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    listen here, canadian, you may like it when your extremities hurt from how fucking cold it is, and love sweating because you have to wear layers to not freeze, but your nose is still cold, but some of us actually like feeling like we’re warm enough and being ok with things being bright, visible, welcoming and comfortable.

    Too hot? just stay indoors between 11 to 3 and you’ll be fine.

    EDIT: Unlike those random ass non summer months when it can rain or be shittier than usual at random, we know when it’s too fucking hot or so sunny it will burn you; it’s the same fucking time every day.

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      Stay inside from 11-3? More like stay inside from May-September.

      I never stop sweating for like four months of the year and hate it.

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      You know that scene from riddick where the guy steps into the sun/desert storm and gets instantly vaporized? Thats what its like here in the summer. Every year my state sends everyone a letter telling them basically not to go outside. Winters are aight, they get a little cold. Coldest i can remember was about -10f or im guessing about -14C

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          I’d rather take the summer mosquitoes. It goes down to as low as -40c/f and I just don’t want to dress in like four layers w/ snowpants, balaklava, boots and all that to do every single thing that requires going outside like taking out the garbage or doing groceries

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      Too hot? just stay indoors between 11 and 3 and you’ll be fine.

      Good thing no one works outdoors and every building has A/C.

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          My dad’s a welder, works outside every day. I asked him, he said obviously it depends on the situation but in general he’d take cold and dry. 1-5 degrees and raining is just about worst case scenario for him. We’re Canadian though so we’re used to the cold, maybe if you asked someone from Florida or something they’d have a different answer.

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            My dad’s a welder,
            he’d take cold and dry. 1-5 degrees and raining is just about worst case scenario for him.

            He’s working with fire. of course he prefers winter.

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      I live in Calgary. The 3 things Calgarians will invariably tell you are: 1) Calgary Olympics was the only profitable one and was well managed. 2) Tennessee barbeque is the greatest. 3) it gets to -40, but it’s not so bad because it’s dry cold.

      Only one of those is unconditionally true.

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          Yup. They used it as an impetus to build public transportation infrastructure, turned the Olympic complex into a winter sporting area, and the athlete dorms into student/affordable housing.

          Since then, public transportation has turned to dog shit for most of the city, but it works well for me. Plenty of people still use the winter sporting infrastructure (I think), and housing still exists even if everything around those areas are getting gentrified, which somewhat of a universal truth.

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      Too hot? just stay indoors between 11 to 3 and you’ll be fine.

      Cries in European (we usually don’t have AC)

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        A dehumidifier plus a “swamp cooler” (a bucket of ice in front of a fan) works pretty well so long as you keep it to one room and only expect it to work for a few hours or so. Otherwise you’ll be buying a lot of ice and doing a lot of work dumping the water from the dehumidifier.

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            Yes, but it’s not a big deal because it only will run once the humidity gets above a certain level - especially if you’re using it to cover multiple rooms where any heat from it running will disperse across a wide area. You set it to something like 60% and it will pop on occasionally for a few minutes to maintain that level.

            In a closed room with a swamp cooler it’s a bit of a different story, but that’s why I recommend that only for a short period of time, a couple of hours at most. Just long enough to cool down yourself and the room.

            So you leave the dehumidifier on all the time on an automatic setting in a central location in the house to keep the air in the house fairly dry, run a swamp cooler late in the afternoon to cool down your room, and if it isn’t too hot and humid outside, open a couple of windows in the house to get some cross ventilation going and air out the house once the sun goes down.

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              Nope. You lose heat by evaporation of water on your skin. If the air is too humid, water can evaporate worse and worse.

              That’s why heat in the Sahara is easier to handle than in the amazon forest.

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                OK, but I’m not talking about making your body temperature drop, I’m talking about feeling cooler. Doesn’t having more stuff in the breeze make it feel cooler?

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                  No. What makes you feel colder is the air moving faster and therefore absorbing sweat off your skin more quickly. If the air is already moist then its capacity for extra heat goes down. You should look up what Wet Bulb Temperature is. In short, it’s when the humidity nears 100%, which prevents the air from absorbing any heat from your body because it’s no longer pulling sweat off of you. At this level of humidity, even special forces units have found themselves incapacitated within hours due to heat stroke during army tests of soldier capabilities in those conditions. There was a heatwave of about 70-80F in the UK a couple of years ago where multiple people died of heat stroke related organ failure because the humidity was so high that their organs couldn’t cool down and overheated until they just stopped working.

                  If you want to cool down, ideally the first step is to get a dehumidifier to pull water out of the air. This is how air conditioners work as well, they pull moisture out of the air which carries heat, and then transfer that heat and moisture somewhere else.

                  In the short term, you can use a “swamp cooler” as an ad hoc air conditioner to help cool down. A swamp cooler is just a big bucket of ice in front of a fan. The ice will cool down the air in front of the fan as it blows over it, allowing it to absorb heat from the rest of the room. This only works short-term though, because it won’t do anything about the humidity in the room and will actually increase the humidity as the ice melts.

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                  Have you ever been in a Turkish sauna? That’s the same principle. Warm water in the air is definitely not pleasant and refreshing.

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                  I don’t know what else to tell you other than “evaporation makes it feel colder”.

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      Too cold? Put on more clothes until you’re warm and cozy.

      Too hot? Keep taking off clothes until you’re just a sweaty naked mess begging for the sweet release of death.

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        Too cold? Put on more clothes until you’re warm and cozy.

        again, different parts are difficult to keep warm, like my nose or my hands and feet. How the fuck am I meant to type with thick gloves on?

        Also, the differing levels of activity and transitions make it awkward, I’m dressed in a thick coat because its cold, and my core starts to get warm because I’m walking , but my arms would be freezing, and when I get to my destination I take of my coat and stench bomb wherever the fuck I am

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          As opposed to being too hot all over and desperate for anything that gives the slightest momentary relief. Not being able stand any activity because movement just makes you hotter and the heat has sapped your will to live. Being sweaty all over no matter what you do because it’s all your body can do to keep you alive.

          Our bodies generate heat. When trying to warm up, physics is on our side. When trying to cool down, we are fighting a losing battle. You’re worrying about typing in gloves while I’m trying to figure how to waterproof my whole system so I can work from my shower.

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        I got 3 layers on inside and my hands are still chilled and my feet bounce from being cold to being sweaty so I’m constantly taking my socks on and off. I was sitting in my office at work with my coat and jacket on for 3 hours yesterday before I got back up to a comfortable temperature after being outside. Also everything just fucking hurts all the time. Fuck this shit. I don’t have issues like this in summer.

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              So just because it has been that way your whole life, without a doctor looking into why, it is an unsolvable problem…? All you’ve said just screams “I want to have this problem because it’s something to complain about”.
              Imagine if a person has had a limp their whole life, they complain about it and other people say “it shouldn’t be like that, it’s not normal and you should get it looked at” and their reply is what you said. See how fucking dumb that is? That’s you.

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                So, say it is some medical issue where my body doesn’t regulate temperature properly, what will they actually be able to do? Make me spend $1000s on diagnostic tests? Put me on an expensive medication that I have to take forever? I live in America, our healthcare is a joke and I’m not going to waste my money on something that isn’t actively killing me. So yeah I’m going to complain.

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              I don’t know, I’m not a doctor. But if it takes 3 hours in a jacket indoors to get warm, there’s potentially an issue going on. Temperature regulation issues could be nothing, or they could be a symptom of an underlying issue.

              My wife is like that and it’s probably the neuropathy from the lupus that no one but her eye doctor believes she has (despite her father and his mother dying from it). Like, if it’s below 78F, she has a jacket on.

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    I was homeschooled and lived in Alabama growing up. I didn’t get summers off, and they were unbearably hot. I honestly kinda hated the summer. But as an adult? I fucking love summer.

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    Hot take: seasons kind of suck. I don’t like all the constant change. The extremes are much worse when you have the perspective of other seasons too. You can adapt and get used to most climates, but it’s a pain in the ass when they keep changing. I lived in the desert for awhile and loved the consistency. So many of our activities and how we dress and what we eat change with the seasons. The consistency of an aseasonal climate really let’s you get into a groove and not be so distracted by the weather.

    I’m aware this is an unpopular opinion, but I encourage anyone that has an opportunity to try it for a year. I think it’s especially grounding for adhd types.

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    Winter and Summer are both too extreme. That leaves Spring and Autumn.

    I hate bugs, and Spring is the ‘buggiest’ season, so for me, Autumn wins by default, lol.

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    Autumn is the best. It’s like spring but dry. It’s like summer but not boiling.

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        Hello fellow rain lover in the UK. I like the rain, and the dark. Walking in the rain on a winter evening is as good as it gets. It’s best when there’s no wind and the sound of the rain changes depending on what it’s falling on. That moment when I move from next to a lake to some trees (as an example) is amazing sound transition.

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      Yeah… i get ya… but for me autumn makes my brain go “Fuck! Its almost winter… Fuck! Its almost winter” Ad inifitum. So for me spring wins cause i know ive got maximum time until the freezing temps make my bones hurt, and patches of ice are sneakily waiting to make me fall…

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    My wife works for the schools and still has summer off. I have two kids in high school and one in college. All summer off. I hate summer. I’m going snow camping the week after Christmas though. Without them.

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        I live in WV. Global warming has allowed those fuckers to THRIVE. I used to play in the woods and get like 5 a summer. I am now older and rarely go beyond a yard and find 3+ each time. I found one on me last month. They usually disappear in September. It’s to the point I’m ready to bite the bullet and buy annoying ass guineas and just let the fuckers roam. I’m not super rural, and I’m sure my neighbors might get mad, but fuuuuck lyme disease.

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    BULLSHIT! We get longer daylight, and the sweat is just a gentle reminder that you aren’t in constant pain from temperatures below 60F. Also there are less snowbirds jamming the roadways.

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      converts 60F to Celsius 60F is genuinely the most comfortablr possible temp for me lol. Even a little too warm if it’s sunny.

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        This answer is too common and very selfish. I wear long sleeves and jeans in Florida summer for protection. Layers are the most inconvenient thing ever! Like, the impracticality of it is rediculous. How about I tell you that you can always cling wrap blocks of ice to your body, you entitled asshole! Yeah, and you can plug your freezer suit into the wall to stay cool. How convenient does that sound?! You’re probably a morning person, too.

        That is getting close to how I feel about the cold. I learned about how people differently experience pain and mine feels cold. So cold weather just feels like pain and it makes me grumpier.

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          I’m a night owl who likes winter, how is that relevant?

          I sympathize though. I think being in Florida is the culprit. It is much nicer when your outside isn’t actively trying to fry you. The humidity makes me feel like a lobster being boiled alive.

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      I’ve lived in temps ranging from 112°F to -23°F. Anything 40°F-85°F is fine by me.

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    God I love autumn. Can chill by the lake with a picnic basket and wait for the stars to come out. Camping when it’s pleasantly cool. Plus those fresh orange leaves, and the beetles in the firelight. Autumn is amazing.

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    I haven’t lived in the south where summer sucks due to the heat. But, I have lived in places where summer drags on too long. Like it starts in March or April and ends in November. By the time it is over, you’re kinda sick of long days, and the expectation to be outside. Winter becomes a nice excuse to not talk to anyone and go to bed early.

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    The sun is out.

    Plants are doing their thing.

    Life is abundant.

    Idk who the fuck actually thinks “yes winter thank god”

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          It isn’t even winter yet and we’ve had four good snows already. We were -19c yesterday morning. I’m in southwest Ohio. Barely anyone around here really believes in global warming outside of the Earth’s natural cycles, because it certainly has not gotten hotter here. Yeah I understand global data vs local data but the lived experience is we’re very often below average temperature. Even summer days at the water park, sometimes it’s pretty chilly to be wet in a swimsuit. We’re at the same latitude as Portugal.

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            Yeah good for you I guess. I am 23 years old and in my lifetime we went from having at least 50cm of snow each winter to barely getting any at all and if we get it it melts due to rain next day. I mean the local lake used to freeze for people go skate. They even drove cars on it 80 years ago. It has frozen once in the last 10-15 years. I barely remember it freezing when I was little.

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      The heat is restrictive.

      Plants are releasing allergens, requring medication and/or extensive exposure therapies.

      Abundance of life can be overwhelming and invasive in the form of road traffic full of boat trailers, pickup flag caravans, and grills and smokers billowing on residential development scales.

      I can regulate my temperature in the cold, where there are barely any allergens that get me and everyone’s holed up inside so I can be outside and in peace more often than not.

      But my ancestors were bog people. If it isn’t misty or foggy in the morning I am genetically obligated to be grouchy until ingesting heated caffiene or complaining about the english.

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      Dead silent moonlit landscapes are just incredible.

      Dry is key, wet and cold winters are awful. Like -6C to -17C is perfect. -6C is practically t-shirt weather. Anything between-3C and 5C (27F-41F) is just misery.

      Living somewhere that the snow stays powdery and it’s -10C on average for 4 months of the winter is awesome!

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        Dry is key, wet and cold winters are awful.

        I think this is a key distinction between the people who generally like one over the other. If you live somewhere where winter is wet and summer is dry, you probably prefer summer. And vice versa.

        The other big thing that I never see anyone talk about is the wind. I think the wind is probably one of the most impactful things for a season. Hot summer with a cool breeze bringing cold air from over the ocean? Fantastic and refreshing. Snow on the ground and gusting 8-16 kmh? I don’t care how sunny it is, that wind is cutting through every single layer you put on. I woke up the other day to a wind chill that brought the temp from -10°C to -17°C. That’s 14°F to 1°F.

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      Often a week or two around Christmas time. When I was in school 30 years ago, we got nothing.

      But summer vacation was 3 months long.

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      Kids here get a week off in October near Halloween then two weeks around Christmas.

      They get two weeks around Easter which would be your equivalent I suppose from a seasonal perspective.

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    Depends on where you live. Summer in Minnesota is probably nice, no snow and lots of lakes to swim in. Summer in Perth is a life-threatening couple of months.