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    Lions are pretty strong, right? While the armor could protect from being mauled or clawed, the impact of those hits would add up. That’s why things like the mace and other blunt instruments came to be.

    And given the title and lack of comma, the lion in full armor is a given, easily.

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    Winner: Lion (in round 1)

    I think you gotta consider that a knight has likely never seen a lion or a beast of such proportions before. If you put the knight into a moderate-sized arena with a large cat, I’m willing to bet the bravery of the knight fails him and he is mauled to death by the lion.

    It all comes down to the mental game.

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      I think you gotta consider that a knight has likely never seen a lion or a beast of such proportions before.

      You do realize that like 90% of knights had a lion on their crests and coat of arms?

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        Yeah, but like, seeing a 2-inch by 2-inch medieval depiction of what a lion is and actually seeing a 420lb roaring beast are two different things. They didn’t have TV or Internet, so like, most people on the planet would never be within 100 miles of a lion in their whole lives.

        Nam sayin’?

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          But they know they exist and they are probably familiar with wolfs and bears, so it’s not like they would be totally awestruck and not know what to do or expect.

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    By necessity the hands and feet of plate armor are thinner and more flexible. If a lion was able to get a hand or a foot in its mouth, it’s game over for the knight. They have more than enough bite force to crush the armor and the body part inside.

    One big benefit of the plate armor when facing a lion is that the armor was usually shaped to deflect and defend against strikes to the head and neck. Lions usually dispatch their prey by crushing the throat and asphyxiating them. The armor should be a good defense against such attacks.

    What I think it comes down to is terrain. If the lion can ambush the knight, the knight will be knocked down before they can bring any weapons to bear effectively. From there, their armor will only make their demise slower and more agonizing. If there is no cover and the knight sees the lion coming, they may be able to keep the lion at bay with weapon swipes. This gives the knight the opportunity for a killing blow or for multiple strikes to make the lion retreat. The knight just has to hope the lion doesn’t charge regardless of potential harm because then it’s just the first scenario again.

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      If, however you shove your arm down it’s throat to the shoulder, your pauldrons might give you some protection, and the arm and hand can now choke the lion from the inside. It’s gonna try to claw you back out, but hopefully it doesn’t gain a purchase, and then the fight is over in less than 5 minutes.

      This is actually what I’ve heard suggested, without the armor, to survive a Jaguar attack in South America

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        Your arm would be destroyed from the bites, armored or not.

        You might survive, but your arm wouldn’t and you’d need medical attention to prevent death from blood loss or crush syndrome.

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        A lion is 2-3 times as large as a Jaguar though. There is a good chance they just tear your arm off at the shoulder and run off with it.

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    100% the knight.

    Steel armor is quite resistant, and the lion doesn’t have anything that could realistically penetrate it or blunt it.

    Even without weapon once they are entangled into a fight there’s two outcomes, the lion runs away once it notices it’s fighting a moving rock. Or the lion gets tired, once tired the human can beat it to death even without a weapon. Humans are famous for their resistance, we have more stamina for long fights and the presence of an armor will make the fight long.

    If the human have a weapon there isn’t even a contest.

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    Armed or unarmed? Armor might help you not die for a while…but without weapons, there isn’t much a person could do to kill a lion.

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      Shove an armored arm down it’s throat to the shoulder. It will possibly suffocate and die. This is the advice I have emheard for unarmed and unarmored humans to survive a Jaguar attack in South America. I would wager that chain and plate mail would level the playing field against a lion.

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        That sounds like someone was pulling your leg. How do you get an arm down a moving animal’s throat, and past it’s limb-severing jaws?

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    Depends on the “full armor”. Full plate? The knight can probably win even without a weapon, as the gauntlets will make his punches more dangerous. Chainmail + gambeson would probably protect the knight enough, but any exposed parts, especially the neck, would make the fight super dangerous for the human.

    Keep in mind that certain blunt strikes, or even the strength of the lion’s bite, can hurt or even disable a limb, even if it’s protected with armor, be it plate or chainmail (the gambeson helps protect against these strikes). Ever seen how dogs can grab a person’s arm and twist it hard? Now imagine that dog weighs 150kg and it should be pretty clear how you can still get fucked. Also, the lion will likely run and pounce, taking down the knight who will be at a disadvantage. Humans are strong, but lions are waaaaaay stronger.

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    The knight keeps an eye on the lion, builds a domicile, raises a family and makes sure his family is wary, the lion keeps finding easier game mostly injured animals breaking from the herd. The lion dies from old age, then so does the knight. We know how this ends. With the knights descendants eventually having to preserve land for the lions and protect them from humans slaughtering all of the lions for fun. The match ends when humanity accelerates the earth into another ice age and is to worried about its own people to think preserving lions would be a good use of their food supplies. Lions go extinct, humans lose a lot… But get a second chance.