Highly recommend On Chomsky by Roderic Day for anyone that idolizes this guy or thinks him a reputable voice for the left.
Not idolizing anyone has saved me so much grief. I have been upset many times (I once went to see Bill Cosby live), but never heartbroken.
That’s a good attitude to have. I certainly have historical and current figures I respect and look up to, though, and would be quite upset if I found out they were as bad as Chomsky. Thankfully I never had a Zizek phase.
My man is just manufacturing up some consent
On the bright side, they both agreed that Beria was a lovely lad.
What’s the point of having a world class child prostitution ring if you can’t use it smooze with some politicians from time to time. They are all playing the same game, and we aren’t in it.
Chomsky: “The collapse of USSR was victory for the working class”
The “working class” he meant:
one thing that I think all lefties can agree on, from Social democrats, Anarchists to “Tankies” The fall of the soviet union was a horrible event for the workers of the former union, shock therapy was the worst possible method one could think of to transition the former communist (socialist if you so dare to be pedantic) economy into a capitalist economy
As much as anyone on the left should agree that the fall of the Soviet Union was a horrible, tragic event for workers there (if not worldwide), I think many if not the majority of Social Democrats and even a few who like to call themselves Anarchists, would deny that fact as vehemently as any capitalist. Western hatred for the USSR runs deep. Chomsky is a perfect example, and there are droves of supposed “lefties” who readily side with him on insisting that “The collapse of USSR was victory for the working class.”
Look, Noam isn’t wearing his glasses, he might think he’s talking to Anthony Bourdain
The two guys calling you a “Tankie” in the comments.
EDIT : Thank you for your comments. Please don’t send me more replies, as everything that needs to be said has been said, and is now starting to tread the thin line between anti-zionism and anti-sematism.
I still don’t get how he ended up in that position.
No, like seriously. Practically.
He’s a fucking left wing linguistics professor. Even if he’s a giant pedo, how does he afford to get a ticket to go to epstein island? If he can’t afford it, why does epstein give him a free ride? He’s on the opposite side to chomsky.
did the book sales for manufacturing consent get him that fucking rich?
how does he afford to get a ticket to go to epstein island?
Epstein was a Mossad agent offering “honey pots” for kompromat and rule over the US/west. “You’re a super interesting guy. I’m having a supermodel orgy in Bahamas with lots of other famous people. I can fly by and pick you up”… you’re not doing anything wrong by saying yes.
His net worth is <$2M.
At that point in his career, Chomsky was getting invited everywhere because he was branded “the top intellectual in the world”.
People would see him speak and not understand a damned word he said.
People would see him speak and not understand a damned word he said.
It’s not like Chomsky understood anything he was saying outside of linguistics.
$2m is nothing to someone like Epstein. The private jet they’re flying in cost $61m, for example
Chomsky is a Zionist which publicly supports the genocidal Apartheid and is anti BDS.
Most of Chomsky’s criticism is correct but coincidentally applies to Chcomsky himself.
Where did you pick up that Chomsky would be a Zionist? He’s actively working against the Apartheid Regime in multiple of his books
He is anti BDS and supports the “right of Israel to exist”. That’s the definition of Zionism.
Like a true Liberal Zionist he does minor criticism but refuses to acknowledge that Israel shouldn’t exist.
Zionism is to argue “the people of the jewish faith and the state of Israel are the same thing”, which he very much wasn’t a fan of.
And the state of Israel has a right to exist, it just shouldn’t get special treatment and a different rulebook than anyone else.
Zionism is to argue that Jews deserve an ethnostate called Israel and it is based on Jewish surpremacism.
Israel has no right to exist and should not exist.
States don’t have a right to exist in general, so that’s special treatment already
And the state of Israel has a right to exist
Why should a genocidal European settler-colonial state have a right to exist in West Asia?
The state of Israel has no right to exist, as it is a genocidal settler colony on stolen land. Palestine should have its original land returned.
refuses to acknowledge that Israel shouldn’t exist.
Whatever.
“Nazi Germany has its faults but it has a right to exist” - Noam Chomsky.
Ok, Gen X.
Sure, because in 2025 everyone is either a Zionist or an anti-semite. So cool on the interweb.
Indeed everyone who is anti Zionist is an anti Semite. Great analysis.
I get the sarcasm, but I think the case can be made that it’s the exact opposite. Zionism is terrible for the Jews, both in the mythology and real wold consequences.
Zionism is awesome for Jews. They get special treatment and their own ethnostate where they get to steal houses and land from other people simply because they are Jewish.
80%+ of Jews worldwide support Israel for that reason. Because it benefits Jews and they are Jews and thus Israel benefits them.
Slavery wasn’t “awful for white people because it gave them a bad rep” either. It very much directly benefitted them.
Zionism is awesome for Jews.
After WW2 Jews essentially had a cultural golden ticket. They could have perpetually ridden the wave of being treated as the world’s most victimized group forever. There was almost nothing worse a person could be than an anti-semite or Holocaust denier. Zionism broke that spell, and “anti-semite” has become a bad joke.
80%+ of Jews worldwide support Israel
Support Israel how though? 80% certainly don’t support the current government, or the settlements. Also, look how many Americans support(ed) Trump. Does that mean Trump is “awesome” for Americans, or even for his supporters?
Slavery … directly benefitted them.
I disagree. There were certainly material benefits but, ultimately, I don’t think anyone is better off because of slavery. America still is unable to reconcile with it’s own history, and that has had some pretty obvious consequences for everyone.
Not at all. The Holocaust industry only took off after the 70s and mostly because intense Israeli lobbying efforts. This becomes very obvious when you see Holocaust museums supporting the modern day Holocaust in Gaza in the most twisted irony possible.
There is no such thing as the “current Israeli government”. Israel is a Jewish surpremacist ethnostate and has been so since its inception. It’s like “supporting Nazi Germany but that Hitler guy isn’t very cool”. Nazi Germany didn’t revolve solely around Hitler. If he didn’t exist some other guy would have been be the Fuhrer.
The entire industrial revolution was powered by slavery. Your logic makes no sense.
He isn’t really on the opposite side of Chomsky. Chomsky is very much allowed as vocal “opposition” because his conclusions all lie in cynicism towards the idea that there are meaningful alternatives to the status quo. He redirects radicalism toward doomerism and away from meaningful practice.
Very good question indeed. Sadly, it doesn’t help that Chomsky keeps avoiding answering this and other related questions.
As someone so vocal about serious crimes going unpunished, I’d imagine he’d just openly say what’s going on. If he’s so adamant about staying silent, it only adds more doubt and further questions.
I think Chomsky is still nonverbal from his 2023 stroke.
Is he involved with a charity? Epstein was filthy rich, I’ll bet he was constantly getting hit up for money. That explains Clinton and Gate’s presence
I think there are simpler explanations for Clinton and Gates’ presence.
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the lib mental gymnastics
Epstein was a major bundler and influencer in the liberal establishment, specifically within the US East Coast and the EU West Coast regions. Chompsky was also in this circle of influential political and media figures. Its not crazy that they’d run into each other any more than Epstein hobnobbing with any other Ivy League professors or national media figures or British Royals.
did the book sales for manufacturing consent get him that fucking rich?
More that knowing a guy like Epstein is what gets you regularly syndicated in news columns and invited as a guest onto TV shows. You could say the same about Larry Summers or Steven Pinker.
After learning how integral Epstein was to the infiltration of America’s elite, it would make sense that Mossad also pushed their thought into left wing space too with agents like Chomsky. They position themselves with two big players, one in business and finance and the other in academia (with grants and money as incentive).
We are seeing years of coordinated effort to undermine and control America and Europe. The UK is likely in the same place but less obvious because they have nothing close to America’s ability to project force in places like Iran.
Zionism is a plague. Israel is ruining the world
Israel doesn’t control the US or Europe. The US Empire, with Europe as its vassals, support Israel because it secures their imperialist interests in the region. There’s a degree of counter-influence and lobbying done by Israel, but Israel isn’t the one pulling the strings, the US is.
We are seeing years of coordinated effort to undermine and control America and Europe.
This isn’t (only) some nefarious Israeli plot. Capitalist states are oligarchies, and the US is the imperial hegemon. The tail isn’t wagging the dog, and the US is largely undermining it’s legitimacy itself. Israel is the US’ unsinkable aircraft carrier in West Asia, and were there not an Israel, the US would have to invent an Israel. This is business as usual.
The article of the first link really is about aa uncritical and non-nuanced as it gets. Thanks for sharing anyway, there are still some interesting facts to pull from it.
Regardless of the article’s nuance or criticality, Foreign Policy is a major mouthpiece of the US military-industrial complex.
If you look at his emails with Epstein, it’s literally Epstein asking him about his academic work, Epstein toying with various little theories and asking Chomsky about them, etc. All above board so far. Him being on the plane is not great, but it doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a pedo. It opens up that possibility, but there is not proof of him doing anything wrong. Yet. I really hope he didn’t do anything wrong, but it’s obviously a possibility.
No matter what you think about Chomsky, he’s an extremely important intellectual figure and is associated with the left. Him going down would be bad for all of us - so I hope he’s not a bastard.
I highly recommend you read On Chomsky by Roderic Day. Chomsky’s a bastard and the left would be better without him, as he ultimately postures his “leftism” in manners that uphold the US Empire through cynically demonizing any real alternatives.
I will read it. Regardless, though, he is associated with the left and him going down for this would be bad PR for the left broadly, which sucks - that’s my only point other than we don’t know he’s done anything untoward here.
In my view, it is better to tear down the “left” phrasemongers that attack socialism in action while waxxing poetic about “pure” and “ideal” socialism, and uphold actually good practicians and theorists over them.
True - I totally agree.
Thanks for the recommendation, will take a look at it. What I’ve read of Chomsky so far is often a critique of (mostly, but not exclusively) US Imperialism, so I’m curious what this person is arguing
His critique of US imperialism is as I said, done in a way that downplays any alternative in real life and redirects radicals towards cynicism and nihilism. His point can be summed up as “The US Empire is evil, but everyone else is worse, so we have to support it.”
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Epstein collected intellectuals. He bought whole science departments at MIT, and kept a brothel of soft intellectuals like Malcolm Gladwell (imo definitely participated in some extra curriculars with Epstein), Richard Dawkins, Stephen Pinker (whom JE voted off the island (heh) because he wouldn’t corroborate JE’s eugenicism) and many others.
Norm (I call him Norm now) Chomsky is a guy who will just like answer any emails that come to him. He’s not difficult to get a response from. I think Epstein was good at handling intellectuals, and had a lot to offer researchers like Chomsky who wanted to know how to follow the money, and where the bodies were buried. Epstein’s connections and insider knowledge to the CIA, Mossad, and Les Wexner are all legitimate enough reasons to spend time talking with him.
This isnt to shift blame or culpability away from Chomsky, just to say that Epstein and associates had developed a concrete basis for power and influence among intellectuals. It wasnt just taking advantage of underage young women for personal pleasure, but all rivers seem to run into that sea.
To me though it really illustrates how Chomsky was really an ivory-tower elitist. If there was ever proof that left wing ideas only matter when they lead to taking effective action in the struggle for liberation, then Chomsky’s unrepentant associations with Epstein are a shining example. As if many of his “left wing” positions weren’t already problematic enough, he made sure to put on full display whom is the real subject of his work, and it isnt the toiling and exploited classes. I have some ideological differences with him, but thankfully we don’t need to worry about that. His actions speak to the actual nature of his ideas, so we need only gesture toward this photo as proof of how he demolished his own legacy, and how he doesnt deserve a place among those who actually struggle to educate people about the truth of our conditions.
May his work be forgotten. What a sad, pathetic man.
Do you think Dawkins is culpable for anything?
Other than being a fuckin loser? I haven’t heard of any deep associations between JE and Dawkins. I have to go back to check what Gladwell’s associations were as it has been a while since I heard about their connection. It’s possible that I’m over stating his connection because I really don’t like his dumb books and he looks like such a fucking creep
Beyond this seemingly damning image, what other evidence is there of Chomsky’s participation in miscreance and deviant behavior?
Well, as a leftists I think its just extra disappointing. Like I’m not a syndicalist or anarchist, he wasnt my guy, but he was a left voice. He was critical of imperialism and shined a light on corruption and injustice.
Like when Chris Tucker appeared in flight logs its like, “oh the comedian? Weird,” and maybe if I was a comedian I’d feel different. But CT also denied any actual associations. Chomsky’s just like “yeah he’s my friend, its none of your business” honesty is a virtue and all that, but the way he has attacked and criticized other leftists over the years, to see him defend this literal avatar of abuse, corruption and imperialism, is quite revealing.
But my personal orientation toward Norm hasn’t changed much. I had read a couple of his books but he’s kind of meh imo. Obviously a very hard working and prolific academic, though academics can be disappointing from a leftist perspective. I doubt he had much time or interest to engage in the kinds of abuse that made Epstein notorious.
I think Norm knew about the abuse and corruption, and definitely about his role in geopolitics. And maybe Epstein helped him out once personally in a way that deeply affected him. People are complicated, and Chomsky’s loyalty is maybe admirable, though such circumstances are speculation. But if I found out my best friend was hanging out with Jamie Dimon, Donald Trump, and Alan Dershowitz, as well as a cavalcade of notorious villains and literal monsters, that he had created a global network of underaged women who he exploited for sex 3 or more times per day, literally anything that we’ve found out about JE, I would cut them off immediately. And if I found out a different friend was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein and was unrepentant, I’d cut them off too. That’s all I need. The association is bad enough that I dont need further evidence, personally.
Is there a link to Chomsky commenting on any of this? I’m simply stunned. And I know the monster Epstein collected public figures and I agree that being collected by him is damning. But I’d still like to hear what Chomsky has to say about the image. Like… anything?
Here is a video of Chomsky from 2020, before the connection between JE and Chomsky had been revealed. He gets a little indignant and defensive about Epstein, interesting flavor info.
Heres the business insider article from 2023 https://www.businessinsider.com/noam-chomsky-mit-wsj-wall-street-journal-jeffrey-epstein-2023-4
And then you have the latest revelations https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emails
Chomsky, 96, had also reportedly acknowledged receiving about $270,000 from an account linked to Epstein while sorting the disbursement of common funds relating to the first of his two marriages, though the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor has insisted not “one penny” came directly from the infamous financier.
The banality of evil: how Epstein’s powerful friends normalised him Read more The emails disclosed on 12 November by the Republican members of the US House oversight committee generally detailed the correspondence Epstein had with political, academic and business luminaries, including the Bill Clinton White House’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and Steve Bannon, the longtime ally of Donald Trump. Further, they reveal Epstein and Chomsky were close enough to discuss musical interests and even potential vacations.
Perhaps the most telling of the Chomsky-related documents in question was a letter of support for Epstein attributed to Chomsky with the salutation “to whom it may concern”. It is not dated, but it contains a typed signature with Chomsky’s name and citing his position as a University of Arizona laureate professor, a role he began in 2017, as first reported by the Massachusetts news outlet WBUR.
My day is just wrecked.
Chomsky was the last person I believed in.
I don’t believe he diddled… but his descriptions of hanging out with Epstein turn my stomach.
Happy Christmas Eve.
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Here is a video of Chomsky from 2020, before the connection between JE and Chomsky had been revealed. He gets a little indignant and defensive about Epstein, interesting flavor info.
Did you maybe forget to paste the link for this? I’m assuming it’s probably this one, but if there’s another I’d like to see it. In this one, Chomsky first defends Epstein (and his own relationship with Epstein) by citing how it’s a foundational tenant of western law that a person who has “served their sentence” is then absolved or “the same as everybody else” as Chomsky puts it. Which is amusing in itself coming from someone who supposedly is such a critic of how asymmetrically that law punishes the weak and powerless vs the rich and powerful. He then does an actual whataboutism by basically saying “well David Koch was even worse, and he also gave money to MIT where I worked. Did anybody say anything about that?” Ok then, Noam, would you go have brunch with Koch on his private jet too, or are you saying that’s where you draw the line? I wish the interviewer, who was obviously dissatisfied with his answers had been less deferential to Chomsky.
But if I found out my best friend was hanging out with Jamie Dimon, Donald Trump, and Alan Dershowitz, as well as a cavalcade of notorious villains and literal monsters
I was surprised to learn how close Epstein and Steve Bannon were. Not at all surprised by the connection, but if you read the ongoing conversations they had, they were like a couple of teens gossiping with each other over the phone every night. I do wonder exactly how aware he was that his good buddy Epstein was besties with, as you said, notorious villians and literal monsters (like would Chomsky still be ok if Epstein had been good friends with David Koch for example?), but I doubt Chomsky was as in the dark about it as his fans would like to think. He was aware that Epstein had at least in the past, if not currently was outright human-trafficking children for SA on his private island, but apparently he did his time, and that makes him “the same as everybody else.”
It really is an illuminating example of how interconnected so many of the so-called elite really are, even those whose public personas would make us think they could be nothing but bitter enemies. My personal vibes-based belief is that it’s a soft form of class solidarity.
I just assume anyone I see on TV or in the mainstream, is an intelligence agent. You never see a single person on TV that isnt completely insane. The first time I heard that guy speak, I knew he was a spook. They would never allow someone who wasn’t a spook to speak about politics or war or whatever on the news media.
There were some good journalists, but I’m not even sure if there is a single place in the world that an actual journalist could be safe. These days it’s usually the cops going after journalists and stuff on Trumped up charges like we are living in Russia or something.
It reminds me of this old Chomsky video https://m.youtube.com/shorts/AnFUWrjr25A
“I’m sure you believe what you are saying but if you believed something different you wouldnt be sitting here.”
Really calling the kettle on this
It got him celebrity. That opens doors in ways money doesn’t.
Rich and powerful people like Epstein like to collect influence and status and part of that status is collecting novelty. This is something money can’t directly buy and is exclusive so they need it like the parasites they are. Part of Epstein’s appeal to these ghouls was that not only would he make you rich and get you girls but he himself was “smart” end erudite and surrounded himself with the “best and brightest.” This is why he consorted with people like Hawking and Chomsky; he collected their reputations in his bag and then could tell other ghouls hey look come to the island, you can meet the most famous physicist of all time and, maybe, bang some young girls.
Hawkins?
Sorry, Stephen Hawking https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/05/prince-andrew-clinton-hawking-what-do-the-epstein-documents-say-about-key-people
To be fair to Hawking (who was a d-bag), there isn’t evidence that he went to the Island but he did meet with Epstein likely because Epstein sought out smart people to consort with
I do not care to delve into the personal life of all scientists, particularly physicists, who rarely opine on human nature. Hawking’s contributions to astrophysics and quantum physics are unrelated to his associations with shitty humans. In that arena, however, I do prefer Leonard Susskind over Hawking, in that Hawking’s fucking ego would not let him consider other positions related to certain topics. (In short, yes, he was a douche bag).
There’s an excellent book by Susskind called the Black Hole Wars about how he was right and Hawking was a dick when it came to how black holes consume objects and the data therein. Hawking eventually conceded to Susskind reluctantly after a few decades.
Not the cheezy guy!
I think they meant Minsky.
Minsky?
He meant Steven Hawking.
He meant Steven Hawking.
I had read the famous adress booklet of Epstein and Chomsky’s name wasn’t in there. But then he’s on the plane. No idea what relationship they had. Any statement from Chomsky?
Bruh isn’t Chomsky like… nonverbal?
oh that’s good, i won’t have to listen to him any more. bah dum tiss
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Chomsky is 97 and had a stroke
Any statement from Chomsky?
He’s been pretty dodgy about his association. He responded to a question about it in this interview, which pretty much amounted to “He served his sentence, which makes him just like anyone else,” and then did some whataboutism…
When asked about his relationship with Epstein, Mr. Chomsky replied in an email: “First response is that it is none of your business. Or anyone’s. Second is that I knew him and we met occasionally.”
In March 2015, Epstein scheduled a gathering with Mr. Chomsky and Harvard University professor Martin Nowak and other academics, according to the documents. Mr. Chomsky said they had several meetings at Mr. Nowak’s research institute to discuss neuroscience and other topics.
Two months later, Epstein planned to fly with Mr. Chomsky and his wife to have dinner with them and movie director Woody Allen and his wife, Soon-Yi Previn, the documents show. “If there was a flight, which I doubt, it would have been from Boston to New York, 30 minutes,” Mr. Chomsky said. “I’m unaware of the principle that requires that I inform you about an evening spent with a great artist.”
Epstein also had moved $270,000 for Chomsky, which isn’t a good look.
Well I’ve heard all I need to. I knew Chomsky was kind of a prodigious jerk. He’s put out some good material in his time, but it sure doesn’t seem like he’s personally on the right side of of the child abuse “side” of the debate.
Yeah, it’s a damn shame since Chomsky’s works are what initially sent me down the path to Anarchism, but there’s just too much there to give much benefit of the doubt.
