• rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works
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    Why is someone with clearly zero training or physical ability allowed to wear the word “POLICE” like that?

    Jeeeesus, spent all that time going at it like a couple walruses on a beach and didn’t even get the guy.

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    ?

    That was ice?

    I saw two criminals assaulting a random innocent person and trying to kidnap him. Assault service of course provided by the “I wanna have the Nobel Peace Prize” president

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      LOL because ICE has been operating that way since at least 30 years, this didn’t start overnight. If you didn’t want a quasi-military force with no-warrant arrest powers, the time to complain was in the '90s.

      Or you can blame Russia. That always works.

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    I can’t believe I just watched that many people for that long do absolutely fuck all.

    In my country, within seconds, people would be running in from off-screen and absolutely wailing on those two. And they’d relish doing it.

    A nation of sheep gripped by fear, controlled by whoever wants it.

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      The problem is the people standing around don’t want to become victims themselves. I was wishing they’d do more through the whole video but, if they did, they’re running the risk of a 20+ year prison sentence.

      That said, I think there is plenty of plausible deniability here. There is nothing to say these two are actually officers. Only one of them is in “uniform” and that uniform is something anyone could buy.

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        That’s what I was thinking - much as I wanted them to do more, it looked like the bystanders were being careful to do everything they could that wouldn’t invite immediate escalation - making clear they were filming, moving dropped material away when they got a chance, and generally slowing down the whole process considerably.

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        Neither of which have a firearm. One dude doesn’t have a vest and neither have helmets, and they’re driving a Nissan Rogue. No fucking way that was ICE.

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      At second 46/47 you can see how one of the agents grabbed to his weapon (not pulling it) without pretty much any hesitation.
      So it foors like if they werent in such a public space they would have definetly used it (and if its only for scaring)

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      If it’s any consolation, as a US-ian watching this, my mind was racing through all the things I wanted to do. The kidnappers are all-in focusing on the victim, with stress probably fogging up their brains. Anyone with an iota of mental discipline and a moment to strategize would have an advantage over them.

      I kept thinking how easy it would probably be to remove their masks and sunglasses. Their hands are full, what are they gonna do? They could let go of the victim (win!) to re-cover their faces, or they could let their faces be visible (smaller win) and whatever comes of that, comes of that.

      Then I remembered that I’ve got pepper spray, and this video may be the kick I need to actually start carrying it full-time.

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      You do not understand that this is not your country, clearly.

      There are cameras everywhere. Anyone not prepared to mask themselves could easily be arrested later by police.

      In top of this, Trump wants violence. When things are solved like this, without violence, Trump gets more frustrated and angry… And he resorts to using footage from years ago to try to anger his base, which is already very disillusioned with him over a number of things (Epstein files, Tarrifs, Qatar military base.)

      What happened here was smart. What you are suggesting is destructive to our country.

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      Came here to say this. Good they do something I guess, but Jesus fuck doods they do the bare minimum that passes as ‘something’.

      Nation of sheep is right.

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    Really wish they would’ve censored the good Samaritans’ faces.

    Amazing to see this but I would not want to be caught on video interfering.

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    Mall cops have better handcuffing skills than these chucklefucks. Do they literally have zero training?

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    They have hired the fucking bottom basement, ignorant, fascist wannabe, dumb asses.

    So basically Trump supporters.

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      I highly doubt these men were paid by the government. No M16 or M4, no helmet and vest for home boy, foreign vehicle. These were right wing psychopath kidnappers.

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    The guy the arrested was fat too, but clearly he actually fucking worked in his life.

    He was able to resist those pieces of shit until they gave up.

    No one attacked them and just heckled the shit out of them. Couldn’t subdue one man between the two of them, then ran away when the realized the world still thinks they are pieces of shit.

    They looked like some sort of local chapter militiamen dipshits. Fucking meal team 6, wannabe warriors that probably even get turned down by their own hands.

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    I used to work security for racing events. Ive had to detain more than more fair share of assholes. I am not a good fighter, but I can pretty much anyone on the ground and restrained ready for pick up by the cops. What we saw here in this video, was a joke. That wasnt any kind of trained person looking to detain someone. That was as amateur as it gets. That was like a comedy skit of how undertrained these supposed ICE agents are.

    If you see someone trying to restrain someone, and it looks like this. They are not professional people. They are more than likely MAGA ICE fanboys kidnapping someone. Defence of self and/or others applies. If you dont want to do that, call the cops. Report a kidnapping in progress. Lie if you want, and claim its a child abduction. They will come running then.

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      kinda surprised their hamstrings didn’t get cut with a pocket knife or their ankles hacked at with a hatchet

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          Because we’ve been telling you for decades this was exactly the path you were on, and now, because instead of doing something about it and instead getting belligerent and shitty and responding EXACTLY the way you’re responding now, your completely avoidable fuckups and subsequent inaction is directly threatening the rest of us.

          Nothing more American than endlessly congratulating yourselves on being the center of the universe and then disingenuously suggesting everyone else should just ignore the threat you pose and mind our own business.

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            that’s nice. I’m so happy that Canadians feel free enough to follow US politics.

            can’t say the same though. I really can’t focus on more than one shithole country.

            all I know about Canada is

            1. hockey
            2. maple syrup
            3. lebatt
            4. moose
            5. sorry

            well, that and the fact that Canada is in the same place the US was in 2016. maybe you should pay closer attention to your own shithole country before you start telling my shithole country how to act eh?

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              There’s that damn-near scripted American response we’ve all heard for decades. It’s always cute to see how you try to frame not knowing things as some kind of a flex.

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                it’s almost as if I’m not claiming to be an opinionated prick about things I know nothing about because I am too busy dealing with my own shit.

                sad that you can’t say the same.

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                  Cool. When they’re putting you in an unmarked van you can comfort yourself with the memory of really feeling superior to some opinionated prick on the internet who suggested you do something to prevent it.

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        Its just the least effective thing you could do. You would be better off unmasking or slashing their tires. Both will impact them significantly more and come with way smaller charges if you end up in front of a judge.