I never once lost faith in Bill.
I never had faith in him, but if the man is willing to put himself on the line and claims he has nothing to hide, while also wanting the full release of the files…well I’ll give him a chance to speak his piece.
Atleast he isn’t dodging the shit like Trump is
I always thought it was “speak his peace” but I’ve been seeing piece a lot lately.
Honestly, I’m probably wrong. I thought about it and said fuck it, let it ride.
considering Bill was removed from presidency by house republicans for receiving a blowjob it would take a special idiot to not expect him to pound that button and hard.
Clinton was impeached but not convicted. If he was convicted and removed from office then we would have had a president Al Gore.
What? He was never removed as President.
Yeah I don’t know why but I’ve seen this fallacy repeated recently a couple of times.
he’s still presidenting away quietly now and you had to ruin it
Bill has already been implicated to as close to the max as the Trump FBI could do imo. I have no sympathy for a narcissist claiming to want transparency only when it serves to help him bury his own actions. It’s fine to simultaneously agree with an asshole without giving them undue credit.
I’d say it seems more like a spite driven resolution of some unspoken mutually assured destruction situation than an attempt to distract from his own crimes, but it’s certainly some mixture of both. I hope they destroy each other but somehow I doubt any of this will end up sinking them.
Someone here is already claiming he’s sacrificing himself to “save a nation” in this thread, and its the top post. These people are so really out of touch with reality and are ready to idolize anyone that appeals to their narrative.
It’s so obvious he only wants it so he can divert some attention away from him rather being the only one being taunted.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a single Democrat say they would defend Bill Clinton in person lol. It’s wild how the right is pretending we deeply care about bill. I won’t care if he burns over this; I sure hope their cult leader does too. Fuck 'em both. But yeah like they clearly released everything about Clinton and it’s not nearly as wretched as Trump raping the 14 year old pregnant girl and then participating in killing her baby.
I have to believe these people used black highlighter so this stuff could come to light. The alternative of them being this stupid is wild to me.
Maybe he’s just calling Trump’s bluff. Trump won’t release Bill things cause it would also implicate Trump.
He is calling for releasing all files related to himself.
People seem to have the crazy theories that he is going Kamikaze and taking trump with him, but maybe there indeed isn’t much on Clinton?
I agree with you. The only tinfoil hat angle is that he knows the only incriminating pictures of himself also have Trump in them. And that brings us back to the “Trump blowing bubba” thing.
Yeah, this is what I was getting at. Definitely tinfoil hat logic.
Someone willing to put themselves up as a sacrifice to prevent the full collapse of the nation. If only it where more common.
Or there isn’t actually damning evidence of Bill raping children. His whole scandal and impeachment was about a voluntary blowjob from a consenting adult.
It could also be that he doesn’t think it will actually be released and is playing the odds.
To be fair, Lewinsky has come around to saying the power imbalance was too high for her to have meaningfully consented, and I’ve been thinking that since I was a kid in the 90s. But yeah, she was in her early 20s, still young but not a child
I mean, I understand the imbalance of power dynamic, but you’ve also hit on a strong point that she was in her early 20s. We shouldn’t infantilise adults by assuming that they don’t have the power to enforce consent when they’re fully cognisant of the gravity, nature and consequences of sexual activities that they engage in. If that’s the case, then we need to raise the age of consent to at least 25.
That too, just the fact that he said go for it instead of pulling every stunt possible to hide things is a fine start for me. As I recall it the impeachment was officially for lying about it to congress, but they would have taken any reason to cast stones at the guy.
Fun fact, despite the GOP claiming to be that party of fiscal responsibility, Clinton was the last president to actually have a balanced budget. Add in now that they’re trying to use Clinton as a scapegoat while claiming ‘part of morality’ while the guy in office has been accused multiple times, caught on tape ‘grab em by’, and those are even before the current files.
It’s almost like they’ve been talking out their ass for decades.
If there is any evidence the only chance he has to go down with a little less shit on his persona is by owning up and being that sacrifice.
But yeah, I have kinda always felt like he was an easy “you know this guy was in on it” target because of the BJ
It could also be that he doesn’t think it will actually be released and is playing the odds.
Who would be so charitable and risk last years with the stress and ruined legacy just to attack someone who did the same thing.
The fact that all trump published was just pictures from public events that were already known (one (where there also was Michael Jackson) wasn’t even related to Epstein) tells me there’s not much on Clinton there, because if there was I’m sure he would release something fat at this point.
Let’s be totally honest here, if it turns out Bill is a pedophile, he should be prosecuted and thrown in prison like anyone else.
Good to sacrifice him to save the country, but no pedophiles are food people, and none should be given any mercy.
We are on the same page here. Anyone involved in this is corrupted or in unlikely case they aren’t, there’s plenty of material to corrupt them.
Even if we ignore (yeah I know) the horrible crimes against those kids, those people never represent interests of the people, because with such blackmail material they will belong to whomever has it.
It doesn’t matter what party they are. This is another big reason why I support releasing all files and don’t have problem with “sacrificing” Democrats if there any.
Actually trump convinced me that perhaps Clinton wasn’t involved.
Yeah, Clinton definitively is a serial adulterer, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he is a pedo.
trump started investigation and this release was clearly tuned to attack Clinton. If there was something powerful on Clinton, why didn’t he released it? All really is there, are pictures from public events (fundraisers) that are already well known and even ones that has nothing to do with Epstein, but somehow got there.
Clinton since he was president has secret service following him, so even if he had intention to use Epstein’s services it would be kind of tough. He did attend fundraisers though, but Epstein also was known to be generous with donations.
Having said that, if Clinton really was involved, then fuck him, I want him in jail, but all I’m trying to say is that trump is now convincing me he probably wasn’t.
If there was something powerful on Clinton, why didn’t he released it?
It could also be that Trump is likely to face the same punishment Bubba does. If they hang Bubba in a public execution for diddling kids, meanwhile Trump knows he’s in the same files doing the same thing, well…
Seems the least likely though, because they typically don’t have that much foresight.
Let me repeat that in case the people in the back didn’t catch it. The people currently running our country don’t have the foresight to act two steps ahead.
Actually after writing this I learned that Clinton requested all documents about himself. That IMO further backs that this isn’t some kind of Kamikaze move to destroy trump, not it isn’t a 4D chess move counting trump won’t do it and that he is simply convinced there’s nothing incriminating about him in the files.
I don’t hold any special sympathy for Clinton and if he did those things I’m all for him dying in jail, but if there was something juicy about Clinton I think trump would already use it instead manufacturing evidence (like apparently the picture with him and MJ was an event not connected to Epstein).
Yeah, I’m starting to come around to this idea. He’d already gotten in enough trouble with his dick as governor. It’s likely he just knew better by the time he got involved with Epstein.
But of course everyone still wants the campaign cash.
I think it’s simple:
Bill was a decent president (relatively speaking) but all of his legacy is tied to that BJ incident.
He really doesn’t like that and wants some kind of event in which a lot of powerful people look worse or just as bad as him.
So if there is little on him or if there is some stuff but it’s not the worse, then he can come up on top by making his legacy about the one who shined a light on all this stuff.
It’s a win win for him unless he was worse than trump.
I’d say it’s not about being worse than trump. He wins unless he went below 18
It’s a win win for him unless he was worse than trump.
From what we’re seeing so far, I don’t think anyone was worse than Trump except maybe Epstein himself. There is some shit being leaked that made me genuinely sick to my stomach, and I’m a grown-ass man who’s been on the internet since it started.
Bill is most likely guilty of some bad shit, and should face prosecution or at least public shame, but he also knows that when we see what Trump was really up to, we won’t even care about Bill’s excursions.
Also, Bill is an old man at this point. Have you seen that guy lately? He’s not looking too great. Bill could genuinely be seeking to perform an act of contrition here. That is the type of thing people that actually possess a conscience tend to do as they reach the end of their lives.
He just wants the picture of him getting blown by Trump to be released.
Look… If this was ancient Rome, that was politically fine, so long as you were on top.
You’ve reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmI1MSmHFA0
Am I ootl on this one? Did Clinton advocate for an unredacted release?
After the Department of Justice released thousands of files related to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein in a tranche on Friday that included a number of decades-old photographs of former President Bill Clinton, a spokesperson for Clinton on Monday called on all of the files relating to Clinton to be released.
“Accordingly, we call on President Trump to direct Attorney General Bondi to immediately release any remaining materials referring to, mentioning, or containing a photograph of Bill Clinton,” Ureña added.
Release the bubba blowjob photos!
