cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/52742400

How the Senate Democratic leader and his Gang of Eight keep trying to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

  • khepri@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    He wants the good old days back, when both parties shared equally in the grift and everyone in the political elite understood what the game was and how to keep it running. Schumer gets that to keep the machine running (that has made them all very wealthy and powerful while working about 85 days a year) he’s going to have to go under the boot and take us all with him.

  • frustrated@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    Schumer is part of an old american politics where there was a cordial relationship between both sides and the cost of sacrificing the interests of the constituents was largely negligible - no one knew what was going on so no one could complain (pre-24hr news cycle and pre infinite news outlets online or in public). Times changed. People notice everything. Schumer is not built for this time where everything he does is under a microscope and where consequences are seen and felt. He is acting as if he can just pretend that things are like they were in the 90s where he can show up, gladhand with donors and his colleagues across the isle, cash a check, work 4 months out of the year, and insider trade. He cant. The problem is that he is also intrinsically part of the democratic party machinery so no one can force him out. He needs to be primaried at a minimum.

  • LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    “Why does Schumer keep trying to cave?”

    How will we ever find the answer to this complicated question? I mean, if you just assume that he’s compromised trash, and barely better than his GOP colleagues, then everything would be explained, but that obviously can’t be the solution.

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      27 days ago

      barely better than his GOP colleagues

      His GOP colleagues are trying to send anyone who’s Mexican to a prison camp and make it illegal to oppose them.

      Schumer is a bunch of dog shit smirking in a suit all hunched over like Igor, but they’re not in the same ballpark in terms of the damage they’re doing.

      • Mike D@piefed.social
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        27 days ago

        This almost reads as if you are trying to defend Schumer.

        He continues to let these atrocities to occur as long as his nest egg is safe.

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          This almost reads as if you are trying to defend Schumer.

          I am not

          He continues to let these atrocities to occur as long as his nest egg is safe.

          Absolutely 100%. He basically doesn’t give a shit as long as he keeps getting a paycheck. Can we fuckin’ primary this guy? I would donate money to that.

      • mcv@lemmy.zip
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        “Schumer is a bunch of dog shit smirking in a suit all hunched over like Igor” does not sound like a defense.

        Schumer is absolutely a problem to the Democratic party, but he’s not MAGA. I’m fairly confident he’d vote to impeach Trump, unlike the Republicans. So he doesn’t support Trump, and he doesn’t support his fascism (although he does support Netanyahu’s genocide, apparently), but he’s also not doing much to resist it either. He’s very much a status quo conservative. Trump is upsetting that status quo, by making it worse. We also want to upset it, but in the opposite direction.

        Schumer finds himself stuck in the middle, trying to balance his allegiance to his corporate masters and Netanyahu with Trump’s fascism and the needs of the American people. It’s an awkward position to be in, but he chose it himself, and I don’t feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for the Democratic Party that’s constantly being held back by him.

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          26 days ago

          “Schumer is a bunch of dog shit smirking in a suit all hunched over like Igor” does not sound like a defense.

          I mean clearly it’s not lol. The other person is just suffering from Lemmy reading comprehension.

          Schumer finds himself stuck in the middle, trying to balance his allegiance to his corporate masters and Netanyahu with Trump’s fascism and the needs of the American people.

          You misspelled “trying to conceal his allegience to his corporate masters and Netanyahu and not bothering to put much effort into the ruse.”

          I am 100% assuming that last night’s capitulation was engineered by Schumer with a handful of people designated who can afford to take the fall for it. If Schumer ever bothers to explain his feelings about ending the shutdown, I guarantee he will make some general noises but definitely he will not say anything that sounds like he thinks ending the shutdown without ACA funding was a bad thing.

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      27 days ago

      This constant trying to compare the terrible leadership to the GOP only shows that you have zero understanding of how sinister and evil the GOP actually is.

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    Vote in/ allow to be voted in psychopants and weak willed and you get a crumbling society. It’s not complicated.

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    26 days ago

    He isn’t caving… this was planned.

    The ratchet keeps turning it all to the MAGA side.

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    Wonder if he’ll get “primaried”. Chuck’s definately lost touch with the democratic base. How he handled the NYC mayoral race demonstrated that.

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      27 days ago

      My pet theory is that Schumer will agree to not run again, and AOC will take over his seat without primary opposition, as long as she promises to not run against Newsom for President.

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        AOC will take over his seat without primary opposition

        I have bad news for you about how the DNC operates

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          What do you mean? Making a backroom deal to get the Next One Up across the finish line is exactly how they operate

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            yeah but AOC is someone the public could get behind as a genuine crusader for the small fry.

            DNC historically backstabs people like that the hardest, in order to push the totally-not-republican-in-everything-but-name candidate on America.

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              The DNC backstabs those folks if they run for President, but would have no problem backing a certain victory for a Senate seat.

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                  Well, they tried to, but he won, and now they are all going to cozy up to him as long as he keeps winning

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        I really want AOC as president, but it’s already fucking clear with the past 2 women nominees that the USA, despite claiming it is “progressive”, will not vote for a woman. Even a white woman couldn’t make it, what makes you think a brown one will again?

        Only time I see it happening is if there is mass social upheaval, a desire for change like with Obama. Today, the propaganda machine has amplified and division is rooted deeply. We crossed the Rubicon as a nation.

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          Or maybe those women had dog shit policies. Nope, no introspection allowed, just play the victim card and learn absolutely nothing.

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          I think AOC will make a perfect Presidential candidate, in 2040 or 2048 after a few terms in the Senate. She will still be “young” by Presidential standards. Maybe by then many of the misogynists will have died off.

          Don’t get me wrong: she would make an extremely good candidate in 2028 too. But I don’t think she has a chance of winning in the current climate. Too many people won’t vote for a woman right now, but are self-aware enough to know they can’t admit it anymore, so will come up with bullshit reasons why they can’t do it.

          If she is on my ballot she is getting my vote, full stop. But I want to keep her for NY for a while longer.

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            The main problem is that by then the character assassination will be complete. Right now it’s still just underway.

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    Simple:

    In world politics, USA Moderate Democrats are Center-Right on the scale

    So they might as well be 2 sides of the same party

    Sure there are some good moderates but majority have been failing us for too long.

    So look into/research/volunteer for Run For Something. They train Progressive candidates and won many of their elections couple days ago when we won big

    They take no AIPAC, & actively make sure their members do not. They are growing nationally their bench & have on Substack RFS Feel Good. Which weekly updates people with accomplishments they have collectively completed over the years

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    Stop pretending these oligarch lackeys in public office are “caving” or “surrendering” or “giving in”.

    They are doing what they are paid to do by their donors.

  • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    26 days ago

    It might be time to rename the Dems to the Controlled Opposition Party (COP). Seems like a nice counterbalance to the GOP.