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    • “Up to…” when used to describe things like internet speeds
    • “Wholesome” when used to describe food. Not really a lie, per se, but “wholesome” has absolutely no meaning when it comes to nutrition and just sounds good
    • “Zero calories” or 0 grams of [blank] in the nutrition information. The regulations let them round down if it’s less than 1 gram standard unit of measurement for that item (edited from grams).
    • Any time you see “free” there’s always at least an implied asterisk
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      I think “natural” was determined in court to hold jo required quality, or be free from artificial, man-made or modified elements. So wholly opposite the standard meaning of the word.

      They always come for language first.

      “Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth.”

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      • “Zero calories” or 0 grams of [blank] in the nutrition information. The regulations let them round down if it’s less than 1 gram.

      For example, take a look at the “Serving size” of some cooking spray. 1/3 of a second of spray means 0.25g… So everything is zeroed out in the Nutrition facts.

      Tap for image

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      “Up to” in terms of anything. Up to inherently also contains zero.

      In regards to free, I’ve found that a general rule of thumb is that the larger, the bolder, the more differently colored, the more drop shadows added, the shinier, or the more 3D looking the word “free” is, the less free it will actually turn out to be.

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        “Up to” in terms of anything. Up to inherently also contains zero.

        I feel exactly the same way about “a fraction of” especially when it’s “a fraction of the price”, because 99/100 is a fraction, as is 100/100.

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      • “Zero calories” or 0 grams of [blank] in the nutrition information. The regulations let them round down if it’s less than 1 gram standard unit of measurement for that item (edited from grams).

      A particularly egregious example is TicTacs, which are labeled as having 0 calories despite being almost pure sugar. The practice is also very common with alternative sweeteners, which have fewer calories than regular sugar but far from 0.

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      The “zero calories” is a US thing, in the EU manufacturers are required to show nutrition per 100g. They can add percentages and serving sizes if they want, but per 100g or 100ml is required, so you can calculate your own serving sizes easily.

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        you can calculate your own serving sizes easily

        You haven’t met the average American have you?

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        If the farm is NOP certified then that’s what it means and products will be labeled “USDA Organic.”

        However the FDA doesn’t regulate the word “organic” so anyone can just slap the word on a product and call it a day.

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        This is not generally true. Organic farmer can use what most would consider synthetic pesticides. These are not technically synthetic because they are derived in a lab from organic material like petroleum.

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    I have been conditioned to think of “Free & Clear” as having no coloring or nasty scents added and then I come across this and was duped

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      Flavored dish soap is kinda wild in general. Yes, I want the things I eat and drink off of to all taste vaguely of chemical lemons.

      The default should be plain soaps and plain dish detergent. Some are so potent that the scent sticks to the dishes even after washing, and unfortunately, the food too. Especially that dawn spray soap.

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      This is such bullshit manipulative marketing, similar to when companies will put out an ad saying something like “ONLY $1.99/MONTH” in large, bold letters and then below it have tiny fine print saying “for the first month, then $420.69/month”.

      “Free of dyes. Soft pear scent.”. Boom. Done. Not only is it short, but it’s clear and accurate. Almost nobody cares if it’s “clear” as long as it’s dye-free.

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    “Up to”

    It is a company’s often-used and workaround way of saying “we’re not promising you shit” right upfront. If an ISP decides to give you 20MBps and they say ‘up to’ 50? Guess what, you’re getting that variable 20 - 35 at best connection, not the full 50 or even 49.

    Any value that a company puts those two words up against, always expect you’re getting lesser than advertised. It’s a subtle sneaky bullshit lie that is right infront of your face.

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      Huggies diapers fucking say “up to 100% leakproof” on the box.

      I just want to see a picture of the face of the person that thought that was reasonable.

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        Kids can pee a lot and there’s only so much liquid you can absorb with a reasonable amount of material. Seems like a valid use of that phrase to me

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      It’s impossible for an ISP to guarantee speeds though, because it’s not just their connection that’s being used.

      Do they use this to weasel out of reasonable expectations of connection quality? Yes, absolutely. But they also can’t do anything about the speed of the server you’re downloading from.

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    I see a lot of food with Gluten-free labels having wheat flour as the first ingredient in the list.

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      They must mean wheat starch or some other derivative where the gluten has been removed?

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    I signed up for the “ad free experience” on Amazon.

    Picked a movie, popup says “this feature is not available ad free”. Cancelled

    How is this legal? Oh yeah, Bezos was on the stage clapping with the other robber barons.

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      Amazon was just successfully sued because of the ads in Germany. It wasn’t legal in the first place to enable ads on the lowest tier.

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      I gave up sailing the high seas during the golden age of streaming. Unfortunately it has already come to an end with the majority of streaming services including ads for their highest tier.

      I have wasted so much of my life on watching commercials, I refuse to waste anymore.

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        I have wasted so much of my life on watching commercials, I refuse to waste anymore.

        This, 100% this.

        Every streaming I have I pay the few extra bucks for ad free. Keep that fucking garbage out of my house.

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    Anything you can think of if there isn’t a law that says they can’t. One big one for me is expiration dates. Aside from, say, milk, they really don’t mean much.

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      Former head chef who’s worked in restaurants and production kitchens here. I made food for both immediate consumption, and package and sale. Food safety regulations will differ by location, as I once worked where three different regional health authorities ovelapped, but this is generally false.

      In a commercial kitchens we weren’t allowed to sell expired food. The “Best Before” date is different, since it’s related to taste/texture, determined through structured testing, best educated guesses and/or personal tasting.

      We kept dated boxes of products to taste ourselves every month, but also sent products to a lab to determine if the ingredients degraded or grew enough bacteria in different storage conditions to make it dangerous to consume. One caveat is when product quality degrades faster than it becomes a health risk, sometimes by years. Or, in the case of hard candy, probably never. In that case, companies might pick the longest range of time the product’s been tested — and that’s why you might see expiry dates on things that shouldn’t go bad.

      Best before dates are guidelines, expiry dates are rules.

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          I aim to teach, not to shame. I had a few cooks who thought the same thing.

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            I was aware that shops and restaurants couldn’t sell food marked as expired but I had thought that the dates were still arbitrary. That’s what I learned about today.

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    100% recyclable!

    Like, sure in theory. But if the facilities dont exist its useless. Most things are recyclable in theory.

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    Calorie free. Fat free. Sodium free, etc.

    Just means that it has less than a specific threshold of the item per serving. And their servings are often arbitrarily small enough in order to conveniently miss that threshold

    I’m looking at you, Tic Tacs