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Tenet isn’t terribly difficult to explain, though it’s been too long since I’ve seen it for me to do it now. I remember watching it and being able to say, ok, it’s not airtight, but I know what Nolan was trying to do with the movie at least. It’s a very interesting idea, but while the execution has a normal amount of plot holes, they’re exacerbated by a story that uses what seem like plot holes as a story device.
It hurts our brains because effect is preceding cause, and because most sci-fi stories with time travel use it in the same way as they might use a space ship: to travel to a different place that has only tangential effects on the main location (even though they may make a big noise about the Butterfly Effect, in reality it’s rarely that severe) or to make nonsense shenanigans happen (things that have no basis in logic from any direction). Tenet actually did come up with a really interesting concept, and tried to give it interesting stakes, but got distracted by the shiny of “backwards bullets” and so let the logic suffer.
I didn’t find TENET confusing at all. I feel like it makes perfect sense if you actually pay attention.
I have always found it weird whenever people say they don’t get TENET, Inception or Interstellar on their first watch. I thought the plot were simple enough to understand.
Right? They were pretty easy to follow. So easy that I’ve noticed about a dozen plotholes in them. Maybe these plotholes were confusing people, because they thought there would be a good explanation to them, that they are not getting. Nope, there aren’t. They are just full of plotholes.
I could follow just fine. I just found it a not very good movie. It was convoluted for the sake of being convoluted.
good guy save pretty girl good movie
I said that after watching it.
The sci-fi element really didn’t add anything to the story it could have just been a fun blockbuster action flick and it would have worked fine.
But then it would be any other film, not a Christopher Nolan one ;)
The movie was Christopher Nolan saying “Look how hard I can Christopher Nolan this movie. No one has ever Christopher Nolaned so hard.” At least for me.
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Neither did I. It’ not that good but not confusing
Conceptually, sure. But the last big setpiece made no sense from a visual perspective. I feel like you would need to show an overhead view of the map simultaneously, to actually keep track of what was happening.
It wasn’t confusing but the logic of its mechanics weren’t consistent. I think some people thought there was logic to follow, hence the confusion.
Yeah that scene where he’s needlessly fighting himself made complete sense. If you see yourself coming up to you with an intent to fight a battle you’ve already fought, confront yourself nevertheless as it’s way easier than just showing your identity.
BWAAAAHM
My wife is the worst about asking a question during a movie or TV show that gets answered within like 30 seconds of her asking. We call it pulling a [wife’s name]
WHy was Jesse digging a hole with Tucker? TUCKER!!!
I love that kind of stuff. Both me and my wife do it, then we theory craft. We try to guess twists before they’re revealed.
This obviously doesn’t work well without subtitles.
All I can think of re Nolan is the inception south park episode.
‘and then it’s like du du du du da da da da gnnarr bang pew du du du du’
Because Nolan makes fun films unwatchable with awful mixing and his cringe attempts at writing. If only he’d let the experts do their jobs and just direct.
Yes but sometimes I miss that information or it’s obvious to other people and not me. So sometimes, I ask my partner.
Sure, but the scene is the first scene of the movie. There is nothing you can miss.
Except of course if you know anything about the movie or what it is about, but then it should be kinda obvious why they are shooting at the dog…
Or if you speak Norwegian. They’re yelling spoilers the Americans can’t understand.
This is why my typical response is “we don’t know yet” or, if I’ve seen it already “they haven’t told/showed us yet”
My ex used to do this. We be watching a film, and then she’d start playing with her phone, then she would look up from her phone after about 10 minutes and say, “what’s happening”. I still maintain that there is no more of an aggravating personality trait.
Nope, I’ve got one worse: My father.
Watching a movie. A character is introduced.
My dad: Oh look who that is, it’s Fleeg Fleegerson. He was in, ooooooh, that movie with Heeb Leebert and Dick Tickle where the bad guys hold an airliner hostage as a misdirection for robbing it? Sky Hard? Yeah. And he died in the sequel. His dad used to be John Wayne’s shoe shiner’s understudy, married Cla Cla Rodrigruez, Fla Fla’s sister. You ever seen any of Fla Fla Rodriguez’s movies? She made 445 films between the age of 5 and 11 as the singing dancing child thing that didn’t get a real upbringing or childhood and they starved her so she’d stay short and it messed up her bones, and they gave her a gallon of laudanum a day for the pain, and then once she grew up she got typecast as a femme fatale in noir movies. She died in 2009 of huge pox, I hated to hear that.
Also my dad: So now where are they going?
My adhd brain when I watch a movie
At least I don’t do it when watching a movie with others
It’s amazing how many times I’ll rewatch a movie and go oh he was in Star Trek. I don’t know actors.
Then you get the odd actor like Bill Nye (not that one) who’s just in everything, and you don’t notice because he’s so imbued the role.
Good to know you’ll have a flashing red light if he ever starts to develop dementia
What, if he ever actually watches a movie?
Haha no. If he can’t recite the most esoteric, inane facts in an unending chain of blather
This is partner. It’s like a tic. It’s actually amazing to watch. It’s like they become possessed by the spirit of cinema and start babbling about the most obscure trivia you’ve ever heard.
Fortunately, I love it.
Well that does sound annoying. I don’t fuck with my phone during a film except to look up actors, so I am more talking about garden variety stupidity.
First act: confusion. Third act: payoff. Cinema, baby.
I had a friend once who, if I’d seen a film and they hadn’t, would ask me questions every few minutes throughout the movie about things it was foreshadowing but hadn’t fully shown yet. If not being omniscient is that painful, run to the bathroom, read the plot summary on Wikipedia, and come back – ruin the film for yourself on your own time.
After the third question, I would explain the plot and ending. They learned to stop asking.
When this happens to me, I think it’s a bit of a mental decision between “They’re going to explain it, it’s meant to be mysterious now.” and “They explained it poorly”.
Biggest pet peeve is when the plot centers on one key character that people only talk about, and you never see. Or when one key piece of information is muttered in a heavy accent during five other things happening.
I of course love the former. I’ve been burnt by the latter many times, like “Oh, I should’ve rewound the movie.”
The scene in question is the opening scene of the film. It is fully explained pretty early in the second act. Definitely intended to be the “mysterious” option in this case.
Chekhov’s dog: if it shows up in Act 1, it’s definitely not just going for a walk.
I swear I’m going to, start forcefully, inserting commas in wrong, places.
If you
write a sentence
split into multiple
lines
it sounds
like you got
asthma
sucks to your assmar
Needlessly convoluting the message! Just like a Nolan movie! You sly dog, you.
I read this like William Shatner in my head.
ME: I dunno Hon, let’s watch and find out.
THE HON: [Pulls out phone to look it up] Siri says it’s because …
I’m never watching Mulholland Drive with that bitch.
Or Momento.
Or Momento.
yeah, physicists can’t make good movie…
Everybody talking about Tenet and I’m just here wondering when the hell there was a theatrical screening of The Thing that I missed. 🫤
It occasionally pops up for Horror Night at my local indie cinema.
Reminds me of my grandmother’s famous cry… in waking up at random times during a movie or TV show
"is he dead yet? "
that is my mom to my dad every time we get together to watch a movie
