Anyone else notice that thumbs down is back, there just isn’t a counter. I’ve seen it for a few weeks now.
I’d be surprised if it did anything.
I’m pretty sure it never was different tho I usually use a plugin that shows thumbs-downs. It’s basically guessing for new videos so it’s not really useful but still
I’m pretty sure it counts the dislikes of the people who also have the extension installed, and extrapolates from that.
I thought it never left? They just didn’t show the number of dislikes to anyone other than the channel who made the video (without plugins, revanced etc).
They just hiding performance metrics because they know it affects viewing habits, right?
Problem with the stars system is that people with RTL languages use it backwards. So you’ll often get 1 start with a positive feedback.
All I want to say is:
I rarely like any video so much that I want to give it a solid 👍
Its also pretty rare for 👎
But I’ll rate stuff on a scale of ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ every day of the week.
Also, hiding 👎 is completely brain-dead stupid.
Also, hiding 👎 is completely brain-dead stupid.
I think, it depends on the platform. The reason why many platform don’t show them is the constant negativity simply caused by different opinions.
40 people agree with your post, 60 don’t agree… I call that pluralism. But showing a -20 for example could motivate the person to delete their post, which leads to echo chambers.
My Lemmy instance does not show any downvotes by the way and I like it. If one disagrees with me, they can leave a comment.
You can’t see it, but more people disagree with you than agree with you.
Just FYI.
You’re entitled to your opinion, and you like what you like. So don’t worry, be happy.
For context, when I looked, there were less than 5 votes. So “more people” is really just “a couple of dogs”.
(Oh, wait, on the Internet, no one is supposed to know you’re a dog)
Woof.
I’m on the fence with the thumbs vs stars. On one hand, a boolean is probably better than an integer for a number of reasons. Another thing to consider is that the five star system can be gamed by only giving 0 or 5 depending on if you believe the content deserves a higher or lower average, meaning people who figure that out have more voting power… which is… better?
Doesn’t this apply only if you are looking at mean average exclusively? There are loads of other metrics you can look at based on scalar ratings.
There also used to be a response button of sorts like a review section on playstore. (Or am I remembering things wrong)
Corporation does well: brags about all the statistics Corporation does poorly: hides all the statistics and asks customers to trust it that it’s doing well
Classic corporate transparency. When a filthy corpo says they’re dedicated to something, they’re usually dedicated to the opposite.
Funny enough the dislike button is there but hidden. You can get extensions that show the thumbs down button and how many clicked it.
I’ve wondered about those. I always assumed they’d just show the down votes by others with the same extension.
Yes but extrapolated
In my experience, the extension is INCREDIBLY good. Whenever I get a shady video, it has dislikes, and normal videos almost never have any significant amount of dislikes. They’re as accurate as they can be but it’s more than enough to be useful.
The dislike button would be a godsend with all this ai slop.
It is. Tho thankfully AI never makes it’s way into my feed.
I can confirm. Really useful, I almost forgot it’s suppose to be hiden.
Apparently the extensions aren’t reliable at all. I saw a video at one point where a guy went over why you cannot trust the extensions and how the numbers are pure fiction, but I forget the exact reasons. I think one example was that the same video would have vastly differnet numbers of down votes depending on the person with the extension. Something something confirmation bias.
For me, it doesn’t really matter. I still down vote when I dislike a video. They may not count my vote at all, but I still do it out of stubbornness.
They actually do count it but it’s only visible to the uploader
Also, from what I understand about specifically ReturnYoutubeDislikes it counts dislikes FROM people using the extension and uses that to extrapolate from the visible like count. I haven’t seen the video though so it’s definitely possible that’s all bunk
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Unfortunately, a lot of content is still exclusive to YouTube. Every now and then I try to look for the things I watch on Nebula or Odysee, but they’re just not there. Only a handful of channels that mirror their content + some specials on Nebula.
We can always politely ask our favourite content creators to upload their stuff on other platforms, but the success rate is disappointing.
The like/dislike system is better than stars IMO.
Next step: you must have a camera enabed to use YouTube so we can directly monitor your facial expressions with AI✨ and save you precious rating time to recommend you better videos!
But really so we can ensure you’re watching the ads.
I know I am not alone here, because Lemmy and all, but holy god damn does that little AI sparkle trigger me more than any other AI term or image.
Look! It’s a sparkle! Nothing bad could be related to that at all!
It’s so dumb. Just let people rate it with the five stars. They’re so gun-ho with the algorithm let it do its job.
The thumbs up/thumbs down thing was fine too.
It’s all bots anyway
They don’t want you knowing what other people think of the video. It’s just about what you think of the video. Much easier to have an algorithmically perfect echo chamber if everyone is privately rating things and has no idea what others think about them.
Advertisers forgetting that every person is an accumulation of other pelople influencing their behavior
Wouldn’t the simplest solution be to only expose the other ratings after you rate?
Well it isn’t beneficial for the company because people might realize they hold unpopular opinions and the company wants to be able to control the people’s opinions regardless of popularity, that way they can keep users on the site engaging with that content for longer.
But then how do you stop people clicking to see first, locking them in? But then how do you deal with missclicks?
I’m pretty sure that 99% of the time 1 and 5 stars options were used, so like/dislike is enough. There isn’t much point in including a “I have no strong feelings one way or another” button.
Sure there is: A known quantity is always better than an unknown quantity. Though would be far more informative if rating was mandatory, or otherwise defaulted to 3 stars or some such.
Then just assume that video that hasn’t been interacted with is 3 stars, same result. I could see there being an additional like above regular one, like love our something. But YT now kinda has the hype feature which I suppose does a similar job.
The final stage is not caring at all what you think user. Only consume.
Great movie btw. But this just gave me the perfect idea for an ad blocker, that would replace all the ads with these type of signs.
Someone smarter than, get on it!
what movie?
They Live (1988)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Adblock/comments/70xaqa/a_they_live_adblocker_details_in_comments/
This uses Catblock with a custom image set, but Catblock hasn’t been updated in 6 years, so I don’t know how well it still works. Trying to figure out if ublock could do this. Anyway, if Catblock won’t work, we have to find a blocker that allows for some customization and then fit those “They Live” images in.
(I’m trying to get Catblock to work, but somehow I can’t find any pages that even load ads? I think the pihole is blocking the scripts that would load the ads.)
Your PiHole probably is (blocking the ads). Shoutout to the PiHole team!
Like reverse google glasses ?
I get the first step. You don’t watch a video and have the urge to tell the world that it was neither good nor bad. I think they moved to stars because everyone just gave 1 or 5 eitherway
Yeah, that’s not definitely not on YouTube, the final ‘star score’ was effectively indicative only of the ratio of the 5-stars to the 1-stars. The infinitesimal minority that would actually thoughtfully rate 2, 3, or 4 stars made no difference at all.
Every video that I ever saw with a like:dislike ratio like the one in frame 2 was being brigaded for reasons unrelated to video quality.
When Blizzard said “Do You Guys Not Have Phones?” the problem was obviously not the quality of the video presented, it was the topic at hand and made perfect sense to have all the dislikes. It makes no sense to take that away from users.
I mean, was it even supposed to be related to quality? If I dislike the content of a video I’m going to hit dislike even if it’s well made.
But yeah, I guess the ratios were usually from brigading.
