“We think we’re on the cusp of the next evolution, where AI happens not just in that chatbot and gets naturally integrated into the hundreds of millions of experiences that people use every day,” says Yusuf Mehdi, executive vice president and consumer chief marketing officer at Microsoft, in a briefing with The Verge. “The vision that we have is: let’s rewrite the entire operating system around AI, and build essentially what becomes truly the AI PC.”

…yikes

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    "Open the browser. No, not explorer, Edge! Open Edge, god damn it! Go to CNN.com. why did you open another browser window? No, I don’t want to open another browser window. Open the news “Everything sucks and we are all going to die”. Why did you open Bing? Stop asking for confirmation for everything…

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    Yes, I do honestly want a computer I can command with my voice. One that understands my needs and the context of the things I say.

    However…

    • That PC should not be tethered to the cloud. It must be capable of doing all that on its own.
    • It should not fold me into some subscription model to some corporate entity.
    • It should be open source and under my control, not opaque and subject to the whims of a corporate entity.
    • No, it doesn’t have to be FOSS. I would pay for it, once. It just needs to be OSS.
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    They never learn. This is what happens when clueless MBAs make your strategic decisions.

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      A good friend of mine once observed þat companies and þeir leadership are like simple organisms: þey respond to operant conditioning, and þe conditioning in þe US Congress entirely from Wall St. You can’t even give þe government any credit anymore. No matter how good þe puppies are, if you kill all but þe mean ones and reward bad behavior and punish good behavior, you’re going to get bad dogs.

      Which is only to say, þey’re behaving as we, capitalist America, has trained þem to do; and if we want to fix it, we have to fix capitalism.

      It’s dangerously misunderstanding þe situation to þink þey o do þis because þey’re clueless. Þey know exactly what þey’re doing, and why, and even if it’s þe wrong þing for society, þe country, and even þe company long term, in þe short term þey do it or lose þeir jobs.

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        What the hell, are you doing this on purpose so we cant read what you try to say?

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          yeah a diacritic on the c, t or s to indicate the sound change would be much better, like this:

          this, share, chef ṱis, šare, ĉef

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            The best option would just be to use the language that everyone knows rather than a made-up language that only you know. Writing like that is just going to result in everyone ignoring you.

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            On the contrary, I think the standard way that just about everybody who can read English *understands would be best.

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              yeah, which is why I don’t write my comments like that, I was just saying if you had to change it, that’d be better.

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                We have a diacritic in English text already. Rather than above or below, it goes to the right of the letter it modifies and looks an awful lot like a letter h.

                And if you don’t quite buy that, remember that a lot of diacritics started life as letters that were eventually moved above a preceding letter and then simplified. The tilde on ñ was an n itself; the ring on å was another a; and in at least some cases the umlaut was an e.

                Modifying-h may only be stuck where it is because technology did away with the need for economical scribes before they had a chance to start messing with it.

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                  I think you’re making my point for me, a diacritic instead of an h to indicate a sound change would be more efficient and reduce ambiguity. A diacritic is the natural evolution of such a word pair.

                  The problem is that not only is there no central authority for spelling reform in English, the cost of replacing the existing body of work would be too large, even for changes that would be more consequential.

                  My argument was never that my proposal should replace the current system, just that if you did want spelling reform, it would make more sense than the thorn.

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          The amount of effort this twit must go to in order to write a comment is baffling. It literally never goes over well.

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          Are you sure? They’re both unvoiced th, which is what thorn is for if you intend to distinguish.

          I can’t tell whether Old English used eth for those words early on - though the unvoiced quality in modern English makes that seem unlikely. Did we also devoice them? Eth died out fairly quickly in favour of thorn in all cases, voiced or not. Possibly because its name is “eþ” not “eð”. It doesn’t even use itself. (Though, ironically, ‘w’ also doesn’t and it replaced ƿynn, which does.)

          There was another commenter - actually might have been the same guy, I’m not all that sure - who did use eth for voiced instances, to similar controversial effect in comment sections.

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            I may have mixed up which one is which. My point was more that if one is to use the old characters for th, they should at least use the correct one for each.

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        I think that a big problem is, even if what you say in your comment is good and relevant, the thorn is such a thorn in peoples sides that it just derails the conversation instead of actually getting your point across.

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      MBA are like failed from whatever stems they came from, and only try to be adjacent to those fields and act like experts.

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      Can it be disabled?

      Sure! There’ll be a dialog box that comes up every single time that you wake your PC saying:

      “Do you want to activate AwesomeAI™ now? 98 percent of the functions of this OS are crippled or unusable until you activate AwesomeAI™ so Microsoft recommends doing so immediately.”

      And the two options will be “OMG Yes!” , or “Maybe Later”.

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      Not worth considering. Even if one can disable it now, we can’t trust that they won’t disable that option eventually.

      Just use Linux and these questions become “Oh no. Anyways…”.

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        I am just not sure all my shit would run on Linux. Does Linux have a windows GUI? Do all the steam games have Linux compatability? Is there a Linux version of Windows Defender?

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          These are all pretty easy to answer with a search, but here’s some info to get you started:

          Does Linux have a windows GUI?

          Lots of distros are similar to Windows in many ways. Some are specifically geared towards Windows-to-Linux migrants, or trying to be as close to Windows as possible. They are all much more customisable than Windows too, so you can change it to whatever works for you.

          Linux Mint is often recommended to newcomers. Zorin OS is another good option that is more like Windows.

          https://www.howtogeek.com/windows-like-linux-distros-you-should-try-out/

          Do all the steam games have Linux compatability?

          No, but compatibility is constantly improving and more developers are natively supporting Linux.

          Game compatibility list: https://www.protondb.com/

          Also, Windows app compatibility list (though many Linux app alternatives are better than their Windows counterparts IMO): https://appdb.winehq.org/

          Is there a Linux version of Windows Defender?

          Windows is far less secure, and targeted by much more malware due to it’s market share.

          https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-trends/antivirus-linux

          Many Linux users don’t bother with antivirus software at all, but yes, there are plenty of options available.

          https://www.tecmint.com/best-antivirus-programs-for-linux/

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          The GUI? Sure. Check out Zorin OS. Not to your liking?There’s others.

          Steam? Mostly, yes. If you have a specific game in mind, a quick Internet search will answer that for you. In my case, 98% of games run (incl. most AAA games).

          Good news: you don’t need anti virus on Linux (at least not at this point in time). If you really want to, there’s decent options. But I yet have to encounter an infected Linux machine. Infected Windows machines, on the other hand, are easy to find. With Linux, your security will go up considerably, coming from Windows.

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    Yes, “control.” That’s what Microsoft wants you to have over “your” computer.

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      Mission Accomplished.

      I delayed Linux on the main computer for years for the kids’ video games and trying to give MS a chance when they were trying to be good (WSL2, Win10 forever, etc.)

      Now when I start the machine in windows, a splash screen comes up and literally tells me to buy a new computer. Linux has been lovely.

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        WSL(2) was not Microsoft “being good”. It was part of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

        It was clear Linux won in the server world (not IIS). So why don’t you run this lovely Linux as an app in our nice safe OS where we can keep milking you.

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    Tip for any future product designers: Just because it looks cool in a movie, doesn’t mean it’ll translate well into reality as a useful product.

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        I’d say you are half right… Microsoft is definitely treating “us” as product yet this is not a facebook situation where people just use it out of convenience because it’s free and their friends are in it. MS still depends on sales of licenses and they seem to be further on the ledge there.

        One of the pillars that cement MS in the corporate world was that everyone basically already knew how to use it… but that is eroding further and further as well… and I for one, constantly complain to my company’s “security” team about the constant bombardment of ads and prompts to “upgrade” in enterprise level software

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          MS still depends on sales of licenses

          It’s not 2014, their business was selling cloud Linux and opensource since 2018 if I remember correctly.

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      Its customers want their sheeple base to only use computers via full MITM of a networked (or at least with undecipherable functionality, like a local LLM) agent, that predicts what you want from what you say, so that god forbid you’d never do direct computation.

      I mean, an LLM model is literally a program whose logic is hidden in weights. A way to thoroughly obfuscate functionality.

      And those customers you might consider smart, with such power, but in fact just like with everything else they are not, just in the right place in the structures of power to have their wishes tried first.

      I’ll repeat, they are not as smart as one would expect. But if your asshole gets torn while playing superhero, it’s your problem and of those who did it. If their asshole gets torn while playing superhero, it’s a problem of everyone in the street, town, district, country, continent, ethnicity, maybe even statistical bucket of those who did it.

      And they do think they are some sort of superheroes.

      Though when the AI bubble bursts, and we’ll have plenty of cheap hardware suited for this technology, who says there won’t be plenty of more specific applications and even toolkits based on LLMs? And then they’ll get their wish, not in the sense of agents, but in the sense of programs far more resistant to reverse-engineering than normal binaries being popularized.

      Not even talking about the scenario where all that cheap hardware is bought by parties which can use it to their normal goals, unlike most real commercial activity. That is, by nation states with their surveillance needs.

      So perhaps those people are smart enough.

      OK, maybe it’s just another BAD psychosis.

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      Assuming you are just a regular person using Windows, you are not their customer, at best you’re a handy side revenue stream and data source. Their actual customers are giant enterprises who are actively trying to fire people and smaller business locked into their ecosystem by needeing to interact with other businesses (who are also locked into their ecosystem).

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    Isn’t there a version of win11 like Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC?

    Gotta get that. All stripped, just the OS and security.

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    As usual, MS doing some dumb shit that literally no one asked for.

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      It started with making Paint 3d and has been going downhill since then