Oh, suddenly it’s not safe for everyone when one of their own gets killed…
It’s not safe partly because this treasonous little troll hasn’t kept her mouth shut for the past dacade.
That cunt gives Sasquatches a bad name.
Anyone saying they agree with the idea shouldn’t be. It won’t turn out how you imagine if it actually comes to pass under this admin.
Awesome, let me know when the estate sale starts.
Yeah… because of you…
I hate to say it, but I agree with mtg here. Cascasdia now!
I don’t think that’s such a bad idea. The richest states are blue, the poorest states are red. The entire country is a failed state already, might be good to start with a clean slate. And doing that without the need of a bloody revolution sounds good to me.
The richest states are blue, the poorest states are red.
But the richest parts of the bluest states are bankrolling this administration. California’s Silicon Valley is awash in fascism. New York’s Staten Island has an enormous base of Trump support. Washington’s Amazon, Microsoft, and Beoing C-levels are all in the tank for this administration.
Also, there are plenty of wealthy red states - Texas, Florida, Ohio, and Georgia are all in the top 10 by GDP. There are plenty of poor communities in these big red states that are disproportionately liberal.
There are plenty of purple states that can’t be divided by trivially. What do you do with a Pennsylvania or Virginia or Wisconsin, with a divided government and regular partisan swing?
The entire country is a failed state already, might be good to start with a clean slate
This wouldn’t be any kind of clean slate. Everyone would still be carrying their political baggage with them.
And much of the economy of these states is interdependent. Water rights from the Mississippi and Colorado run through divided turf. California and New York both need access to ports along the Gulf Coast to operate solvently. “Fly Over” states like Iowa and Nebraska produce giant food surpluses. We still need all our transcontinental rail networks, highways, and airlines to function as state level economies.
This isn’t a baby you can just split down the middle
So what alternatives would you suggest? All out civil war, or nuclear war with China or something?
Or just do nothing. Huff through it like we’ve been doing for the last 250 years.
That’s far more likely than any radical geopolitical reorganization. Nobody in the US government with enough authority to affect a real secessionist movement actually wants a secessionist movement to exist. They all think they’ve got the next bite at the White House apple.
Hell, even in the OG Civil War, the first thing the Confederates did was march on Washington. The CSA never intended to be permanently divided. They were going to conquer and subjugate the north just as they’d subjugated Florida and Cuba and Texas and California in decades prior. The momentum among nations has always been consolidation. We only see break ups - like in the Balkins - when the central leadership of the domestic government is decapitated and a foreign country needs to divide in order to conquer.
nuclear war with China
Everyone wants to wave their fists at China. Nobody actually wants to stand up in that fight.
Douglas MacArthur learned that lesson far too well for any modern military leadership to seriously want to repeat it.
Doing nothing really helped during the 1930s in Germany. /s
Back then there were the mighty Soviet Union on one side and the massive war industry of the US on the other. Together, with other allied forces, they were able to fight back the nazis.
Right now, the fascists have the mightiest army. The largest and second largest airforces in the world (the airforce and the navy airforce). 11 mega carriers, military bases all over the globe.
Who’s going to stop them? Euro forces are fragmented as everyone has their own materiel. China could stand up, but who wants them to win. I mean come on, it’s China. Russia is depleted by Ukraine, plus fuck Russia. India couldn’t care less.
Back then there were the mighty Soviet Union on one side and the massive war industry of the US on the other. Together, with other allied forces, they were able to fight back the nazis.
That’s a highly abbreviated view of history.
Germany wasn’t just magically fascist one day during the 1930s. The country was heavily split between Soviet aligned KDR and Western aligned Conservatives, with Nazis playing both sides against the middle.
Americans like Ford and Prescott-Bush were very friendly with the German and Italian fascists before the war. Hoover was friendly with the Nazis straight into the first full FDR term. The Winter War heralded as a victory for capitalism in many corners of the Western world.
It wasn’t until Germany invaded Poland that mainstream public sentiment turned. Even then, you needed Pearl Harbor to galvanize the US to enter a conflict the Soviets had been fighting for half a year.
Right now, the fascists have the mightiest army.
They always did. US/UK have been fascist at least since McKinley. We were the bad guys during the Cold War. And while we won most of our battles, we ultimately suffered the same fate as our Soviet adversaries - corruption, insurrection, and capture by foreign intelligence services.
Who’s going to stop them?
The worst enemy of the Nazi state was it’s own leadership. They’d destroyed themselves from within before the first boots left German soil.
The country just took a decade to fall apart and killed 80M people as it came crashing down.
I’m glad she doesn’t feel safe anymore
Even better. Slice it into three parts. East, west and middle.
East and west can be one and middle can be on its own.
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Split into the conservative leecher states and the progressive earner states? How will they finance their new conservative utopia? Hate only feeds you that long…
slavery, then war, more enslaving, more war. repeat.
I don’t think the country can afford to pay for everyone one to move to a star of their color choice.
It will be true that it will be way more expensive for Red Staters to move to Blue states. Since Red States already have shittier and weaker economies.
You’re forgetying we just do genocide rather than pay invoices.
Fascists would do the Trail of Tears again on a weekend just for fun. (Deathmarch)
Indeed, with the Nazi-US GeStaPo roaming and randomly arresting, the USA is no longer safe. The MAGA States of America can keep them, so that normal people can live in peace.
That always works in horror movies to boost safety: let’s split up!
We’ll sacrifice the weakest states to survive.
so, beneath the sarcasm, you are very essentially correct.
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Government is not answer, God is.
Turn your full faith and trust to our Almighty God and our Savior Jesus.
Tighten your circle around your family and protect them at all times.
They really just can’t comprehend that they’re violent far right religious extremists…
Can they?
Like, if you translated what Christian Republicans and the Taliban wanted into a neutral 3rd language, I really don’t think people would be able to tell which is which.
These dumbfucks don’t even realize “God” and “Allah” are literally the same fucking dirty and they agree on 99.9999%.
It’s like when one far right extremists shoots another far right extremist in the neck because there’s 2-3 details they disagree on.
If anyone isn’t exactly the same, they’re “them” and an enemy.
If we did actually split the country, their side would just keep picking new groups to run out of their territory until there’s no one left on their side.
It’s also interesting how her statements mirror leftist thinking on this:
Government won’t save you. Trust your neighbors and build mutual support networks.
A lot of these fucks come from backgrounds where such thinking is either the norm or was built up historically but largely forgotten in modernity. If you stripped them of the propaganda they would greatly resemble the union men and women of old.
Everything you said combined with a room temperature IQ.
And a large pinch of mental illness
