Not even in office and already lying
Nazi denying he’s a Nazi until his Nazi party has gained enough traction to stop pretending they’re not Nazis.
It seems the tankies have a hard-on for this dude.
Why are you lying? Posts on Hexbear about Platner:
I’m sure .ml has similar posts. Again, why are you lying?
I feel like you have to try to find a tattooist in Croatia in the mid aughts willing to ink an ss symbol on an American military member. Like I’ve never been there but I know in America it’s a pain in the ass to get a swastika or ss lightning bolt tattoo because most artists won’t do it, and this is America where we skim history in schools
I’m still trying to figure out why wet are talking about the pirate symbol
I’m fairly certain it’s easier in Croatia than in most countries.
Something smells so bad, can it be his BullShit?!
“We got very inebriated, and we did what Marines on liberty do, and we decided to go get a tattoo. We went to a tattoo parlor in Split, Croatia. We chose a terrifying-looking skull and crossbones off the wall … a pretty standard military thing,”
and you did not, at any point in this “skull and crossbones” endeavor, have your “are we the baddies” moment?
In fairness, that is asking a marine to have thought something through.
Too busy eating crayons.
Hey I’ve been informed that red is a tasty color.
not enough jammed up the nose, into the brain, like Homer.
Aww thanks. 😋
Worth noting that the Croatians were and are often still super aligned with Nazi shit.
Did you miss the subtle subtext in the first sentence? Or do you not know anyone at all who was or is in the military? I only know two or three but still one of them cut off the top of his own head with a ceiling fan. Thats the level of decision making and impulse control you expect from sober young men in the military.
The symbol in question:
He probably thought it’s a cool Darth Vader tattoo 🙄
I mean…I can kinda get why he didn’t know. That looks like one of those blobs therapists use to figure out what you see.
I don’t even see a skull and bones. I see a fish, with a railroad crossing sign on it’s belly.
Even side by side, I barely see the resemblance. I guess that’s what it’s supposed to be, but I could easily be convinced if you show me a fish with a railroad sign on it’s belly.
I can fully understand how he didn’t know. I don’t understand why he got a tattoo he had no strong attatchments to however. He should have at least known WHAT he was getting tattood in the first place.
In any event, nazi affiliation, no nazi affiliation, can we all agree that it’s a shit tattoo either way?
I too think the picture is uselessly bad, and that’s key to another part of the story in the comments. Basically an unnamed associate seemed to be in the same boat of not knowing what it was and the man himself described it by name.
Now he didn’t explicitly say it was a Nazi symbol, but he allegedly used the specific German word for it instead of saying it’s some skull and crossbones.
Per the Jewish Insider citing a anonymous source, so take that for what you will
I suppose what helps for me is that the tatoo is kind of hard to make out, and he doesn’t deny the design intent matches what that is purported to be. I don’t know if anyone would have accurately made that connection without help.
I also wanted to buy an Iron Cross necklace, but my mother wouldn’t let me. I didn’t know what it meant… Cause I was like 10 at the time. How old was he to not know what a Totenkopf is?
I literally just learned what it is. I would have thought it was random pirate or metal shit
OK, then look at it this way. Would you have gotten a tattoo on your chest of something you didn’t know the meaning of?
No, but I’ve known people that have
I wouldn’t, but then again I’m not a drunk Marine.
Like the other user above, I’ve also never heard of the Totenkopf and I don’t recognize the emblem. Looks like any other skull and crossbones to me. I’m not saying it isn’t a harmful symbol, but I can understand how a lot of people would be totally ignorant to its history like I am.
Yeah, I’m more inclined to believe that he was drunk, and a foreigner wasn’t a fan of American Marines in his country, and branded him with a well known nazi symbol on his chest just to fuck with him.
I would have assumed this was just a skull and crossbones design, not a specific Nazi symbol. Maybe some 40k shit.
Right. And you can blame bad decisions on being drunk. It’s ridiculous but whatever. And then the next few decades when you … checks notes … don’t actually look up the tattoo and … checks notes … actively ignore people who told you it was Nazi shit … those years involved plenty of sober incidents.
Also, if you’re going into national politics, you have to know that people will look into your past. So you ask your supporters to do it first, to deal with the rough stuff before it’s trending around the globe. Every single politician in the world understands this basic point.
Would you look up something if you didn’t suspect it was anything more than a random skull and crossbones? Why do you think people told him it was a nazi thing? I dunno this actually seems like a totally feasible story to me, especially when you see how shitty the thing looks.
People are acting like this is a well known symbol but I didn’t know it nor has anyone in real life I’ve talked to about this
I was seriously looking at a tattoo, but dropped the idea after running it by a friend who was more aware of the problematic implications than I was at the time.
It’s not hard to make a mistake. And it might be hard to recall that, at least in America prior to 2016, we didn’t generally take (neo)Nazism and unironic fascism seriously.
Anyway, as someone else said, he shows growth.
It probably isn’t as blurry in a mirror as it is in a flip phone video from 2015.
I’m still not sure I’d recognize it, especially not without the backing shield. Sure, you can say that’s just on me, but there’s so many symbols and references that lead back to nazis that I can’t imagine I’ll know them all. I’d counter that by asking if you’d think anything deep about seeing a Medusa tattoo.
Also, people get meaningless tattoos all the time, especially once you get over your first one’s novelty. You liked it that day. No one is sentimental about their cartoon toaster. No one put meaning into every single element of their full sleeves. Right now there’s a trend of just getting 20 pieces of flash, not far from the generalized traditional designs from the 1950s
Seriously, you think nobody is sentimental about The Brave Little Toaster?
I’ve never seen it with eyes. Even if I did, it’d barely rank higher than a meme in long term sentimentality. May as well be a sinbad S dragon
Wait what makes it a Nazi tattoo? Are all skulls potentially Nazi tattoos? It just looks like a regular (somewhat cartoonish) skull and bones
Edit: Oh seems like part of a specific SS symbol
I mean, after the swastika, SS logo and iron cross, it’s like the fourth most famous Nazi symbol
There’s a pretty wide gap between spots three and four, bud. Even before considering that you forgot about the arm bands and the mustache.
Also skulls are the most widely used symbols for all sorts of things throughout history and modern pop culture
Yeah but that’s a very specific design, bud
That’s what I said lmao. And that it’s only part of the very specific design half the comment section’s never seen before. Some guy even tattooed it on himself without knowing it, buddy
I guess half of the comment section must not be used to dealing with Nazis, pal
Congrats on figuring it out. A rare sight in comments sections
Something about a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
What about his reddit post history makes you think he’s a nazi?
Just a guess, and OP may correct me if I’m wrong, but it would probably be the nazi tattoo he has had on his chest for the past 20 years.
Its more a wolf in wolf’s clothing saying he didn’t realize its wolf’s clothing
Oof
Ouch
The old comments were easily forgivable
A literal Nazi tattoo is something else :/
Next!
I’m willing to believe that maybe through some crazy chain of events you didn’t know when you got it. I’m maybe even willing to believe that through some crazy chain of events you didn’t learn about it for 18 years. What I am not willing to believe is that when he decided to run, nobody in his team told him. He should have gotten it covered or removed. They go through your life looking for anything bad because they know the opposition will. All this combined, there’s 0% chance he just learned now. For some reason they’re playing this weird game. The most generous interpretation I can come up with is that he feels attachment to it and doesn’t wanna get rid of it, but even that’s pretty fucked. You can’t keep your racist tattoo just because you’re nostalgic for it.
I mean, he absolutely can keep it just because he likes it, but that brings consequences
Oh, lol. Good point. The unstated clause being “and not be a racist.”
Our senators have got skulls on them. Are… are we the baddies?
Seems like it’s become in fashion to blame ignorance over your shitty beliefs, instead of owning own your choices like a responsible adult.
Always been, you think Nero owned up to what he did? Hypocrisy is the least important thing to people in a leader.
https://www.grahamforsenate.com/platform
- I don’t believe he’s a nazi. The reddit posts make me think he was never a far right guy. He was just a military guy trying to figure stuff out.
- If anyone in the election has like 90% of his platform, they can get my vote. Until I see momentum behind a candidate that supports universal healthcare, is against the genocide in Gaza, and the dozen other progressive issues, he’ll still get my support.
Getting someone that has the history and look of Platner to be fighting for progessive values is important. If we can get 20 somethings who would fall to right wing propaganda to pay attention to Platner and his growth story, we can build a better society for a lot of people.
I have a weird take on this but i think we are gonna start seeing a lot more of this and need to just get comfortable with people with fucked up pasts being on the side of people.
A lot of very hardcore right wing, racist and problematic peole are struggling to live and will start pushing for more socialist ideals because they have to, to survive.
I think what’s happening is that oligarch is not a race. Wealth is not a race and those that may have thought you could make easy scapegoats by race and creed will realize and adjust their views. Its just not the fight we are having anymore and while we may not like the reasons people are fighting on our sides we kinda have to accept that they are.
If we can make the world better not just for the oligarchs and the ultrawealthy cultists we are gonna have to shake hands and learn to get along with people we have issue with, and give them space to be on a better position.See, I’d be willing to consider this for him if he had the tattoo covered up or removed. A fucked up past can’t be forgiven if they still have a fucked up present.
