffice for sainthood.

      Joe Pesci: patron saint of smashing things with a baseball bat.

    • ChanchoManco@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      3 个月前

      So people were praying to random dead people? How does that work? Doesn’t make more sense to thanks the medics that treated those kids?

  • Simulation6@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    6·
    3 个月前

    I don’t know anything about the dead guy. Is this deserved recognition or a shameless attention grab by a no longer relevant institution?

  • Eager Eagle@lemmy.worldEnglish
    69·
    3 个月前

    if a bishop watched me code I could be the first programmer saint. There are times only god knows how my software works. Or not, in case cursing disqualifies candidates.

    • kennedy@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
      12·
      3 个月前

      cant remember where i saw it but young people are joining less and less i guess its their way of trying to connect to the “youths”. Its such a spectacle.

    • Nangijala@feddit.dkEnglish
      13·
      3 个月前

      They made merch, omfg 🤣 I despise this shit.

      Also:

      Acutis also created a popular website documenting miracles as a means of spreading the Catholic message, which is what led to the nickname of “God’s influencer.”

      I can’t.🥲