Edit: Oops, it is /r/Tennessee, not /r/ProgressiveHQ
I’m deeply offended that you’re posting Steve’s personal propaganda claiming he’s a comedian.
The guy literally does comedy tours. I guess I’ll just go ahead and buy those tickets…
You would torture yourself to make a point on Lemmy?
Please, go right ahead.
I saw him recently. I had a blast!
That is depressing.
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Why? Isn’t he a comedian?
No, but he does play one on YouTube.
Define comedian. If you make money off doing comedy or are attempting to I would call you a comedian.
Steve is both intelligent and funny. This person is just shitty.
I know who he is I’ve liked his stuff before I’m just trying to back them into a corner where they have to admit they are so self obsessed they think only their sense of humor is “correct”.
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This is why Reddit is garbage and anyone that still has an account on there is only fueling the fire. Fuck Reddit and their mods
Reddit’s glory days were when it was big enough to have consistently interesting stuff, especially in the niche subs, but not so big that bad actors (corporatization, foreign influence, domestic partisan bots, hate groups) could enshitify it. Now it’s practically unusable.
Ice soap and 2AM chili were peak reddit.
Knowledge is power. France is bacon.
Stupid long horse.
Monacles and narwhales!
I hope you realize Lemmy is just as bad, maybe even worse
Shirley, you jest…
(and yeah, am calling you Shirley…)
We have MAGA mods suppressing voter turnout?
We have .ml propaganda blaming our only hope of resistance for everything the Nazis do.
It’s not much different from the projection tactic the GOP use. Just in this case it’s “you didn’t stop it”.
But lemmy allows for various viewpoints unlike reddit which is mostly run by the same mods in every large subreddit.
Many instances defederated .ml and you can block the instance.
That’s fair.
There’s also a handful of users on other instances that love bashing the dems for not being left enough or something. These are just a few nutters, not really moderators pushing agendas.
Those nutters are sometimes mods. Try criticizing Stalin on any lm community, see how fun.
Ml dont have much influence and we can easily remove them by blocking or defederating them because no one controls lemmy and that is the beauty of lemmy.
that’s a bingo
Because obviously only MAGA can be bad people. Yeepee China and Russian number one!
/s needed because we’re on Lemmy
I’m not sure if you’re American, but for me as an American Maga impacts my life many times more than china or Russia so maga’s evil is far more relevant in my life. But either way you are doing a lot of whataboutism.
The comment I was responding to pretty much said the only abuse is about MAGA stuff. As for whataboutism, idk how you can do better
I’m not in the USA.
I finally left the platform entirely a few months ago, but for a time I maintained an account for discussion on hobby and niche topics. Nothing political, and it would be a real stretch to call any of it controversial. After I got a very dubious account suspension, I just said “fuck it” and moved on.
Can’t say I miss it either. It’s a fucking cesspool.
I get so mad whenever I see a post hating on Reddit, but yet they are still there and making posts. Like wtf, Lemmy is great, a lot more people should’ve migrated here, but it’s like they like the abuse.
You think Lemmy is better? Mods here are engaging in the same shitty behaviours. Lack of moderator accountability is a serious issue on this platform.
Edit: brigading just proves my point, you dumb fucks.
i mean lemmy def is better. we dont have one ahole controlling everything here.
Modding attracts a certain type.
As part of the LW Community Team, I’ve tried to combat this in a couple ways.
One is that when we need moderators for a community I don’t just put up a post that says “who wants to mod?” Instead I try to draft specific individuals one at a time who are relevant to that community.
You wouldn’t believe how many people just tell me no. They have time to post to Lemmy a dozen times a day, but they just don’t have time to mod c/threepostsaweek
The other is that I try not to just keep recruiting mods we already have. It’s very easy to turn to the people already doing the modding and ask them to pick up just one more, but we’ve seen what that has done to Reddit, and I’d rather not repeat it.
But all this takes time and effort, and it doesn’t seem to have much effect yet. I probably just need to keep at it.
Exactly
Public mod log is a big accountability improvement over the absence of information Reddit has
But really it’s a human problem. As long as humans get power, they will misuse it. Perhaps not all, but some will.
The key is to prevent any one human (or associated group) from gaining too much power. With limited exceptions, it ends poorly.
Remember when the person behind GamingOnLinux decided to leave Lemmy after someone pointed out their community manipulation tactics in the modlog? Something that you have to assume they had been able to get away with as a Reddit mod. They then took to Mastodon or something to complain about how a modlog being public is “bad design”.
What kind of agenda would a GamingOnLinux powermod push?
IMO the biggest flaw is that the mod log doesn’t append a copy of the content that was deleted. It allows mods to just straight up lie.
From what I have seen, removed comments definitely are still visible in the modlog. But if the mod just bans the user instead of removing the comment, all the user’s comments are automatically removed as a result and are not visible in the modlog. All that said, you are correct, this can be abused by moderators who understand the distinction and take advantage of it.
I absolutely have observed mods on Lemmy engaging in the same shitty behaviors (I am sitting on a post about a little cabal of !progressivepolitics@lemmy.world people who seem to be trying to rig the discourse in a particular direction to meet their electoral goals). But the simple fact of it being less centralized and more transparent (and with more of a culture of effective pushback against the mods) makes it a lot harder. They can’t just say “lol get fucked” like the mod from this post did and have that be the end of the story.
Plus federation means that the admins can’t just step in and shut down any competing communities unless they are on their instance. And if that happens, it just starts up on another instance.
I’ve seen the mod in that community delete comments that simply disagreed with them or called out their deletions. It’s always “harassment” or something no matter how polite people are being.
Honestly yes, I have not had much problems with mods (and admins!) deleting the words I’ve taken time out of my day to write.
Free Luigi Mangione!
You’ve been lucky.
I’ll give it more time then. I spent years on Reddit and intend to spend years here.
That’s why Reddit is the shit hole it is.
Reddit is so wild now, man. I got a three day site-wide ban for commenting on a LAMF thread about Mitch McConnell not liking the direction of the Republican party now even though he was one of the architects. My comment agreed. Apparently I was harassing Mitch McConnell.
Why can a mod in one subreddit ban someone from the whole site?
Wow we can’t even criticize our politicians anymore? Land of the free, my ass. And fuck reddit, toxic wasteland.
I’ve checked the Tennessee subreddit and it doesn’t seem very active. The first post is 17h old and about the special election. The news article that was posted, is not positive for the republican party. The reddit comments are overwhelmingly against Van Epps. The post itself was posted by a mod. https://old.reddit.com/r/Tennessee/comments/1pajj2w/tennessee_congressional_race_becomes_unlikely/
This doesn’t look like a rightwing echo chamber to me. Maybe the outsider that was calling for action, was removed because they take their rule about removing agitators seriously. Imo there may still be a problem of too strict modding, because of how inactive the subreddit looks.
Man, fuck reddit. If you aren’t a conservative anything can get you modded or banned.
Its fucking wild seeing people still talking about how biased reddit is against people on the right. Go onto any big subreddit and you’ll see their no politics rule means no left wing politics.
got to fan that flame as much as you can, the entire US right-wing identity is built around making “the left” suffer.
It worked to keep gun sales hugely high volume and high profit for decades. “The dems are about to take away your right to buy guns, go buy them now while you can! We’ve said this every election for the last thirty years, but this time it’s serious!”
It sucks so bad that it’s such a long-term effective strategy. Fighting it would mean figuring out how to regulate both social and traditional media to reduce engagement bait lies, but I don’t know if we have a path to that.
Yup. They whine constantly when they’re the ones getting left alone to say whatever horrible racist shit they want.
Same with Lemmy but in reverse…
Given that conservatism is just bigotry in a trench coat, I’ve no issue there.
Structurally, I don’t think anything is stopping a conservative safe space community from being spun up on one of the more neutral instances. But if conservatives have mainstream safe spaces already on x, Facebook, reddit, and smaller more extreme places like patriot.win, why would they come to lemmy?
“Conservative” can mean a really wide variety of things to people who identify that way. Like the other reply to you, I am not sad there aren’t lemmy communities dedicated to celebrating bad things happening to brown or non-Christian people. But it does seem like a hole to be missing discussions of fiscal responsibility (actual responsibility, not the “two Santas” scam) or how to effectively increase the proportion of children in two-parent households (actual increase, not the “redirect welfare money from poor people to middle-class marriage counseling”).
US conservatism broadly used to have policy pieces I agreed with, but the fake implementation in the times and places they have had power has made me really disillusioned.
From
The start page of the internet
To:
this tiny little corner on the internet
Reddit sure has come far
Front page, I believe was what they called themselves. But yeah, it’s been a glorious fall.
Taking the Facebook and Twitter route
At one point it was a glorious place. Then 5 people became admins and mods of the most popular 100 sub reddits and began controlling the narrative to fit their beliefs. In my opinion reddit has been dead for at least 5 years now
Way longer than that. The rot was evident during 2015/2016 election cycle. Narrative crafting and political astroturfing for days. The last 5 years or show has just illustrated how unhinged the admins and mods of major subs are
Haven’t been to Tennessee, I went to Louisville Kentucky, I hated it there. It was like going back in time, all white people in suits, the only black person was homeless. The homeless guy was moving place to place so shop owners wouldn’t have time to harass him. Nothing like a fancy meal in a high class restaurant full of well off white dudes and a homeless black guy outside the window.
Typical reddit situation. When someone does something the GOP doesn’t like, it’s spam or fake news.
Wow what a cunt of a mod
All Reddit mods are cunts. No exceptions.
We MUST Protect Jeffrey Epstein!
-Republicans!
We need to stop attacking pedophiles!
- Ted Cruz
*Can we
But yeah fuck Raphael
“Well, I do mind because I motherfucking live here, and I’m not having a good day. So how about you stop being a fucking knob and answer my question?”
Me too. What district?Is it a senatpr? I’m drowning in hopelessness over here.
I am not, haha, sorry. That was just my hypothetical response.
What’s another child Fucker on reddit.
They’re a mod committing election interference.
You mean a potential trump administrator?
On one hand, I think this is why social media should be introduced to governments in an “official” capacity, kinda like how former Presidents and other officials would use twitter as a way to reach the masses about important news or whatever. There should be “official” accounts that are tied to certain positions that would be used to moderate different communities, such as city- or state-wide ones like r/Tennessee.
But then, there’s the whole deal of America very quickly spiraling into fascism.
This is where the fediverse could shine. For example, the House of Representatives could have a server, and each member would have a username on that server. Much like how email currently works. It wouldn’t be beholden to the whims of a corporation.
As a gay black man…
Does it have to be feta? What about BlueCheeseProto?
Ah, you caught that before my edit. The pleasures of voice-to-text.
Exactly. Like a state-run online community moderated by federal or state workers. That way it would still be kept on-topic but (hopefully) without the power-tripping that usually happens with free-market moderators.
Ideally there’d be some kind of supervisor/admin above them that they’d report to.
But again, run by the state and not a company.
But you see how Trump installs his own people in federal jobs and fires people he disagrees with…
I acknowledged that in my original comment
No outside political agitators (This is a broad one, but if we look at your post history and all you do is spam geographical subs stirring the political cauldron we will remove your post and ban you from this sub)
The lesson on Reddit (if you still use that platform) is to hide your history. I’m guessing they used this rule for the ban. Bans from subs should exclusively be for content posted on that sub. If something is bad enough to warrant a sitewide ban, that is another matter.
Anyhow, there are is another post about the election: https://old.reddit.com/r/Tennessee/comments/1p36q6s/millions_pour_into_tennessee_special_election/
You are guessing, but they already said why, so we have no need to guess.
This raises the question: Is there somebody else on that sub posting about the special election? There should be enough Tennesseans that at least one of them should post there.
Blue dots in a sea of red. I’m in a similar political geography and you see a similar pattern.
I’m sure there’s been quite a few posts, but they just don’t last.
Reddit is sort of dead.
That history can be made visible on the new layout with the complicated hack of going to the profile page, and using the search bar to search for a space or an asterisk.
Lol, what a garbage site. They have so many different layouts and versions of the site that I’m not surprised they fucked up on (at least) one of them.
The more complicated you make something, the more room you are giving yourself to fuck up.
So better lesson on Reddit: just don’t bother with it.
