Do any of you honestly believe it’s unfair to call someone who applied for the job over email? They left their contact information didn’t they? If 6 people want a job and only 1 answers their dam phone…lol, lmao even
I hate answering the phone as much as anyone else but I always answer the random numbers when I’m actually expecting a call from work or a doctor.
LinkedIn is a fucking joke but anyone genuinely outraged by this is being absurd
My only gripe is not leaving a voicemail. Canadidates are not receptionists, so making assumptions of people based on not answering two random calls through the day is not really a good way to recruit talent.
I’m not that old but I’ll answer every call when I can, I’ll call back if you leave your number to my VM, I make it a point to follow up if you reach out,. However I might be on the train, driving, in the shower and can’t answer. Or, I could be having real life fun or doing real life work where I don’t have to constantly be monitoring my phone or looking at LinkedIn HR-AI slop.
In actually professional interview settings, phone calls are scheduled in advance via email. Additionally, while it is ok but kind of weird for the person to call unscheduled, it is
Weird and unprofessional to not leave a voicemail
Completely out of touch to expect people to answer unknown numbers when they’re not expecting some weirdo to call without scheduling when the norm is to schedule
Completely out of touch to assume they have nothing going on and can even answer the phone the 2 random points in time you decide to call
I agree, but he does call twice and for all I know the job involves a lot calling at all times of day and he wants to know that you answer your phone. But he absolutely sounds like an unpleasant person to work for.
2 and 3. I disagree, they are in fact expecting an unknown number to call them because they’ve applied for a job. You really probably aren’t doing anything so important that you can’t take a call while literally expecting prospective jobs to call you.
I’ve taken calls at work, during school, on the train. That’s life and if you think you just don’t have to ever answer your phone except on your perfect terms then it’s you who is out of touch.
they are in fact expecting an unknown number to call them because they’ve applied for a job
I don’t know why you think this is the case. It is not normal for professional jobs to call without scheduling and not leave a voicemail. It is in fact completely unprofessional.
You really probably aren’t doing anything so important
You literally have no way of knowing this. There are tons of scenarios where it is reasonable for someone not to answer their phone even of they are expecting a call.
There are jobs where people are straight up not allowed to keep their phone on them.
If you are working customer service and in the middle of a customer interaction (which is a very common job for people trying to get internships in their chosen field)
Taking an exam at school, working in something like a chemistry lab at school where you can’t interrupt the task, etc
In the shower, on the toilet, changing a diaper, or any other myriad reasons to be temporarily indisposed.
Like it’s really not hard a concept. Why defend this power tripping weirdo who refuses to follow social norms
Pssst, it’s because they’re a powertripping weirdo who wants to excuse the petty powerplays they use… Notice how they started with, “well I answer my phone in all of these situations where it’s impolite”.
Dude’s an asshole finding excuses to remain that way.
you seem like the type that answers said calls in public spaces on speaker phone - after interrupting your headphone-less youtube binge at the cafe or on the train.
Scheduling a phone call is fine. Leaving a message is fine. Doing neither and getting upset that the candidate may have simply not been available when you called is not.
since marketers and scammers have turned phone calls in to time sucks and security threats, i’d suppose.
I don’t remember when was the last time I had phone call like that. Must have been years ago. Cultural difference between USA and civilised countries I presume.
And just how exactly do you know that it’s B calling you? Do you know every prefix and number range that company can be calling from? Could it be a recruiters personal cell, or maybe a 3rd party VoIP system.
So now you don’t know what number it’s from. Maybe it’s a scam then, or maybe you’re working on other things, like being in the middle of class (since it said intern). Do you step out to take every call that may come in and waste your time since there’s no message being left?
And just how exactly do you know that it’s B calling you?
This is not the point. You applied for a job and you are expected to pick up the fucking phone as much as you are expected to read and reply to an email.
The only issue with this guy post is him not either leaving a message or sending a quick email saying he tried to contact them, that’s all.
So now you don’t know what number it’s from. Maybe it’s a scam
To ensure you can reach the person at a time when they are available. If you call unannounced and they don’t/can’t pick up, you’re not allowed to get upset.
they don’t/can’t pick up, you’re not allowed to get upset
Agreed, although I would expect a person applying for a job to be reasonably responsive. I personally would try few times and perhaps send an email saying I tried to ring. But to expect phone call to be “scheduled” is just daft - phone call is the quickest method of contact.
No, you can’t expect someone to be responsive at any random time out of the blue. Every phone interview I’ve had was first scheduled via text or email.
No one is available 24/7, it is not reasonable to expect them to be. If you need to be absolutely sure that someone will definitely be available at a given time, you schedule it.
Or, you leave a goddamn message like a reasonable person. You know that voicemail was invented for a reason, right?
Do any of you honestly believe it’s unfair to call someone who applied for the job over email? They left their contact information didn’t they? If 6 people want a job and only 1 answers their dam phone…lol, lmao even
I hate answering the phone as much as anyone else but I always answer the random numbers when I’m actually expecting a call from work or a doctor.
LinkedIn is a fucking joke but anyone genuinely outraged by this is being absurd
My only gripe is not leaving a voicemail. Canadidates are not receptionists, so making assumptions of people based on not answering two random calls through the day is not really a good way to recruit talent.
I’m not that old but I’ll answer every call when I can, I’ll call back if you leave your number to my VM, I make it a point to follow up if you reach out,. However I might be on the train, driving, in the shower and can’t answer. Or, I could be having real life fun or doing real life work where I don’t have to constantly be monitoring my phone or looking at LinkedIn HR-AI slop.
not even a job, an internship
I agree it’s fair to expect a phone conversation, but two calls and no message is a dick move
In actually professional interview settings, phone calls are scheduled in advance via email. Additionally, while it is ok but kind of weird for the person to call unscheduled, it is
#3 is a common symptom of main character syndrome.
2 and 3. I disagree, they are in fact expecting an unknown number to call them because they’ve applied for a job. You really probably aren’t doing anything so important that you can’t take a call while literally expecting prospective jobs to call you.
I’ve taken calls at work, during school, on the train. That’s life and if you think you just don’t have to ever answer your phone except on your perfect terms then it’s you who is out of touch.
I don’t know why you think this is the case. It is not normal for professional jobs to call without scheduling and not leave a voicemail. It is in fact completely unprofessional.
You literally have no way of knowing this. There are tons of scenarios where it is reasonable for someone not to answer their phone even of they are expecting a call.
Like it’s really not hard a concept. Why defend this power tripping weirdo who refuses to follow social norms
Pssst, it’s because they’re a powertripping weirdo who wants to excuse the petty powerplays they use… Notice how they started with, “well I answer my phone in all of these situations where it’s impolite”.
Dude’s an asshole finding excuses to remain that way.
you seem like the type that answers said calls in public spaces on speaker phone - after interrupting your headphone-less youtube binge at the cafe or on the train.
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Yeah, he gives them a second chance too, and does acknowledge it being a bit unfair. I don’t find this too bad, really.
Scheduling a phone call is fine. Leaving a message is fine. Doing neither and getting upset that the candidate may have simply not been available when you called is not.
Since when phone calls need “scheduling”? It is a fucking phone call, not a dinner with your grandparents.
since marketers and scammers have turned phone calls in to time sucks and security threats, i’d suppose.
my phone doesn’t even ring unless you are in my contact list. my voice mail says “please do not record a message, please text me.”
I don’t remember when was the last time I had phone call like that. Must have been years ago. Cultural difference between USA and civilised countries I presume.
Since it is between 2 random people who have never seen each other. Which could just as well be a scam.
Ironically if it was your grandparents, it wouldn’t be an issue if they called unscheduled.
This is simply not true. A applied for a job to B and B is ringing him about the application A made.
And just how exactly do you know that it’s B calling you? Do you know every prefix and number range that company can be calling from? Could it be a recruiters personal cell, or maybe a 3rd party VoIP system.
So now you don’t know what number it’s from. Maybe it’s a scam then, or maybe you’re working on other things, like being in the middle of class (since it said intern). Do you step out to take every call that may come in and waste your time since there’s no message being left?
This is not the point. You applied for a job and you are expected to pick up the fucking phone as much as you are expected to read and reply to an email.
The only issue with this guy post is him not either leaving a message or sending a quick email saying he tried to contact them, that’s all.
You are ludicrous.
To ensure you can reach the person at a time when they are available. If you call unannounced and they don’t/can’t pick up, you’re not allowed to get upset.
Agreed, although I would expect a person applying for a job to be reasonably responsive. I personally would try few times and perhaps send an email saying I tried to ring. But to expect phone call to be “scheduled” is just daft - phone call is the quickest method of contact.
No, you can’t expect someone to be responsive at any random time out of the blue. Every phone interview I’ve had was first scheduled via text or email.
Yes, you can expect someone who applied for the job to pick up the phone if you ring few times at different times.
No one is available 24/7, it is not reasonable to expect them to be. If you need to be absolutely sure that someone will definitely be available at a given time, you schedule it.
Or, you leave a goddamn message like a reasonable person. You know that voicemail was invented for a reason, right?
I don’t believe he was called at midnight. It is called “office hours” and you are expected to pick up.