“By saying ‘Free Palestine,’ you’re not admitting what you really think,” said Seinfeld, who publicly embraces his Jewish heritage and has pushed back against critics of Israel.
“Just say you don’t like Jews,” he said in reference to the movement, before comparing its supporters to members of the KKK.
In that spirit, Jerry, maybe you should say what YOU really think. You’re a genocide apologist. Embrace it, instead of putting words in other peoples mouths.
Calling critics of a state and a polity racists is some high level bullshit
Did you criticise the Nazis? Pretty sure that means you hate all modern day Germans /s
Probably he also doesn’t like black people.
If true, that would be grotesquely funny
Nah, just have him say what he thinks about Palestinians and muslims. The rest follows.
Jerry Seinfeld has always been a pompous piece of shit. Fuck him and his unfunny horsefaced “comedy”.
Oh, and he fucked a teenager at the height of his show. Release the files.
This is the truth. Once he got money, he turned into the asshole he was always wanted to be and oh, what an asshole he’s blossomed into.
Now he’s added piece of shit who likes genocide AND is entirely brain damaged about what the KKK does and has done.
Pretty solid work to show that you’re a piece of shit, like murder and have zero clue about the KKK all in one go.
If this country is going up in flames, can we put the boomers on the front line? They love to talk a big game, let them live up to their own hype.
Boomers pulled the ladder from us, and ran their mouths about it. Absolutely send them in first.
No one watches Seinfeld for Seinfeld.
Same effect with King of Queens.
Exactly. We watch them both for Jerry Stiller.
Larry David is the genius behind the show.
I only watched that show for Jason Alexander. Although Duckman was his much better work.
Oh look everyone. It’s the “airline food” guy who peaked in the 90s. He has a political opinion.
Jerry Seinfeld is a washed up comedian, who cares what his opinions on international geopolitics is???
Man now I can’t watch Seinfeld anymore? Why people got to do this?
Because some people are jerks who don’t want better people to enjoy life. Especially out of touch billionaires like Seinfeld.
You can watch it, it’s even a little better than Family Guy later seasons.
Yeah you can, just remember Larry David and the other writers who actually made it good.
Edit: and the cast! So many iconic performances.
He’s a comedian. Is this a joke? How can someone honestly think this?
Delusional billionaire with a persecution complex.
I actually think you hit the nail on the head with persecution complex. He likely grew up experiencing antisemitism, I know I did and I’m younger than him. But he became incredibly privileged. Since being persecuted is core to his younger identity, he doubles down on the idea that he is persecuted. I see this frequently with people that are newly rich, they can’t accept their new privilege as a shift in their identity, so they double down on an old identity.
It’s the same issue with Dave Chappelle, who used to be more conscious of -isms, but is dishonest about any other bigotry but anti-black bigotry since he became ultra wealthy. He needs to focus on anti-blackness over all else because if he doesn’t he just becomes another privileged dude in a broken system (in his mind). It’s about protecting your self image of a victim after becoming one of the privileged.
Also Seinfeld is a groomer creep.
I will say this and it is not in an anti-jewish way, I myself have Jewish roots.
But the Jewish culture, religion, whatever the hell you want to call it, has persecution baked into the very identity.
I’m not going to sit here and be callous, and try to deny that Jewish people have suffered. But most of the persecution complex is based on a history which is complete mythology, and not in alignment with any observable reality.
“The KKK is a little better than Free Palestine. The crisp white robes? The anonymity? They’re basically racist laundry!”
funky slap bass
Who?
Of course Jerry of course. Israel is still a terrorist state. Bye.
a NAZI terrorist state.
KKK is not.
This is what happens when his little sitcom has been out of syndication for nearly three decades. Starts going crazy.
Says guy who never had to deal with the KKK.
Well, the KKK has never burned a cross on his lawn but the Free Palestine movement made him feel bad.
This really calls attention to his overdeveloped sense of victimhood.
He needs another reason to whinge about being canceled.
Weirdly, it is actually true that both the KKK and Hamas have bought support in their communities by doing good public works for people. It’s not what they are best known for, but I don’t think shadow organizations survive for long without building some support somehow.
Not really that weird? Basically every organization does this or is immediately unsuccessful. The only exception is companies under a government that’s stable enough to carry water for them.
This doesn’t mean that the organizations are a net benefit.
their “shadow support” that you can’t figure out is hate. Usually hate from religion. KKK are ALL christians, and use their religion to justify their hate. Hamas are ALL muslims, and use their religion to justify their hate. Israelis are ALL jews, and use their religion to justify their hate.
Religions openly hate each other. They all have lived under the motto: There can only be one god(s), only one of us can be right. (even though some lie about that, too). They fight religious wars that last for thousands of years, and that’s how they look at you. A pawn so small that you can’t ever fit into a 1/10th of their next thousand year plan.
That damn people’s front of Judea! Bunch of mindless zealots. Not like us in the Judea’s Peoples front!
We didn’t need two paragraphs to tell us religion has been divisive throughout history. However let’s not oversimplify. The black people terrorized by the KKK were also Christians. Fateh were also Muslims so Hamas didn’t steal their popular support just by being the right religion. Religion is a thing. Not the one and only thing going on.
Jerry had more worthwhile things to say back when he had a show about nothing.
In retrospect, Seinfeld was a very dark show. Somewhere on YouTube there is an insightful little video essay about how the first few seasons of the show are basically the story of how Elaine, a perfectly decent person, gets drawn into their little circle and over time adopts their awful selfishness and sociopathic behavior to try to fit in. How most of the problems of the show are caused by their selfishness and dishonesty, and often involve significant harm coming to someone else, and they don’t care.
I can’t even remember which comedian it is, but someone had a bit about how the darkest joke he ever heard was a Seinfeld bit about being at the movie theater and just throwing his drink on the ground at the end for someone else to clean up. Like it’s a small thing, but the guy talking about it was genuinely alarmed by the depth of how far he genuinely just doesn’t give a fuck and doesn’t mind if you know it.
Here you go on that essay I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ77Qn53xhw
Yep, I’m pretty sure that’s the one. Thank
T1J?
Great TV essays.
Let’s see, so we have
Free Palestine, a group that wants to stop the genocide and promote the freedom of Palestinians being murdered through no result of their own actions beyond simply existing.
The KKK, a group who expressly want to genocide and oppress the freedom of anyone non-white for just simply existing.
Jerry, you’re telling on yourself here a bit
I mean, he spent decades trying to rehabilitate his pal Kramer after he melted down and shouted the n-word at members of his audience.
Now he’s saying he’s okay with genocide as long as the victims are brown or the wrong religion and they have real estate he’d like.
Seems like he’s consistent.
The Michael Richards incident was a literal one time event, albeit a terrible one. There were zero instances before and zero instances after that suggest Richards is racist. Everything since then Michaels has done suggests he’s exceedingly remorseful over it.
I am not excusing it in the least, but I don’t think it’s even close to fair to compare him to someone currently supporting the genocide in Palestine.
So they both suck. Thanks for making my point for me.
Ya, in the way that both my neighbor and Stalin sucked.
That you, Jerry? Give it up. Kramer was never funny.
I’m not saying Richards was funny, I’m saying there is a difference on the baddie scale between someone who vocally and current supports genocide and someone who said something racist once twenty years ago.
Nuance, man. Some people just can’t compare qualitatively and can’t understand nuance.
Like the stein voters who couldn’t do harm reduction and just threw their votes in the chipper.
You don’t really throw a racial slur “just one time”; but when you try to not use it in public, one slip up happens.
his mind kinda broke when spoke at DARTHMOUTH, when nobody laughed at his joke.
Should have piped-in a laugh track.
The KKK claims the Jews are doing a white genocide. Are you a genocide denier if you don’t believe the claims of the KKK?
So you’re saying the only people claiming theres a genocide are Hamas?
Ahh okay, zionazi.
No I wasn’t saying you’re like Hamas. I’m saying you’re like the KKK LOL.
Pay attention!
If anything good has come of this Israel-Palestine conflict thing, it has been exposing idiots.
But the infestation is bad, so widespread. It’s like moving your fridge and there are thousands of roaches under it.
I mean I’d prefer people not being idiots. But yeah
Specifically pretend-progressive idiots, for whom progess is great when it’s for their approved groups.
Idk, I never would have learned about all the “nuances” within the far right about this issue if not for what happened to Charlie Kirk. It’s not just a pretend-progressive idiot thing. Idiots across the political spectrum have done some very interesting mental gymnastics over this conflict.
Charlie Kirk made some clearly antisemitic statements during his career, but he also fully supported Israel in this conflict. That is fucking dumb, but also sounds pretty on point considering Trump supports Israel in this conflict, yet refused to admonish his neo nazi supporters who were caught on camera during rallies doing sieg heils before his first term. Or his supports that marched with torches chanting “Jews will not replace us.” Not to mention some dude on Ketamine who hopped on stage during his second inauguration to do a few more sieg heils just to really rub it in.
Apparently the shooter was a fan of Nick Fuentes. Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk bc he believed he was “too moderate” in his far right views. Ok…
Nick Fuentes is apparently a Holocaust denier and has called for the death of jews in a holy war. He is very upfront and honest about his antisemitism. I guess this makes Fuentes the kind of guy Jerry Seinfeld apparently prefers as opposed to anyone who might otherwise just simply disagree with him about Palestine.
Nick Fuentes also called Charlie Kirk a hypocrite for claiming to be a Christian while supporting genocide and murder of hundreds of people on a daily basis.
I can’t argue with him on that particular statement. However, it also seems just a bit hypocritical to be an antisemite calling for the death of jews, while claiming to worship a jew who sacrificed himself for the sins of the world, and only asked in return that you love your God as the creator of all things and love your neighbor as yourself.
That’s a nice summary of some of the mental gymnastics going on!
I always found weird the position some far right people take that
- The Nazis didn’t genocide the Jews
- The Jews should be genocided
Why bother defending 1 if you believe 2?
Probably bc if you claim 1 didn’t really happen, it makes it a lot easier to downplay all the steps that had to happen to reach 2. That way when somebody calls you out for starting down that same road again, you can claim they’re trying to make a big deal out of nothing. Once it’s just normal for one group to be treated as if they’re deserving of less than any other human, nothing is really a big deal.
It’s not like one day there was no genocide, everything was peachy, then suddenly 6 million people were gone. It was a long road that began with normalizing attitudes, then legalizing discrimination, and eventually stripping away an entire group’s perceived humanity along with their rights.
I know some people claim they believe empathy is a made up new age concept, but it’s actually a tool humans have relied on for millions of years, even before they had a name for it. It’s that part of you that says this feels wrong. That feeling should drive you to act, or at least say something because you can recognize how it would feel if it was happening to me instead of them.
It’s can be ignored, but it’s what’s supposed to keep this from happening over and over again, unless individuals within a broader dominant group are allowed to normalize the idea that we’re us and that other group is them, so just ignore that feeling. Eventually this normalizes the narrative they are a danger to us. Inevitably it becomes anyone who doesn’t see that we had no other choice but to do what we did, just doesn’t understand or is refusing to acknowledge what they are really like. They’re not like us. Except in all the ways that they are.
I could understand if 1 was the public position while 2 was the one you speak only among like-minded folk. Then 1 serves as something that makes nazism and other far right ideologies more palatable. Is it the case for Nick Fuentes? I don’t know enough about him.
I don’t know much about Nick Fuentes either, other than what I already said (and that thing with that lady knocking on his door and him tazing her), but I don’t think 2 has to be the ultimate goal to believe one. That’s just where stripping away humanity (regardless of original intention) can always lead.
Like individuals have their own experiences and biases that lead them to beliefs, but when the bias of individuals starts being turned into policy and law, it means that a larger group is now helping to carry out those actions against others.
Think about it like joining the army and being sent to a war even if you don’t agree with your reasons for being there. There are some people that join the army bc they want to fight and kill, but I’ve known a lot of genuinely good people that joined the army at 18 bc they felt like that was their only option at the time, or bc they really thought they could help people by joining.
Not everyone that joins even sees combat, but some people are haunted by the things they end up having to do to complete the orders they’re given during combat. Even if its justified or they believe it was necessary to protect themselves.
Once you have a policy or command in place, you’ve gone from whatever the beliefs of a few people might have been, based on their own interactions and experiences, passed on to people below them in the chain of command being given as orders and carried out.
That’s usually how genocide works. The individuals creating the policy, giving the orders, or spreading propaganda aren’t usually the ones getting their own hands dirty by killing large numbers of people. That disconnect is usually what allows personal beliefs to turn into atrocities.
Ex: Stephen Miller is obviously a complete piece of shit. He can get on TV and spout a bunch of hateful propaganda, but would his lame ass ever be out physically detaining people? Hell no.
Yet he feels comfortable being the one to dramatically scream about needing higher quotas and threaten anyone that questions his policies (and even in his case, I suspect his biggest motivation is the money to be made off of this operation moreso than any actual strong ideology).
Seinfeld is a known conservative. Has never been known as a progressive.
His whole show is basically about an arsehole and that character is him.
Also “dated” a 17 year old.
