So, I’m sure this is a bad idea. But can anyone tell me exactly why? Years ago, in a desperate situation, a doctor told us to get antibiotics for fish and use them, and we had to do that a few times. Some animal products are identical or nearly identical to human products, some are quite different…
With this in particular, how is it different, and why is it bad?
My general approach to life is to assume that not everything similar is the same, and to try to verify things. Ask questions even if you know the answer, having the reasoning explained can help you out in the future, y’know?
But basically, the electrolyte balance that’s healthy for a horse is quite a lot higher than what is healthy for a human (due to body mass differences, among other things). The magnesium in the horse electrolyte is actually over the lethal dose for a human if taken as written. You could theoretically take it and be fine if you calculate the proper dose yourself, but by that point you’re better off just buying human products, I guess.
EDIT: I was thinking of manganese, not magnesium, but that’s 1500% of the daily intake, not necessarily lethal dose. Sodium, though, is over the lethal dose.
Just to add to this, on human stuff, they have an incentive to not be sued out of existence for a single fuckup In horse medicine, it’s kind of like “Eh, a stiff breeze could have killed that horse!”
That bucket of stuff is probably th same ingredients, but sourced from who knows where cheapest biddder, mixed together by eyeballing it for 30 years on equipment that’s probably barely maintained.
I remember reading up on New Life Spectrum fish food a while ago and they were making the pellets on a salvaged pasta press. No tests for lead or any other contaminants because no one gives a shit about the mental health of ornamental fish. I’m sure it’s slightly more rigorous for horses, but I doubt the sanitation, quality controls, and batch monitoring are up to human grade snuff.
Chubbyemu’s videos are great, but sometimes the story seems a little over the top. Then I remember how many people live in this country/on earth and realize those situations must be happening all the time.
All joking aside, if you start having pencil-thin poop all the time (or even just frequenly), that can be a sign of colon cancer and you really need to go see a doctor.
I don’t know about this product specifically, but in general, animal food products are not regulated as much as food for people. This means it may not be as safe.
So, I’m sure this is a bad idea. But can anyone tell me exactly why? Years ago, in a desperate situation, a doctor told us to get antibiotics for fish and use them, and we had to do that a few times. Some animal products are identical or nearly identical to human products, some are quite different…
With this in particular, how is it different, and why is it bad?
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It has enough salt to cause a stroke or a seizure.
horses crave SODIUM
This is how to use what our parents called the information superhighway responsibly right here. Well done Sir/Ma’am/other 🫡
My general approach to life is to assume that not everything similar is the same, and to try to verify things. Ask questions even if you know the answer, having the reasoning explained can help you out in the future, y’know?
Chubbyemu explains it best: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=ifXH86-eIqk
But basically, the electrolyte balance that’s healthy for a horse is quite a lot higher than what is healthy for a human (due to body mass differences, among other things). The magnesium in the horse electrolyte is actually over the lethal dose for a human if taken as written. You could theoretically take it and be fine if you calculate the proper dose yourself, but by that point you’re better off just buying human products, I guess.
EDIT: I was thinking of manganese, not magnesium, but that’s 1500% of the daily intake, not necessarily lethal dose. Sodium, though, is over the lethal dose.
Just to add to this, on human stuff, they have an incentive to not be sued out of existence for a single fuckup In horse medicine, it’s kind of like “Eh, a stiff breeze could have killed that horse!”
That bucket of stuff is probably th same ingredients, but sourced from who knows where cheapest biddder, mixed together by eyeballing it for 30 years on equipment that’s probably barely maintained.
I remember reading up on New Life Spectrum fish food a while ago and they were making the pellets on a salvaged pasta press. No tests for lead or any other contaminants because no one gives a shit about the mental health of ornamental fish. I’m sure it’s slightly more rigorous for horses, but I doubt the sanitation, quality controls, and batch monitoring are up to human grade snuff.
I somehow did not get the notification that he posted a new video thank you kind internet stranger. I have been a fan of his work for years
Chubbyemu’s videos are great, but sometimes the story seems a little over the top. Then I remember how many people live in this country/on earth and realize those situations must be happening all the time.
Yeah, 1 in a million happens more than 7000 times a day.
Because if you take horse electrolytes, you wake up the next day with your shoes nailed to your feet with an overwhelming urge to shit in the road.
Ohhhhh! That makes sense. Also explains why I ate all my young and started pooping really long strings after I took those fish antibiotics.
The strings proved unremarkable, to be honest, but I do miss my kids.
All joking aside, if you start having pencil-thin poop all the time (or even just frequenly), that can be a sign of colon cancer and you really need to go see a doctor.
… so same old same old you’re saying?
This is why we have designated shitting streets.
ohhhhh that explains so much. this fucking country
It’s the dosage I think. Chubbyemu did a video on this exact thing.
https://youtu.be/LUGdQnxuixI
I don’t know about this product specifically, but in general, animal food products are not regulated as much as food for people. This means it may not be as safe.
Depends on the animal and the jurisdiction. As far as I’m aware, dog and especially cat food is more tightly regulated than human food in the US.
Horse food though? Not so much.
And almost no other countries are victims of regulatory capture to the degree that the US is.
Specifically around things like cleanliness and packaging. Places that make vet medicine would not pass a health inspection.