The best way to deal with bluster and narcissism is the grey rock method.
That won’t work here because of FOX and the influencers will then be the only source for communication with the Trump administration.
The only thing that will work would be a general strike and Emperor’s New Clothes moment of huge protests in multiple cities with millions taking part.
That is the only non-violent road forward. And the USA might be too big and too trapped in a digital maroon-ing to be able to coordinate that type of civil action.
Laugh all we can. I agree. But there needs to be a nation-wide coordination of civil disobedience on a scale unseen in the USA ever before. It is going to require getting over differences that the Trump administration will leverage to divide and conquer.
So… Wait.
It’s the exact way we deal with misbehaving children?
The book Stop Caretaking the Borderline or Narcissist is actually a VERY good source for what to do with narcissists when you can’t leave or grey rock them.
if only we can convince the railroad workers to strike again, that definitely got both Houses scared asf.
No. The best way is with humor (assuming you don’t have a gun handy). Fascists hate being laughed at. They want to believe they’re the baddest motherfuckers in the room, and cry like little toddlers the second they think they’re not. (Mel Brooks proved this time and again in WWII)
That’s why the ‘stop being weird’ thing worked so well. That’s why Commander Failure had a breakdown to rival a tired four-year-old in his office after the US generals didn’t leap up out of their seats applauding him.
Mock them. Belittle them. Laugh at them. Tell them they’re weird. It will get under their skin like nothing else.
Fascists hate being laughed at.
Sure, but how does this help?
That’s why the ‘stop being weird’ thing worked so well
Did it work? I count one orange fascist in the white house.
That’s why Commander Failure had a breakdown to rival a tired four-year-old in his office after the US generals didn’t leap up out of their seats applauding him.
So what? He’s still in office. He’s still ruining your social safety net. He’s still oppressing marginalized communities. He’s still crushing protests with military force. He’s still funding and running multiple genocides all over the world.
Mock them. Belittle them. Laugh at them. Tell them they’re weird. It will get under their skin like nothing else.
It might get under their skin but it will not help.
Fascists (or autocrats in general) will not leave the positions of power just because you laugh at them. They won’t even leave if the majority of people laugh at them or vote against them. Look at Russia. I’m pretty sure most of the country was laughing at Putin 15 years ago. I assume you know how it went after that.
They will leave only when forced out physically, or if there is a credible threat of imprisonment or death if they don’t. You need to have an organized and armed force on your side to do that. And neither the police nor the military will be.
Organize.
Join a union.
Join PSL or other parties that actually try to fight fascism.
For now (since revolution is pretty much impossible for a multitude of reasons) the most realistic way to force Republicans out of office is to make the billionaires funding them afraid. Make a realistic threat of a general strike, or even just block ports like the Italian port workers did, and Trump will be out of office in a week.
Yeah I’m gonna be real with you, no chance I’m joining a political party that is pro North Korea 🤷♂️ Otherwise you have a point though.
Here’s a free book about this, called Pranksters Vs Autocrats: https://d119vjm4apzmdm.cloudfront.net/open-access/pdfs/9781501756078.pdf
I would pay to unread this garbage
Lol you didn’t read it.
if you post enough kayfabe i hear it comes true
dude is trying to make his whole wishyverse come true
Get groups of teen girls to roast him mercilessly. Being considered laughably unfuckable by the most “desirable” females is one of their triggers.
What you said is so offensive on so many layers.
Maybe as an adult YOU could step up against this admin and stop thinking about and using teen girls at all. They don’t need to be part of your thought processes, they have algebra homework to do.
I was thrilled as a teen girl to lash out at politicians. I turned 18 after GWB was elected so I had a lot of issues with that type of shit being out of my control. If I knew I could hurt them, at an age when I felt the least guilt over hurting someone’s feelings, I’d be up for it.
Great, again, maybe as an adult YOU could do something instead of volunteering others who are much younger with less informed consent of the danger they are in.
It’s giving Ghilisaine- teen girls are NOT your dolls to play with, regardless of who YOU were as a teen. They are not meant for you to project onto. Go do it yourself.
That’s fine, just clarifying that algebra wasn’t the only concern I had, politics affects them too
Great, and now you’re an adult so presumably you can go to town halls and call your representatives and do other political advocacy that adults do
Yes, I can? I’m not getting why you need to explain that.
How would I know what you do not state? All I know is what you’ve said in your comments, sending teen girls to engage online about and be in danger of associates of Epstein and Andrew Tate. Great idea btw
More unhelpful performative bullshit from dems, must be a day ending in Y
At least we don’t treason and incite violence, magat. I can’t believe someone who can actually read and write, would be a magat smdh!
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I dunno, you’re making communism look really stupid right now by being an asshole.
Like, no solutions, no nothing. Just a bad attitude.
Hey, while we’re pointing out performative nothings, why is it that every communist I’ve met keeps talking about the revolution and then waits for it? Like, my local communist party sets up tables at events but has no information or resources on how to setup a workers or tenants union. Why is that? Don’t you guys have answers?
If your opinion on an entire political philosophy is based on whether or not you personally like someone who espouses it rather than on it’s actual merits then you’re a fucking moron, and you clearly are
I don’t need to have a detailed plan for fixing the world to recognize and acknowledge the many obvious failings of the democrats, nobody owes you that and your insistence that they do is a transparent attempt to deflect completely valid criticisms
“Every communist I’ve met” lol sample size and obvious credibility issues, try harder loser
Why is it that every communists I’ve met act like a child when they can’t think of a counterargument to their silly ideas?
Lol try harder loser
But… You’re doing the exact same thing? It’s pretty hypocritical.
I brought up a legitimate criticism, and you deflected, name called, and then did nothing, ultimately.
Listen, I’m just saying that you should be contributing to your ability, so either you have very little ability to do so, or you are the same as the people you criticize.
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AOC is the last person you would accuse of being performative.
You say that as if we aren’t commenting on a very straightforward example of her doing exactly that
Performative implies pretending to be proactive but the end results are inconsequential. Like Cory Booker’s filibuster which achieved minimally. AOC had been touring the country with Bernie Sanders rallying the working class, the base which the Dems abandoned, and even got support from the Republican voters they visited. AOC’s encouragement to mock the Republican politicians is simply drawing more ammunition from her arsenal of actually being engaged.
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“Someone else did it too” isn’t a very good excuse for anything
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she’s a politician. I like her. but she is a politician.
so… not the last person.
you people really need to be more pessimistic and skeptical about the world. we wouldn’t be in this fucking mess if you were.
Let me guess, you would want an armed revolution like the other guy.
I like actions that actually get results which for us in the states means a general strike at the bare minimum, which the government would almost certainly respond to with violent force anyway because that’s literally always what happens, so yeah an armed revolution whether we like it or not
no. at this point i think an armed revolution would be completely moronic. (although when compared to the outlook you’d have, if doing nothing, its understandable)
However.
I do think people should COLLECTIVELY cease to pay taxes. even if 30% of the population just stopped paying federal taxes, the government would be completely crippled. You would be able to force the fascists to the table. You would be able to force them out.
If the governments of blue states supported this idea, this would be even easier.
Armed revolution is asinine in comparison… Anyway. I’m already doing my part.
Was there a point you were trying to make?
And how do you think the government might respond to a large-scale refusal to pay taxes? Maybe we have some previous examples to look at?
Small scale bullshit. I very highly doubt the government could mount an effective response if 81 million people were to stop paying taxes. But hey, good luck!
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I remember watching these ads on latenight TV in the 90s and wondering, what kind of losers buy this?
oh, that kind of loser.
Who thinks that’s an improvement? But I recall those commercials as well as everyone making fun of them. Now one of the biggest fascists in North America went on tv with that crap at one point.
And the President of the United States allows him to run so many things. Crazy. I’m not sure Mad magazine could have wrote something so bizarre.
Body shaming still isn’t cool. For every short Nazi, there is a short comrade.
Like much of the Republican administration, he is a small man, referring to his personality, not his physical form.
I think you’re underestimating the small penis. People with small penises gravitate towards republicanism.
I mean, they all are rumored to have deformed dicks
Trump’s tiny mushroom head
Elon’s deformed dick that meant that at least one baby mama needed artificial insemination (also so he can make sure every baby is male)
And Stephen Miller’s wife cheated on him for Elon so I can only imagine why that was a step forward
And none eat pussy to make up for it, you can tell they are shitty lovers
Typical inadequate and deficient republican men, then ?
“Stephen Miller is a clown! I’ve never seen that guy in real life, but he looks like he’s, like, 4 feet 10 inches. And he looks like he is angry about the fact that he’s 4 feet 10 inches. And he looks like he is so mad that he is 4 feet 10 inches, that he has taken that anger out on any other population possible,” the New York Rep. said.
Ah yes, definitely referring solely to his personality.
Just stop lying. Disingenuous.
AOC should have mentioned his tiny penis, too.
I was, not AOC. You and I can take the high road all we like as outsiders, but AOC shouldn’t since it hasn’t worked for the Democrats for 15+ years.
Shockingly enough there’s more roads than ignoring blatant corruption and resorting to petty name calling.
The former doesn’t nothing, as we’ve seen. And the latter is generally used by shifty characters trying to distract from truly heinous activity happening behind the curtain.
Neither is particularly effective at actually accomplishing anything other than widening the already vast political divide in this country.
They went low and you went so high that nobody else can even see you anymore.
Of course this shit works. Trump won almost exclusively because his voters love that he’s a dick to people. Having higher standards than his voters is a good thing but that doesn’t change the fact that the argument you’re making here is categorically false. This is exactly the kind of language that resonates with the average idiot in America.
There is a very specific mindset and set of values that it works with. The kind of people who just want to see everyone they dislike get fucked over. They dont want to see things get better, they dont want to accomplish anything. They just want schadenfreude.
As you might be able to surmise, this doesn’t end with a positive outcome.
Trump won specifically because he preaches division and fucking over “the other”. Trying to emulate him is antithetical to getting rid of him and his ilk.
Lol no. People have been calling Trump variations of orange man and making fun of his hands, how fat he is, and his shitty suit fit since before he was elected the first time. It clearly doesn’t do Jack shit
Don’t forget his tiny mushroom penis, and his diapers!
Yup. People always come out of the woodwork defending body shaming bad people. Body shaming anybody perpetuates the ridiculous stigmas, and even if it makes bad people feel bad, it doesn’t result in them changing their behavior.
I’m pretty sure it’s just people that want to be assholes but have the wherewithal to understand they shouldn’t looking for acceptable targets.
I’m a short overweight guy and don’t don’t take offense at all when people use that to mock bad people lmao
Your feelings are not universal and do not justify anything
You feelings are also not universal and do not justify anything.
Is this case he’s a healthy and very normal looking dude. He’s just min-maxed his personality and how he carries himself for immense goblin vibes.
I’m not defending the goblin, or the people noticing that adult goblins are 4 feet 10 inches tall, on average.
Stephen Miller looks like the bastard son of Vladimir Putin.
great grandson of that EyeTalian feller…
AOC offering nothing of substance, says we should laugh at our enemies, I laugh at her when she says “defensive missiles for israel”, and not for the way she looks
Missiles that intercept other missiles are defensive. That’s their entire function. Imo that’s the only missiles we should make, and we should give them to both sides.
These missiles make it safe for Israel to bomb children without fear of repercussion.
Maybe I’m jaded, but I feel like Israel would use any deaths caused by rockets to bomb even more.
The idea that more dead civilians is the key to fewer dead civilians just seems backwards. Every totalitarian regime I’m familiar with revels in the pain inflicted on innocents, just look at how they treat the October 7th victims. It’s almost like Netanyahu was waiting for an excuse to go full tilt.
I have very little knowledge of how the Israeli culture/government works, but I did live through the Bush era, and I can only imagine that additional terrorist attacks would have been a boon to the occupation efforts.
They lean hard on any tragedy, always pushing for more violence. The voters often fall for it, every tragedy allows them to seize more control and justify their unhinged behavior.
There’s almost a symbiotic relationship between stochastic violence against civilians and rising fascism, each step twists the ratchet tighter and tighter.
Unless you use them to shoot down an airliner.
What are we talking about? Israel shot down flight 114 with a fighter jet.
Both patriot missiles and the iron dome are specifically for intercepting missiles, though Israel stopped using patriots last year. The iron dome only works on unguided projectiles, while the patriot system is capable of hitting drones and guided missiles.
The only time a patriot missile has taken down a plane, at least in my memory, is that spy plane over Ukraine, but that is a very impressive outlier.
What are we talking about?
The fact that you can use air defense systems to shoot down airliners, which I’d argue doesn’t exactly count as “defensive” use.
Both patriot missiles and the iron dome are specifically for intercepting missiles
Not really. Patriot is a general anti-air defense system and Iron dome is also designed to intercept artillery shells. Missiles are just the most common things to intercept.
Palestine doesn’t exactly have a lot of airliners tbh.
An artillery shell is a ballistic missile.
A patriot missile can shoot down an airplane, but they have never been used against airliners. I don’t think the iron dome has ever even been deployed against aircraft.
An artillery shell is a ballistic missile.
No, missiles have a motor.
A patriot missile can shoot down an airplane, but they have never been used against airliners. I don’t think the iron dome has ever even been deployed against aircraft.
Not am I aware of, no.
Maybe there’s some military specifics I don’t understand, but ballistic basically means unguided, and a missile is either a self propelled projectile or a forcibly propelled projectile. Wouldn’t that include artillery? Like an arrow can be called a missile, that’s where the term comes from.
Unless the information is incorrect, Google measures him at 5’9… Now, I’m no fan of fuck-face Miller, but why are we pretending like the exact median human height in North America is laughably short? AOC herself is 5’4. This entire height dunking situation is a bit confusing.
Her bird legs make her look taller though.
Now, I’m no fan of fuck-face Miller, but why are we pretending like the exact median human height in North America is laughably short?
We know he’s insecure about it.
Exactly. He’s a bully. And it is always okay to bully the shit out of a bully. Because then they’ll stop being weird loser dipshits.
Its not really about what is or isnt tall, its about what annoys him. If he believes that being 5ft9 is short, than calling him Smurfette will likely make his piss boil. Doesnt make it true, just makes it true that hes an insecure nazi dweeb.
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I think we should consider this the way we would any other form of hurting people. So long as you don’t have to, it’s wrong to do so. I agree that we shouldn’t body shame and I question the need to do so even in this instance, but I have to acknowledge that those on the right do not respond to reason or appeals to their better nature. If by mocking them we can hurt their ego enough that they start acting better to stop the mocking and that stops them from literally killing people then by calling them ‘short’ we saved lives. War is messy business and I’d much rather hurt someone’s ego and cause the societal harm of normalizing shaming about body type than have to kill somebody.
I’ll reiterate that body shaming is an ugly thing and the only way to justify it is as the lesser of two evils. We have to hate fascists openly and unabashedly. They have to know that all the social niceties we give to tolerant people cannot apply to them.
Body acceptance is a form of tolerance and tolerance is a social contract. It’s dangerous to body shame but not more dangerous than tolerating the intolerant.
Ableism is never acceptable. It’s a tool of the weak-minded. A leftist using ableist terms has no solidarity and doesn’t understand her premise.
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what she actually said was that he looks like he’s insecure about being short, not that he is short
so it’s not quite body shaming, it’s shaming his alleged feelings about his body
also, there are no rules for how to treat people who are absolutely pieces of shit. they don’t get the same courtesy as regular people
Liberals are not “the left”
I’m mocking American bipartisan electoralism. How are you so naive?
You should leave the mockery to people who are better at it
Are you upset that you didn’t understand what was happening? If you miss something, it’s normal to feel silly, but don’t make your ignorance my problem.
Lol pure projection
You’re too stupid to realize you missed the entire premise of the comment you replied to. And now you’re just saying words.
Embarrassing.
Lol this is also projection
Ah yes, moral grandstanding. A tenet of the left.
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No, Lemmy has a small content pool — and you consistently have bad takes
Edit: To think I would waste my time following a dipshit around Lemmy. Occam’s Razor, dingus — but I get why such a cough complicated philosophical principle might be beyond you.
Careful, little guy.
Of what, the ratio?
Jesus, .ml users, MAGA — what’s the difference?
For one, we don’t call people dogs.
And I was warning to watch out for a ban. You’re a part of a very serious instance with very serious administrators. Following someone around because you lost an argument is something I’ve seen them ban for numerous times.
Or, keep doing what you’re doing with no regard. You’re easy work either way.
No you just deny the Tiannenmen Square Massacre, celebrate the oct 7th massacre, think supporting Ukraine means that you’re a brainwashed lib or a neo nazi, and whatever other crazy genuinely awful shit you people believe.
So we’ve established that what you people say is beyond worse than calling people dogs. Actually, I shouldn’t call you a dog. I love my dogs, I should call you something that directly harms people. A cancerous tumor.
Oh, believe me when I say this, the admins here are 100% aware of my disdain for .ml users, hexbear, that entire cultish side of Lemmy. I’ll go ahead and steelman your argument for you — I’ve had multiple conversations with Cowbee (you know, one of the people who celebrated the oct 7th massacre). Why, in your clearly infinite wisdom, would I not have been banned for following Cowbee around if what you’re saying is true?
It’s because I’m not you fucking dipshit.
Finally I didn’t even recognize your name when I responded to you, or the tag I gave you — I simply saw a stupid fucking take from one of the cancerous tumors on Lemmy’s metaphorical brain. Get fucked.
Edit: I just noticed the part where you claimed I lost an argument. Dude, you got ratio’d there too — what world do you live in?
Are you 4’ 10" balding rectum, like Miller?
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look man they don’t listen to reason, maybe small pp jokes will do something
It’s literally ableism. Leftists don’t talk like this, only liberals.
It’s not ableism, it’s body shaming. Slightly different concepts but neither should be done.
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How so?
Again, she made fun of his own self hatred at his body, not his body itself.
You can split hairs, but its ableism regardless of the packaging. To deny that she’s making fun of his body is to deny reality.
She just isn’t though. She is clearly making fun of his anger and self hate at the reality that he is not a perfect picture of his OWN values regarding eugenics and taking it out on people who are not to blame via genociding them. And that’s exactly what he is.
If she was talking about Robert Reich, he has a very different mindset about life than hurting others, so it just wouldn’t be valid when applied to him, because of who he is as a person. He has made the world a better place because his disability (per his own words) allowed him to see the importance of social programs and economic equity. So no one would claim Robert Reich is angry at being a little person and taking it out on others by deporting families/genociding them - because he isn’t. Therefore, the criticism isn’t about his SIZE, it is about his self hatred, eugenicism, and genocidal reaction… OBVIOUSLY
As I said, denying reality.
Yes, you are.
Yeah, a lot of people need to stop doing it, it doesn’t harm them, or if it does it also hurts those that aren’t horrible like them. People, but especially the left, need to stop doing it.
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People need to start making fun of this tiny bald bitch more
I can’t wait for the day that that vein explodes and strokes this fucker out.
I’m sure it’s because of his upbringing, and a direct result of his parents inflicting trauma on him, but this man is a monster. He needs to be punched in the face.
Strongly worded letters and playground insults will surely save the Republic. /s
