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  • Investigation underway: A UPS cargo plane crashed shortly after taking off from the Louisville, Kentucky, airport Tuesday, leaving a fiery trail of destruction and a half- mile-long debris field. At least 12 people have died and others are injured, officials say, warning the death toll could climb as the investigation continues.

  • Black boxes recovered: An NTSB investigation team is on site at the crash location and has recovered the aircraft’s “black boxes” - the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ups-plane-crash-louisville-airport?ch=1

    • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net
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      28 days ago

      It’s probably worse.

      In the 90s Boeing and McDonnell Douglas were the two major aircraft manufacturers in the US.

      One was thriving, renowned for it’s engineering excellency and the quality of the aircraft there produced: Boeing.

      The other one was facing technical issues, development cost overruns, growing unit costs, and delays mostly due to leadership and management decisions: McDonnel Douglas.

      In 1997 they merged, the new entity kept the name Boeing but most of the leadership positions were filled by executives coming from McDonnel Douglas.

      For a lot of people this merger marks the moment Boeing started to spiral downwards.

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    30 days ago

    The really impressive thing to me about this video, other than the obvious fireball, is how quickly that flag changes directions and how violently it flaps, showing just how much air the fireball is pulling in.

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      28 days ago

      The other video with sound makes it clear that the fuel fire is drawing in a huge amount of air. I looked at it on google maps and the camera doesn’t convey how close that guy was to the fireball. It looks like he was parked at the back of the lot and the plane went between him and the entrance to the lot.

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      29 days ago

      For those trying to find it (like me) the flag is in the edge of the parking lot and looks like one of those tall vertical ones.

  • PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    Tail was down. That’s probably a package issue. Wonder if it was partially filled. And the container they slide in slipped back. That’s insane to see. Wtf is happening.

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      29 days ago

      An engine exploded when they were taking off, still on the runway but too late to abort.

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        28 days ago

        It was even worse. One engine exploded and the tail engine failed. They could have still taken off with just one engine out.

        Not a good way to go.

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      30 days ago

      That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.

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        29 days ago

        It’s not the first time an engine has fallen off of a DC-10/MD-11.

        1979 Chicago O’Hare American Airlines AA191

        That particular instance was due to maintenance not following the correct procedure for mounting the engine. It caused cracks in the support pylon and it was just a matter of time. The crazy thing is the pilots did exactly what they should have done. The problem is the warning system for slat disagreement was only powered by the electrical bus supplied by the engine that just departed the aircraft. So the pilots had no idea that the slats on that side of the aircraft retracted due to damage to the hydraulic lines. So that wing complete stalled and 271 people died.

        The difference with this crash is the plane was wings level until the tail hit the ground. Also in that video if you look closely the slats are out on the port wing.

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        30 days ago

        Yeah, none of the flights i have flown on had an engine fall off. But I have never flown on a UPS cargo plane, they may do things differently.

        • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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          29 days ago

          That model was dropped by passenger Airlines because of excessive maintenance issues. This flight was to Honolulu, had 34 000 gallons of fuel and it tore a strip one mile long from the runway.

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      There’s video from a news helicopter, and still images from other sources, showing a damaged engine lying next to the runway where the plane was taking off from.

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        Good eye. If you freeze frame at around 0:01 we can see that the wing nearest to the camera has an engine under it like normal, but the farther back wing is just a flat surface underneath

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      29 days ago

      That reminds me of that Israeli el-al Boeing that went down over Amsterdam some 30 years ago.

      Lost one engine because of shit maintenance, that engine hit and ripped off a second engine and part of its wing and it still kept flying for a bit

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      30 days ago

      It was actually unrelated. He just got a call that unlimited popcorn shrimp was back at Red Lobster for a limited time.

      Edit: People downvoting me must have tried to go to Red Lobster, only to realize it’s not back in their area. And now they’re mad at me for getting them hungry.

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        Jeez, you guys need to learn timing. That kind of humor isn’t ok this soon after a tragedy. Just like UPS delaying my delivery of ball gags isnt ok.

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          I’d tell you to just be quiet, but you never got your ball gags…

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          28 days ago

          As a neurodivergent let me tell you that’s a very subjective subject. I love his post.

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    29 days ago

    I didn’t get these companies that do shit maintenance. Is it really worth the loss of lives and a full on plane to not do the bare minimum?

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      29 days ago

      How about waiting until the NTSB’s full report next year before making accusations? One thing I can say for sure, multiple things went wrong.

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      CEOs of giant corporations are sometimes actually sociopaths, so they don’t care if they kill people. And they get financially rewarded only for short term profit, the company’s long term future doesn’t effect them at all, so they don’t care if reducing maintenance causes problems for the company 10 years later

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        29 days ago

        Read Almost a Psychopath by Silver and Shouten. There is neuroscience behind how CEOs behave.

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        I’m as anti CEO/billionaire as you, but people are also inherently lazy and selfish AF, and so negligence is possible at every level of this thing, except maybe the folks on board the plane. There’s no point in levying out blame until there’s actual information about what happened, rather than speculation.

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          28 days ago

          Unfortunately, I am expecting the Trump Regime to falsify any investigation into this, if only to protect someone from the blame. Plus, DOGE probably cut down the size of agencies.

          Hopefully I am wrong, but this year hasn’t been a great one.

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    28 days ago

    There’s so much happening on this video. I watched it a good 10 times then my kid remanded to see it. So he was watching it over and over. Here I’m watching once again in repeat.

    Anyway, holy shit! What a way to go! Like they blow right thru the power lines and the pilots are definetly still alive at that point fighting to keep the plane up. The couple of cars right under the plane’s path just looking lucky AF under the sparks and dust and smoke. Then the guy in the truck nopes it the F out of there. Then the two tire guys come out running like the devil is a foot. All the while the guy in the truck is slowly coming to a steady stop probably holding a droopy holy shit face. The fireball the pilots perish the other crew member probably didn’t even know what the heck was going on. Then finally the fireball turns to a big smoke cloud.

    Ofcourse the shitty part is that they all had plans for that evening. Its sad, but if I had to go that day, this is top most way out. May all your souls rest in eternal pace.