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    Rome didn’t have special rooms for people to vomit in, then resume feasting.

    Soviet blocking brigades weren’t machine gun nests set up to mow down retreating soviet soldiers.

    Vietnam had a regular army, it wasn’t entirely a guerrilla force.

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    “Yeah, but they ain’t disproved my beleif in the flat earth” (sarcasm because crappy day in work)

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    I was taught that Canada has 10 provinces and two territories. That was proven false before I even graduated high school!

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    ‘‘You won’t have a calculator in your pocket all the time!’’

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    Five senses; taste, touch, smell, sight, hearing, acceleration, temperature, body configuration, pain, balance, time, hunger…

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      You are missing CO² chemoception. Our lungs tell us if there is a lot stale air, but not if we are in a pure nitrogen environment.

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      Isn’t acceleration just a sense of balance? Like you feel acceleration because the whatever fluid moves in your ears due to acceleration which is the same as balance.

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        I was going to say you have a static sense of what orientation you are in, e.g. you can tell standing up Vs lying on your front/back/side without relying on other senses and that feels different to the sensation of moving…

        But thinking about it I guess the orientation sense is just detecting acceleration due to gravity?

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        I guess so, but similar to how a lot of taste is actually perceived via smell? I suppose linear and angular acceleration could be two separate senses which encompass the sense of balance.

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          well, theres the sense of taste, referring to sweet, salt, sour, bitter and umami. then separately theres the sense of smell, sensing what we call aromas. These are two separate senses.

          Our perception of taste could be argued includes the two senses

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          Eh, it’s not really similar though. Yes, a lot of what we think of as “taste” is actually perceived via smell. But separately from that, there is actually a phsyiological sensation of taste that is unrelated to smell, i.e. the five basic tastes: sweet, sour, salty, bitter, and savoury.

          Whereas there isn’t really any meaningful distinction between the sense of acceleration and balance. They’re exactly the same sensation, and the mind only knows which one you’re actually experiencing by cross-referencing what your other senses tell you. If you’re in a situation where these other senses are unavailable, people generally can’t distinguish whether they’re accelerating or off balance.

          This has led to a number of plane crashes in history, in situations where pilots are in dense cloud cover and can’t see the horizon. During stressful situations, if they forget to look at the artificial horizon display, they think the plane is pitching up, and therefore try to pitch down to correct, when in fact the plane is accelerating (due to already being pitched down), resulting in a crash.

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      Acceleration, temperature, body configuration (positioning), pain, balance and hunger are all related to touch in one way or another.

      Time, however, is legit. Along with emotion. Maybe you could call the 6th sense cognition?

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        Proprioception (body config) is actually feedback from the muscles.

        Also they forget or were unaware of the most interesting sense: CO² chemoception. It is how our lungs tell if we need air.

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        In theory we can break down the sense of sight into subcomponents, too. It’s only the visual cortex that processes those raw inputs into a coherent single perception. We have two eyes but generally only perceive one image, even if the stereoscopic vision gives us a good estimate of distance, and one eye being closed or obscured or blinded fails pretty gracefully into still perceiving a single image.

        We have better low light sensitivity in our color-blind rods but only have color perception from our cones, and only in the center of our visual field, but we don’t actually perceive the loss of color in those situations.

        So yeah, someone putting a warm hand on my back might technically set off different nerve sensors for both temperature and touch, but we generally perceive it as a unified “touch” perception.

        Similarly, manipulating vision and sound might very well throw off one’s proprioception, because it’s all integrated in how it’s perceived.

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    I think the biggest one that was drilled into us constantly, especially about WW2 and Nazis was

    “ Those Who Cannot Remember the Past Are Condemned To Repeat It”

    This was a load of shit as evidenced by what is going on in the USA right now and other parts of the world. The real lesson should have been to push back the second a nazi takes an inch as they will take more if you play the nice and tolerate. Not everyone is well intentioned.

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    When I graduated highschool, the idea that some dinosaurs had feathers and evolved into birds was still “fringe science”.

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    I went through the two websites posted here for graduation year 2008. The only incorrect thing I was taught that I still believed was:

    “Learning styles (visual, auditory, kinesthetic) determine how you best learn”

    False. Huh.

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    1987 Edison was a genius and invented everything, Turns out he was actually the Elon Musk of his time.

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    The one that immediately springs to mind doesn’t exactly fit the criteria, because it wasn’t even true at the time that I was taught it in public school in Texas. But my history teacher taught me that no real historian called it the “American Civil War,” and that it was correctly called “The War of Northern Aggression.” And, of course, although the Confederacy did want to keep slavery legal, their actual central reason for seceding was “states rights.”

    Like I said, both of those are simply lies. Only propagandists call it “The War of Northern Aggression”, and it was always explicitly about slavery.

    The sad thing is that I believed and repeated these lies for years after that. Note that, like most people, I didn’t have access to the internet to easily check things myself. Since at the time I had zero interest in reading about history, it was difficult to correct my knowledge.

    It has demonstrated, to me at least, the importance of keeping propaganda away from children. The more you lie to children, the harder it will be for them to become functioning adults.

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      “The atomic bombings were necessary” was something we were expected to internalize as an indisputable hard fact, like gravity and oxbow lakes.

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        Is it not just the misinterpretation of the fact that the US wanted to end the war quicker to prevent sending more soldiers into a meatgrinder?

        You can certainly call that “necessary” to prevent further deaths of US soldiers.

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          I’m pretty sure the largest consideration was keeping the Soviets from claiming land in Asia the same way they did in Europe.

          Also, we had this shiny new toy and a war was on; we weren’t going to not use it.

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          I think there might be an argument for the first bomb, but the second was completely unnecessary.

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              They had literally agreed to surrender before the first bomb dropped, their only condition being that the emperor remain, which the US agreed to anyway.

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                  In our timeline, after two nuclear bombs were dropped, a coup almost happened that would have blocked the surrender of Japan. Would it have been different without the bombs?

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          The narrative of the Pacific theater still being an intractable or unbeatable long-term conflict in 1945 was hugely overstated, and also leant heavily on racist notions of the Japanese being “brainwashed”.

          Also, most wars could be ended more quickly by committing war crimes, we don’t allow it as a justification when it’s done by the losing side. There was also the option of using them on purely military targets, instead of the middle of a major city, murdering a six-figure number of civilians.

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            I mean, kamikaze pilots did exist, so there had to be a certain level of what you’re calling “brainwashing”.

            And unless it’s also a myth (completely possible), but weren’t there Japanese soldiers found on an island years after the war had ended who were convinced that it was still going on?

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            The “brainwashed” thing is somewhat true, at least from the perspective of an outsider, not due to a racial thing, but there is a cultural aspect in addition to the tendency for all sides to be brainwashed by their own propaganda.

            But the Japanese propaganda told their soldiers to fight to the death, because if the Americans captured you, it would be worse than death. So, from the outside, they did appear to be brainwashed in that regard. Of course, Americans had similar propaganda making Japanese seem as evil as possible, often in the most racist way, so you’d have to say that Americans were brainwashed, too.

            Also, culturally, I think American culture emphasizes each person more, while Japanese emphasizes community more, which means things like kamikaze are easier to sell. And that sort of thing also appears like brainwashing to the outside.

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        Whereas the actual phrase should be “the atomic bombings were necessary to force an immediate total surrender and scare them damn commies before they could take any credit for the Pacific theatre”

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      I was taught it was about states rights, too. In Kentucky, they were less forceful about calling it the "war of northern aggression.

      Did you get taught that some slaves liked being slaves because it meant all their needs were met and they didn’t have to worry about anything?

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        I don’t recall specifically being taught that, but I do recall believing that was a fact at the time, so it is very likely that I was taught that in class.

        I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a couple of slaves like that, but even so, it’s a misleading statement. I actually think that using the truth to lie is a worse sin than just outright lying, because it’s easier to mislead more people like that.

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      Similarly, in the US Northeast, I learned about the civil rights movement as a solved problem, and that slavery was basically the only (and long gone) system of oppression we’d had. “Black and brown people have their equal rights now, carry on!”

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      I had a college professor, Honors US History, teach us that the Civil War was about trade, an agrarian society against an industrial society. Which makes sense and is true in part, but I wish I had known to bring up the various state letters of secession naming slavery as the #1 concern. LOL, Mississippi’s is a doozy.

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      The texas schooling system is horrendous.

      Most texans are genuinely dumb as shit because of how they’ve been hamstrung by their “education.”

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        When I went to grade school, I think it really depended on the local school district. I was lucky enough to grow up in a nice area with well-funded schools, and I have relatively few complaints about the education I received. However, in doing school activities, I had the opportunity to see schools in poorer districts, and there was a distinct difference.

        At the time, I didn’t think too much about the difference, except that I didn’t feel as safe in some schools.

        But looking back… Now I know why parents always shop around for better school districts, because there are some places where it would have been far more difficult to get a decent education.

        That’s my knowledge from many decades ago. Maybe it’s gotten worse since then.