Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don’t approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.

Trump said at a press conference that when he asked Democrats for feedback on the funding bills, one said, “It means death.”

“There’s nothing about death,” Trump said. “Theirs is death because they’re going to lose Medicaid, they’re going to lose Social Security, they’re going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone because the whole country would be bankrupt, and you’re not going to have any kind of medical insurance.”

    • potoooooooo ☑️@lemmy.world
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      So all you Republicans

      That helped me to win

      I’d sincerely like to thank ya

      Cuz now I got the world swingin’ from my nuts

      Damn it feels good to be a gangsta

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    The only reason Trump cares about the shutdown is because his people are telling him he will be blamed the worse it gets.

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      Did they really not build a mechanism for us to collectively vote no confidence? I feel like they’re abusing every trick in the book and nobody can find a way to stop it

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          Once upon a time there were three Billy-Goats Gruff; Little Billy-Goat, Middle-Sized Billy Goat and Great Big Billy-Goat, who lived in a field in a green valley.

          They loved to eat sweet grass, but sadly their field was now brown and barren because they were greedy goats and they’d eaten every last blade of grass.

          But they were still hungry.

          In the distance, they could see a field that was full of lush sweet scrummy grass, but alas there was only one way to get to it – over a rickety bridge over a stream.

          But under the bridge lived a terrifically terrifying terrible troll called klammeraffe – he was always hungry too. And there was nothing he liked better than to eat a nice juicy billy-goat.

          The Little Billy-Goat was the first to reach the bridge. Gingerly, he put one hoof and then another onto the bridge.

          But because it was so rickety, however hard he tried, his hoof still went trip trap, trip trap on the wooden planks.

          Suddenly there was a huge roar.

          ‘Who’s that trip trapping over my bridge?’

          And out from under the bridge loomed the Troll.

          Quaking in his hooves, Little Billy-Goat Gruff managed to squeak, ‘It’s only me. I’m only going to look for some grass to eat.’

          ‘Oh no you’re not! I’m going to eat you for my breakfast, lunch and tea!’

          ‘Oh no!’ said terrified Little Billy-Goat Gruff. ‘I’m just Little Billy-Goat Gruff. Why don’t you wait for my brother? He’s bigger than me and much tastier.’

          So the greedy Troll decided to wait and Little Billy-Goat Gruff skipped over the bridge and began to eat the fresh green grass on the other side.

          The other goats saw Little Billy-Goat Gruff eating the fresh green grass and were jealous because they wanted some too.

          So Middle-Sized Billy-Goat Gruff went down to the bridge and began to cross the stream.

          Trip, trap, trip, trap went his middle-sized hooves. Again the Troll loomed out from under the bridge.

          ‘Who’s that trip trapping over my bridge?’ he roared.

          Quaking in his hooves, Middle-Sized Billy-Goat Gruff managed to say in his softest voice, ‘It’s only me. I’m following my brother, Little Billy-Goat Gruff, so I can eat the sweet grass.’

          ‘Oh no you’re not! I’m going to eat you for breakfast, lunch and tea!’

          ‘Oh no, Mr Troll, you wouldn’t want to eat me. I’m not big enough to fill you up. Wait until my big brother comes along – he’s much tastier than me.’

          ‘Oh all right,’ said the Troll and Middle-Sized Billy-Goat Gruff scampered over the bridge and began to eat the sweet green grass with Little Billy-Goat Gruff.

          Big bold Billy-Goat Gruff was jealous and couldn’t wait to get across the bridge and join his brothers.

          So boldly, he put his hooves onto the bridge.

          Trip, trap, trip, trap.

          Suddenly the Troll loomed out from under the bridge.

          ‘Who’s that trip trapping over my bridge?’ he boomed.

          ‘It’s me. Big Billy-Goat Gruff. Who do you think you are?’

          ‘I’m the Troll and I’m going to eat you for breakfast, lunch and tea!’

          ‘Oh no, you’re not!’

          ‘Oh yes I am – you’ll see!’

          Then the Troll rushed at Big Billy-Goat Gruff who bent his head and bravely charged at the Troll, catching him up in his horns and tossing him into the stream below.

          The Troll disappeared under the rushing water, never to be seen again.

          From then on, anyone could cross the bridge and enjoy the sweet green grass with the Three Billy-Goats Gruff.

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          No trolling. SS checks stopping might actually be the thing that wakes boomers up. Elections have consequences and they can all lie in the bed they made.

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            They’ve always been fine with it so long as it wasn’t their checks that stopped.

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        I have the same opinion as klammeraffe. America right now is not a good thing so im fine with it being shutdown.

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        At this point, it will rip the bandaid off and make desperate people come after Republicans. That’s the best possible outcome.

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          When one side tells truths and the other only lies, the side that lies controls the narrative. They’ll go after Democrats.

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            Republicans have always polled as responsible for every government shutdown in recent memory. Its doubtful that it will be any different this time, especially when the dems have stuck hard to the one issue of subsidies.

            The republicans can tell as many lies as they want, but this is one of the few circumstances where their lies cant override the lived experience of their supporters. They know their healthcare will evaporate or triple in cost. Even their dumbass voters know that their representatives are doing them dirty here

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    Social security has been withdrawn frim my paycheck for 40 years… shit better be there for me when its my turn.

    Whats more dangerous than a starving, homeless man with nothing more to lose.

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            I’m pretty sure a few people could just figure one out from memory. Thats like early game minecraft type shit.

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              The trick is to put a weight on the blade. I watched multiple videos.

              The weight helps the blade stay on the track with out straying, which causes friction and less force.

              A straight blade is more likely to have issues coming down off track. But cuts best if weighted.

              The angled blade was not the best choice based on the videos I saw that tested a bunch of different blade designs.

              But weight. Add like 20lbs to the blade. Or make a hydraulics one. There is also a video where some one made one. But the simple one will do the job.

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      Who knows what the future holds, but anyway the people over the past 40 years receiving social security direct deposited into their bank accounts every month thank you for your obligatory contributions. They couldn’t be living large without you 😜

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        Many retirees ain’t ‘living large’ as you seem to think. Many need to continue to work to afford groceries, pay rent, and buy medications. So many medications. And medicare doesn’t cover everything you need when your old. You pay for the Part B medicare, a minimum of $150 per month and the cost goes up if you have more money. But you STILL nee to buy extra supplemental insurance to cover the things medicare doesn’t cover. So several $100’s more a month for insurance. And do this while on a fixed income…

        If you weren’t living large before you retired, you ain’t living large after you retire.

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          This is a casual discussion forum, sorry you didn’t see I was exaggerating. Any amount of money put into one’s bank account with no effort is “living large” (slight exaggeration) in my opinion. Hey I’m struggling too. Life is not easy.

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            The idea behind social security is that the recipients already put in a career’s worth of effort. They paid social security taxes for however many years, and now they are ENTITLED to the payments they receive in their retirement. It’s their money.

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              I understand but when we had to wait 50 years to get back that money we put into the pot, it’s retirement time and we are literally relaxing, not working anymore. The money appears in our bank accounts while we spend our last few years on vacation.

              I’m so sorry you feel like you need to explain the concept of social security to me.

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                Yes, but the money you get isnt enough to live on when retired. You need huge savings and possibly keep on working into yoyr 70s and 80s

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                  I know. If I ever make it to age 72 my monthly SS will be $2k/month which will probably have the spending power of $50 by then, based on inflation. Even $2k/month now, wouldn’t be enough to survive on by itself.

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    Good! Without Social Security or Medicare we can afford TWO Golden Ballrooms!

    -Republicans LITERALLY on Social Security and MEDICARE!

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      While I like your joke, I think the reality is worse. Ballroom supposedly not funded by taxpayers but instead being build by “donations.”

      Just imagine what’s been promised…

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    Better not be gone before I am or I will hunt you down like the devil cur you are, you diaper wearing sack of shit

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    MAGA has been told, and believe, that the Ds are responsible for the shut-down. Telling them that the Rs control both the House and the Senate receives blank stares, or goes right past them. If we lose SS and Medicaid, they’ll still support the Rs.

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    How would social security be gone? It’s in a special trust fund that is seperate and apart from the government’s budget.

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    Don’t worry, the money will not be gone. It will go to the rich instead in order to trickle down…

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      Same message Democrats communicated when people demanded a viable non-genocidal candidate who doesn’t thank Dick Chaney for his “service”, surrender or is your fault.

      The illusion that Democrats are fighting on your behalf is just that. Two sides of one fascist coin, only one side is rustier.

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        I don’t disagree that Democrats are problematic and have much to improve. But that “both sides” is some tart kool-aid to drink, to think that things would be the same or even worse had Trump lost. I’d like less rust, please. Also, that definition of fascist is a very broad and loose one if Harris falls into it. Must be the one that Trump used, where it’s combined with “communist”, “socialist”, and other words he has no understanding of.

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            No dude, I’m just not a fucking moron.

            I’ve got no interest in relitigating the election, I’m well aware of what she said regarding Israel.

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    If the country goes bankrupt I don’t have to pay taxes anymore. Then I could pay cash for my medical, and skip the insurance premiums. With the savings I could fund 10 people’s healthcare and still have a ton leftover to pay extra state taxes to have the federal roads maintained…

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    To be clear, the day SS is gone is the day I’m willing to pick up a gun and get this party started.

    And I know I’m not alone.

    This society doesn’t need to continue functioning the day SS stops functioning. So the treasonous Republican party can go ahead and do that and find out what happens next.

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      The sad thing is, most of us (Americans on Lemmy/Piefed) are probably not going to see why we need social security.

      It’s basically a government ran pension plan if you can’t work. Most of us can work and are. So we don’t see why we invented it during the great depression to aid in a social safety net when shit goes south.

      And Trump is most likely going to continue plummeting shit into an economy as bad as the Great Depression. Some already had the question of “Do I eat today or do I save up to pay for rent this month?” And Trump isn’t the person to solve it, only make it worse.

      Most of us probably don’t claim the funds from it, and go “Oh this is just for the elderly, not for me. I’m 20 to 30 something and able bodied, this is for when I’m 60 something and walking with a cane.”

      When Trump guts it and if we have any resemblance of the federal government when we need Social Security, this will probably have lasting effects when we need to claim our benefits.

      And the even sadder part, all of his voting base will just nod along. “The gubberment took money from muh paycheck, says so here in muh paystub, fucking woke commie Democrats. Da woke took muh $100 a month, I had to spend that on Trump hats!”