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    Love to see it

    3.2% is like 5 million active users if Steam overall has 156 million active users, but they’re likely higher than that

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    Gaben embracing Arch has been great for Arch in general. I can’t even remember the last time my Arch install crashed.

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      Been using Arch for daily driver, web server, large data analytics machine, gaming, music making, programming, visual design and a while lot more for 15 years now. The only time I’ve had an issue with something in the official repos was when freecad was compiled with a version of a library that wasn’t compatible with a very specific thing I wanted to do and I had to recompile it. That’s it. 15 years. One issue. Not sure that even this Gaben fellow could improve on that…

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      Now that zypper has been pulled into the modern age with parallel & faster downloading, the only complaint remaining I have for it is the installer itself

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        I kind of liked the installer, but that is because I am a huge Fallout fan and liked the black with green theme you could use when I installed it about a year ago… I am but a simple person… lol :P

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      Really wanna try a perma switch from Fedora just cuz they include a nice grub theme lmao.

      Plus I like that its proper rolling instead of staged releases.

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        Even though I think it’s generally frowned upon to use, I use GRUB Customizer from the Discover Store, and change the theme to a Fallout style one, if that would be easier for you to use!

        I’ve had one or two hiccups when updating openSUSE Tumbleweed. Once was just a normal update, back then I was doing it weekly since I basically only game on my desktop, but it completely broke my graphics for whatever reason. I have an NVIDIA GPU, so I attribute it to that.

        Luckily, Tumbleweed has that snapper component, and I used it for the first time. Absolutely amazing I could just run that and then be back in a working state at the shake of a lambs tail. I just started updating monthly after that, and so far, no hiccups!

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      openSUSE is GOAT.

      I’m a CachyOS shill, and I’d recommend Tumbleweed to anyone. It’s criminal that folks use stuff like Ubuntu or Manjaro over it.

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        I chuckled when I saw Manjaro of all things on there, and not my beloved OS of choice! lol

        For real, though, openSUSE is truly something to rave about, as far as I am concerned! :)

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    should be a market for ‘old’ hardware with linux. just drop them in a web browser and most can’t tell the difference. like a chromebook. win11 is just pushing people to buy new hardware. let em. other reasons to upgrade hardware

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    I am waiting for SteamOS Desktop to be released before switching. I want the support of an 800lb corporate gorilla, that prioritizes gaming. I use mods and play niche games, so I need a Linux that balances casual users while allowing for some power user stuff.

    I already know about Bazzite and Cachy, but again, I want the support of a focused giant who won’t die or change hands.

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      I respect that. Tho do remember this is opensource instead of a traditional system.

      Any improvement to steamos will improve bazzite and any improvement to bazzite will improve steamos.

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        Which is good. It is just that I don’t have much patience for troubleshooting, I prefer to just game or work. For me, I would stick to Windows if it weren’t for Microsoft likely being a bad actor.

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      ‘won’t die’ ? I mean Gabe is great, but I don’t think he’s immortal.

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        Granted. I really hope he is raising a protege to take the helm when the time comes, or divides up the Steam Kingdom and lets the best folk win.

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      I’ve been gaming on Arch (btw) since 2013 and only had minor issues I could resolve with a bit of googling.

      Things have only gotten better over the years. Steam will just work on pretty much any distro as it has its own runtime.

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        I don’t do just Steam. As said before, I sometimes use mods or play niche games, such as ones that require Japanese locale, Windows v3.1, GOG games, and so forth. While I am not a true power user, my needs definitely go beyond Steam alone. I had tried out Mint a year ago, Hero, Lutris, Mini Galaxy, and so forth failed to work smoothly with my games.

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            Asian games, both perverse and standard. Translation patches don’t necessarily make the internal workings of a game able to run on English locale. As to specific games, I don’t recall at the moment - I play too many.

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          Nowadays it’s super simple, with Lutris or another launcher. But you can still make Steam launch those too, with Proton.

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      I have doubts that Valve will officially support SteamOS on anything but their own hardware (and maybe some partners’), in which case unless you plan on buying a Steam Machine you’re going to be stuck for a very, very long time.

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        Valve said they want SteamOS to work on every PC. My guess is, they will release a more PC friendly version some time soonish after Steam Machine releases.

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    awesome!

    I’m curious as to how much profit is lost by M$ or Apple for each basis point of the market that switches to Linux.

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        I’ve read the same thing but I’ll bet a dollar that no one using Linux is paying for any Microsoft cloud services.

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          That would essentially mean the only reason to use Linux over Windows is ideological opposition to Microsoft, which is sheer nonsense.

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          Some people use Linux but don’t mind about Microsoft

          Ex: a lot of people in computer science

          I noticed a lot of students use Linux for their studies because in CS we pretty much only use Linux, but they run Windows at home or they solely run Linux for studying so they don’t care about the rest

          They would’ve stayed with Windows if it provided the same features and full compatibility

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          As a somewhat side fact, most of Microsoft’s own cloud services are running on Linux. This fact nudges me to believe the opposite of your conclusion. That is to say, changing your OS doesn’t necessarily change the software you use.

          That said, I would be very surprised if Microsoft’s cloud offerings were as popular among Linus users.

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      Apple probably isn’t seeing it as a factor. Anyone switching from MacOS to Linux on Apple hardware has purchased Apple hardware and will likely continue doing so because they’re the kind of people who buy Apple products and you can’t change that about a person.

      Of those Windows users switching to Linux, how many of them have decided to stop using a Windows license they’ve had for years? Instead of upgrading to 11 for free, they’re switching to Linux? Or, how many of them are rocking the Activate Windows watermark? There’s probably a pittance or two lost in ad revenue, but Microsoft almost isn’t a B2C company anymore.

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        Apple probably isn’t seeing it as a factor. Anyone switching from MacOS to Linux on Apple hardware has purchased Apple hardware and will likely continue doing so because they’re the kind of people who buy Apple products and you can’t change that about a person.

        When they are ready for a new computer, are they going to spend double to buy Mac hardware when they specifically want a Linux machine? Many will say no.

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          We’re at a point in history where an Apple computer is kind of difficult to recommend as a Linux box because they’ve pulled off of x86. Gaming. On Linux. On Apple Silicon. I bet you can do it, the Asashi or whatever people have done a remarkable job of reverse engineering from no published documentation at all from what I hear. But, we’re several generations of Apple Silicon in, I imagine the people who have jumped ship for Linux have done so by now, leaving the blue bubble brigade to themselves.

          Remember, to many people, that Apple badge on the lid of that laptop isn’t just a billboard for a company you don’t own, it’s the badge of an in-group. There are entire states in the union where they won’t let you buy food if you’ve got a Samsung phone. It’s now government policy in Israel.

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      These are private computers for gaming with Steam installed. This will literally be less than pocket change to them. They likely lose more from pirated Windows and secondhand purchasers of Apple products.

      The amount of money tech giants lose will not be affected for a long time. The main achievement for Linux right now would be to get a foothold, to make it known to the public, to normalise its use. The big change will come when organisations start moving to Linux (which you would think would be a priority considering the fact that it is free and more secure).

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        which you would think would be a priority considering the fact that it is free and more secure

        And regularly used across their back end already.

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        Probably needs more corporate spyware which Linux users aren’t likely to tolerate.

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      Till that number starts hitting like 15% because these are just private users. These big companies aren’t even going to be able to notice the shift.

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    3.20% is practically nothing but everyone in here is foaming at the mouth like this means windows is done or something. very weird behavior

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    Linux use on steam has also passed mac use. The three most popular mac versions are still used by more than the 3 most popular linux versions, but the total for macs is under 3%.

    And for me personally, I didn’t even have to give anything of value up to make the switch. I kept my old windows machine in a running condition as a backup, but I think I’m about ready to start retiring that machine entirely, at least as a windows machine.