• brb@sh.itjust.works
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    I assume this is a murican problem. Where I live the delivery apps are about 5-15% more expensive than grabbing it yourself. If you order from a close by restaurant (<8km) the delivery is free most of the time, so you only have to pay the service fee (we don’t do tips).

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    Millennial here. I cook most of my own food. Have never and will never use services like door dash, cuz I don’t want to pay extra to give some stranger unmonitored access to my food. I will tip when I eat out, even though I hate it - for fuck’s sake just factor the tip into the price of the food… my whim as a customer shouldn’t determine if someone else’s employee gets a fair wage.

    Anywho, I don’t think that’s horribly uncommon for my generation - most of us can’t afford to eat out more than once or twice a month, if that.

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      I stopped tipping for take out or if it’s a self serve place. If I’m doing 80% of the work, why should I tip you for pressing 3 buttons on an iPad. Fuck that.

      If it’s a place I’m sitting down and have an active wait staff taking my order and bringing my food and then taking the dishes after, then yea I’m gonna tip.

      I’m done with the bullshit that puts the consumer on the lowest rung. If you can’t afford to pay your staff then I hope you go out of business.

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        I’m not actually sure what the normal etiquette is there. The only time I ever get take out is from a mom-and-pop Thai restaurant that’s one of those hole in the wall places, and I tip the fuck out of them cuz I want to support them.

        If you’re talking like a fast food burger joint, then yeah fuck that.

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      some stranger unmonitored access to my food

      Do you personally know every chef at every restaurant you eat at? Argument makes no sense

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    When people tell me they get food delivered that isn’t a classic range of delivery foods (plus Ethiopian) so they can not be disturbed doomscrolling or binging TV, I immediately think less of them. Especially when it’s food that very obviously doesn’t travel well.

    In the time it takes to pick something and get it to you, you can cook 1 of 900 million things that will be better. Even when drunk. Even when high AF. FFS, even frozen pizza is faster then delivery. Let alone the cost. Soggy-ass fry eating MFers deserve the cold sad food you eat.

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      I don’t have to do nothing while waiting for delivery. I have to cook to…cook. Sometimes I don’t want to cook, and I usually have something quicker if that’s the case, but your false equivalency doesn’t help your argument.

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      11 days ago

      Sometimes, I just want to be a potato and wallow in self misery while someone brings me kebab and makes my life instantly better.

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    Wide sweeping generalizations about entire generations. I don’t know a single millennial that uses those food delivery services. Clearly someone is using them, but i guarantee it’s just about evenly distributed across the population.

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      Jumping on the “not knowing any millennials who do uses door dash every day/often” train, but also acknowledging that I cant possibly know every single person in the world.

      Even tho the fact that people often use these services always bemused me, I cant pass the fact that these services are still thriving and there seems no end to their popularity.

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        Yeah like i said, people are using them, but it’s almost guaranteed to be an even spread across the population.

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      I’m a millenial. I kind of use those services. Not really.

      2 years ago I moved into my apartment. I would come home, and see a bag of food delivery in the lobby.

      So I would go up to my apartment, think nothing of it.

      Then I’d take out my trash at 6am, and see it still sitting there. One day I checked the tag. Delivered 8pm the day day before.

      It kept happening. Different apartments, delivery anywhere between 3pm and 10pm. I’d come home from work at 1am, and it still would be there.

      Eventually I just started checking the tag, and if it’s been more than 2 hours, fuck it. Free dinner for me!

      I still don’t get why these delivery drivers won’t deliver to the apartment door, always leaving food in the lobby. I also don’t get why the customers who paid for their food don’t come get it.

      Either way, roughly once every 2 weeks, I have free dinner.

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      Exactly this. I know millennials that use third party food delivery services for convenience, but I have not and will not. It is predatory, the drivers do not make a living wage with benefits. It also costs too much and the food arrives lukewarm and soggy.

      I enjoy eating out now and then, but I can get my ass into a car or walk to a restaurant to pick up my order myself. It is better and cheaper to DIY your own delivery.

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      Seems to be unpopular to admit in this post, but I use food delivery apps. Yes, the fees are ridiculous, but I can afford it. I don’t do it every day, but I do at least once a week.

      I hate cooking and I hate dishes. It’s never pleasant. No, I can’t personally make something at home “better than most takeouts”. If you can, good for you. It’s not for me and I’m lucky that I am able to get takeout.

      Honestly, I don’t know how in the world one human is able to keep up with working 40 hours a week, cook, dishes, laundry, clean, etc. It’s all too much for me. Hell, the state of my laundry has been insane the last several weeks.

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        Once you learn how to reduce a lot of that, there is less waste and less cooking and waiting and yes the food is better than food delivered to your door. Even the cheapest frozen pizzas are better than the majority of pizzas delivered to door and pizza companies are the best at delivering fresh food to your door.

        If you don’t want to do dishes then use paper plates. Like, you can both simultaneously generate less trash and have better food.

        I agree that it’s impossible to keep up with chores. I do just a little every day and that helps keep the number down but it’s still impossible. But like if I’m going to get food from a restaurant (which i do) i go pick it up. It will get to me faster, I’ll eat it fresher, it will taste better, and it will be cheaper. Like the only upside to the food delivery apps is that you don’t have to go outside, which honestly is a downside for a lot of people in this day and age. We need people to interact more.

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          Even the cheapest frozen pizzas are better than the majority of pizzas delivered to door and pizza companies are the best at delivering fresh food to your door.

          Man you must have some absolute shit pizza places near you, I’ve had lots of frozen pizza and lots of pizza delivery. Frozen pizza can beat out the bottom tier chain pizza places (e.g. Little Caesars), but that’s about it

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            With covid, pizza places stopped cooking their pizzas fully. We get a soggy mess, with a soft crust, and way too much cheese every time. On top of that you’re still waiting for the delivery on a route of x other pizzas. It’s faster and better to just pick it up yourself. And then you can check it and tell them to cook it properly when they inevitably don’t cook it all the way through.

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                I do. Every time. They still barely cook it. Which is why going in to pick it up is still better, cause i can see and tell them to fix it which you can’t really when it’s delivery.

                • It’s so weird to me. I live in a place where people like their meat cooked to total destruction of flavor and tenderness, and that’s how it’s done. You can order a rare steak and get medium. I still like thin dough well done when it comes to pizza though, New York pizza basically.

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              This is more of a problem with the pizza places around you and I’m sorry they’re doing your area so dirty :(

              But across 3 states for me, the pizza places you expect their quality to be is the quality I’ve generally gotten (like little Caesars is bottom tier and then local good places are top tier etc)

              I hope your pizza joints get their head out of their asses so you can get good pizza delivered again lol

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                I really don’t think it’s my area. I’ve traveled all around the world the past few years, three countries in Europe, two coasts of Mexico, Belize, Honduras, and 9+ different US states. After Covid every pizza place just stopped cooking their pizza as long. Don’t get me wrong! The flavor is still fantastic at all my local pizza joints and the high end pizza places I’ve tried elsewhere. But they’re cutting corners with cook time, even if you tell them well done. And it started with Covid and raising prices because they could. They were selling more than they could cook so they normalized short cook times and people got ok with it. Except me and my wife. We’re like the only people that noticed this crazy decline in pizza quality.

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        I’d rather use a laundry that picks up and delivers folded clothes than get food delivered.

        You’re allowed to use paper plates and throw them away after one use.

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            [off topic]

            There’s a fascinating history of laundry in America.

            During the Gold Rush, they’d ship laundry from San Francisco to Hawai’i because that was the cheapest option.

            “Chinese Hand Laundry” was ubiquitous for decades in American cities. Back in the day, laundry was ‘women’s work,’ and men would rather work in sewers than lower themselves to do it. The Chinese immigrants were happy with any work, and created their own niche.

            Around 1950 they polled American men and women about the greatest invention of the 20th Century. The men mostly picked the car; the women went for the washing machine.

            Now I’ve cleared out my brain for a while…

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        Pro tip. Go to the laundromat. They have 75gallon machines. You can do a whole months worth of laundry in 1 go for a whole family. 30 minutes wash, 30-60 minutes dry. 1 afternoon, clothes for a month.

        Or do drop off service, which costs 10x more, but you don’t have to do anything. Some even pickup/deliver

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    This meme is as American as it gets.

    Cooking your own food is pretty normal in most of the rest of the world, regardless of generation nonsense.

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      I’d say that it’s more of an economical difference than a cultural one. Rich people will always order (they don’t have time to cook) and their kids are not taken care of by them (not cooked for) so they order too.

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    I think what’s missing from the discussion is that virtually no-one is getting food delivery every day.

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    Millennial here, cooking your own food is “cheap af” now? I tell you, fresh produce and meat ain’t cheap where I live! My food tastes better than takeout anyway, f that noise. 😄

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    Meh. I like to cook and it’s far better than the uber eats slop that I need to reheat that I just spent $35 plus tip on which would have cost me $14 to just eat at the restaurant but I wanted the free fries and bogo burger when I spent $30.

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      For reals. Why does my passion for good food make me feel old instead of just a healthy habit that most people could partake in despite their age

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    Cheapass Genx here. We’re admittedly too lazy to cook ourselves and prefer to spend that time on hobbies instead.

    But food-delivery got so bad AND expensive here (Germany) that we switched to hiring a cook instead. He passionately loves his work, we love the food, everyone’s happy.

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        I hate wasting money on useless bad stuff and take a looooong time to decide on investments starting at one buck. That defines a cheap ass, does it not? Investing in people though is never wasted money. At least to me. One less person that needs to endure a horrible boss. And we (and him) get nice food.

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              You may be cheapass, although I don’t see how, but you are definitely also loaded.

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                I turn every buck around if that investment is worth it. Literally starting at one Euro. I would never e.g. get a coffee at Starbucks (or wherever) for 10 bucks as I could have 50 cups at home for that. I have two pair of shoes, two pants and just a handful shirts. I’ve been told to be a horrible cheapskate a thousand times.

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                  I can relate to that, partially. Sadly I’m impulsive and will eat out or order food (I can’t afford to hire a cook anyway lol), but I tend to own one pair of shoes, a pair of jeans, 2-3 pairs of shorts and a handful of black t-shirts. All my socks are the same so I don’t have to throw out a pair if one sock develops a hole (socks are a bit of an expense for me, I don’t get the cheapest ones because those start smelling really quickly for me for some reason)