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I used FilterBox to block spammy notifications.
You haven’t blocked any spammy notifications in while.
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Can’t you just turn off Notifications on the app. Is that Android only?
That turns off all notifications for that app. FilterBox let’s you block them based on key words or other criteria. It’s like a spam filter for notifications.
Neat. I feel like so many apps spam you with unnecessary bullshit because their core functionality uses notifications and they have their foot in the door that way.
Any app that tried this gets uninstalled immediately. My notifications are for texts from my spouse and relies on Lemmy.
Oh Jesus, I would lose my mind if I got alerts for every reply on Lemmy/Piefed. I just check every so often.
Well yeah, but you’re like, famous here lol
I’m not spending time trying to find a better version.
Sometimes I’ll check back, have a million replies waiting, and think “oh my I said another one of those things didn’t I”.
I usually have a decent feel for what is going to set people off around here, but sometimes it’s a complete surprise.
I posted 2 memes back to back the other day, and I thought the riskier one was the one using an Alex Jones template, because in the past, people have been snappy about seeing problematic figures in templates, even if the joke was unrelated. Nope, what filled my inbox with angry replies was a meme poking fun at the high prices at farmers markets.
Thats the ticket
most people are actually fine with this. the “i dont care” the “i dont have anything to hide” the “man i wish i could do something about the ads, oh well” crowd. eventually we have let big tech grow on us, and we have encouraged the beast the bite us as he pleases.
Most people are NOT fine with this. Most people actually hate this, and a lot of people just put up with it, some go as far as to block notifications.
Right, but not enough to take 3 seconds to Google “how to stop ads” or “how to stop notifications”
I think most people have not dedicated enough brain space to the concept of software to contemplate re-configuring their notifications, but are vexed by them constantly.
That’s a better way to put it
Human brains are all susceptible to pattern triggers, although the exact parameters for the trigger vary from person to person. This is essential for survival of our species - among other things, it’s why most parents keep taking care of even difficult children who make their lives miserable.
Game and social media companies have really fine-tuned the methods to trigger the most money spending among the highest percentage of the population. Not spending on value, but spending compulsively and addictively. And like addicts to all things, most victims will fight tooth and nail against the idea their behavior was influenced by the algorithm, which makes it really difficult to get momentum for government regulations.
I have some hope from how our society has developed better methods for preventing and responding to opioid addiction. Still a long ways to go, but addiction is more widely recognized as a disease and not a personal failing; access restrictions have reduced the rate of new people becoming addicted; the most effective treatments like Suboxone are gaining traction over the preachy “just be miserable without drugs” programs. Similarly with overeating (food addiction) and the new weight loss drugs - an effective treatment existing has really opened people’s eyes to systemic changes being more effective than preachy moralizing “just eat less”.
So hopefully we will get laws that are enforced against predatory dark patterns. Someday.
As a European it has been interesting over the last decade to see a whole new family of predatory dark patterns emerge after the implementation of GDPR. The regulation that was intended to safeguard privacy, to a large extent is underwriting companies defaulting to spying on you for no gain to yourself. It’s an uphill battle.
I’m like most people the people here….if an app doesn’t have an easy and obvious way to disable notifications on installation…ie if it “sneaks” in notifications later on…it’s gone. No chances.
The ones that irritate me are to do list apps. I need checkboxes to tick off so I don’t forget shit. I don’t need you insinuating yourself into my life beyond that. You do not need my email address.
Apps on my phone have a one-strike rule: the moment they send me an ad or otherwise annoy me, notifications are disabled and I reevaluate whether I need that app installed in the first place.
Same for me. Who knows how many useful notifications I’m missing as a result. It’s about a 50:50 mix of apps I allow notifications vs ones I had to disable.
Android switched to not allowing apps to notify you without asking first. Dunno why they didn’t do it sooner.
It ends up being initially “Yes I want my app to notify me about important updates” but then the app abuses its notification privilege to start spamming you. I want my banking app to notify me when I get paid and when bills clear. I don’t want my banking app to tell me about a new low interest rate I can secure on a loan.
The app at least had granular notification settings I could go in and change, but then it ends up being a periodic battle of attrition against changes to the granular notifications that are always opted in by default every time they add a new category. I turn off “offers and promotions” in an app but now it offers “recommended deals” or some garbage.
The best part is when they purposely use only one notification channel, so you either have to disable all of them or none of them. And it’s not because they don’t know you can make multiple channels, nope, it’s because some product manager figured out there’s a higher rate of delivery for marketing notifications if they don’t let users have fine-grained control. Metrics above all else 👑
(Read this in a David Attenborough voice)
And here, we see the product manager in its natural habitat, the office boardroom. Although dark and desolate, it provides the product manager with one its most critical resources: the whiteboard. The average product manager goes through two whiteboards every meeting, and this one is no exception. Thankfully, it is well-prepared for the quarterly meeting, having found a boardroom with four whole whiteboards.
But, not all is perfect for this product manager. The natural enemy of the product manager—the project manager—has sensed activity in the boardroom. In their natural habitat, it’s a constant struggle between product manager and project manager. A fight between metrics: user, or developer. Luckily for our product manager, it’s not its first encounter with a project manager.
The intruding project manager takes a sip of its coffee, demanding a higher share of the metrics for its lines of code. A notification channel is 6 extra lines, and that can make the life-or-death difference between the project manager’s quarterly bonus. Our product manager is unwavering, however. It has dealt with this project manager before, and it knows just how to drive it away. The product manager raises itself up and puffs out its chest, trying to scare away the project manager by marking it’s territory with click-through rates and loudly mentioning the CEO.
The product manager’s strategy worked. At the mention of Steve, the intruding project manager turned pale and scurried away. The product manager is safe for another day in the office.
If nobody else says it, let me say it: thank you for this.
I love reading this out loud; while I don’t have a phone my email is full of spams
I do this with Windows 11. Every time microsoft tries some bullshit “hey you need to install this” or “hey how about you use this” or some other shit, I turn off as many options I can and uninstall even more of the system out of pure hatred. I wish I could just install linux on that computer, but I can’t get my two essential programs to work, so I’m stuck with the garbage I fucking hate more and more every day
I hope you can be free of it one day. I’m 4 months into Linux now and have not looked back. I was fortunate enough to not need any windows-exclusive apps.
Yeah, luckily I could switch one laptop to mint since I don’t need to game or draw on it, it’s been a blast!
Krita + a drawing tablet works really well by the way
I know, I’ve tried. Krita or Gimp just don’t really do what I’m doing with SAI
Gaming on Linux, while not perfect, is pretty great these days.
It is! I’m just trying to run a very old game with lots of stuff that is barely working even on windows anymore lol
That’s fair. What game, if I may ask?
The Sims 2, specifically ultimate collection (with RPC launcher)
Good to know! Thanks!
Could you run the apps in a VM? It’s not that hard and after a while you might figure out a way to drop it entirely (also running Windows in a VM is fun, don’t give it internet acces, fuck up it’s files, tell it to piss off all kinds of ways, it’s a VM who cares)
I’ve tried, but so far no luck. What I’m having trouble with is paint tool SAI 2 and the Sims 2 ultimate collection. Both should be possible to run, but I’ve just had no luck (and with sims there’s plenty of other problems I haven’t even gotten into yet, like getting all the necessary other things to run, like simPE). SAI only works if you have an external drawing tablet/display, but I haven’t gotten it working with integrated
If you wanted to give it another try, I found this guide for SAI 2: https://github.com/TibixDev/sai2-guide
Many users reported no issues running Sims 2 on protondb, I’d recommend installing it via Lutris: https://protondb.com/app/3314070
You may need to adjust some settings like the runner (wine-ge is default in Lutris and works for all my games, Proton is also popular) or the environment variables (flags detailed in the protondb reports)
Then you could install simPE under the same Wine prefix (like a simulated Windows filesystem) so that it can see your game files. Might have some quirks like what’s detailed in this post, but generally seems to work https://www.reddit.com/r/sims2help/comments/1grccow/simpe_on_linux_wine/
A LLM should be able to help you with basic troubleshooting, I’d recommend Gemini over ChatGPT though.
Aside from that I’d just recommend choosing a distro that bundles your GPU drivers to make initial setup easier
Tried both already, neither is still working. With SAI the problem seems to be the tablet drivers as I can get even pressure sensitivity working, but no matter what I try the cursor is offset like crazy; I think the problem is the tablet drivers and I can get as far as installing opentabletdriver, but since I have integrated touch screen display on this laptop, I haven’t figured out how to turn the old drivers off. Every other drawing program seems to work though, just not SAI… The other computer where I’m stuck with win11 is surface pro though, so chances off getting anything working on that with linux are even lower. Ironically not even win11 runs propely on it, microsoft has no excuses!
With sims 2 the problem is every link through Lutris is dead already, and I haven’t found anything working through the internet archive either. I know I could get the game itself running by buying it the legacy edition through steam, but that doesn’t have the ikea collection (and I would have to go through 20 years of mods individually to weed out the ones using stuff from ikea pack), I wouldn’t get RPC and it doesn’t even support bodyshop. I mean I probably can’t get bodyshop running on linux anyway, but I haven’t gotten far enough to worry about that yet
For body shop, RPC and really any other externally run mods, you’d just click the wine glass icon in Lutris and click “Run .exe in Wine prefix”, same for simPE. That’s the main reason I recommend Lutris. There might be some specific caveat to these mods, but I’ve used many external mods in other games this way without issue. Just yesterday I installed CheatEngine in my Ghost of Tsushima prefix to enable a mod which changes the parry timing indicator.
Re: SAI 2, in terminal:
xinput listFind your touchscreen device e.g “HID-compliant touchscreen”
xinput disable "<HID-compliant touchscreen>"This will disable touchscreen system-wide but is just to test and will revert upon rebooting. If it works, add an environment variable in Bottles:
WINE_HID_DISABLE_HUMAN_INTERFACE_DEVICES=1Beyond that the issue might be fixed by adjusting the scaling of your Linux desktop, opentabletdriver configuration, or Bottles configuration related to scaling or mouse acceleration
Thanks for the help! I’ll keep trying lol.
With RPC the problem is legacy edition itself; the mod doesn’t work with it (and legacy edition doesn’t have bodyshop, it’s not a mod but part of the old game; unless someone finally has found a way around that). What I’m trying to run is the ultimate collection, because both of those are quite essential. I know it is possible to get it working, but I just haven’t found a way yet…
Depends on what you want from RPC, I guess. The creator seems to have made a quick patch for Legacy that adds borderless full screen and firstborn syndrome fix, but that’s it.
Anyway if you prefer the ultimate collection, I’m happy to rehost a working torrent from one of my private trackers once I’m back on my home connection in about a week.
Because if you give business access to your eyeballs, they with use that access to advertise to you. Cuz we’re just rabble to be poked and prodded to give up our money.
You shut your face when get to shoppin
Mimo is cool with it lol.
They send you reminders to go back and learn and if you ignore them for…I believe over a week? They send last notification that goes something like this:
“These notifications don’t seem to work so we’ll stop them now. Have fun and remember we’re here when you want to get back!”
Like. Reading that automatically made me more positive towards the app xD
That would make me delete it instantly and leave a bad review.
…because they notice you don’t care so they stop spam? xD
They spammed to let them know they stopped spamming.
Just don’t approve the notifications permission
Yeah, why would you ever give this permission to a grocery list app in the first place? I’m sure I have a bunch of apps that would be doing this to me, but I’ve never given them the chance.
And deprive everyone else of a choice tweet like this? Certainly not.
Notifications are the way an app reminds me it needs to be immediately uninstalled.
My Spotify wrapped was a reminder that I barely used it at all this year. Thanks for the heads up that I need to cancel that subscription 👌
I have to have Facebook messenger installed because it’s the only way I have to contact several out-of-date friends and family. Notifications enabled for the same reason. It will send a notification when you get a message. Ok.
If you happen to leave that notification there to say, maybe check that message later, it will send a second notification to remind you of the first notification.
Oh, it also makes loud annoying noises when you or someone else is typing in a chatroom.
Fuck Facebook messenger. With a rusty hammer. Sideways. In a vat of acid.
