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    Sometimes I go to .world to see what the state media dislikers are reading, and it’s kyivpost, kyiv independent, pravda ua…

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    RT News: Russia is good and Ukraine is evil.

    Bloomberg: The rich deserve all of your money and human rights.

    The words of RT news are entirely untrustworthy when it comes to the issues the Russian state cares about, and if it’s entirely irrelevant to the Russian state then one ought to question why Russian state media is talking about it. May as well listen to the words straight from Putin’s mouth.

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    Yeah, but they also hype nuclear war and tell everyone how cool it would be to bomb every major city in Europe. Its a pick your propaganda.

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        All that’s present is a false dichotomy between state propaganda and corporate propaganda, and the implication that people who choose corporate propaganda are idiots. This reads as apologia for consuming state propaganda, framed as media literacy. If it’s not, it needs more context.

        • There is no dichotomy, both RT and Western corporate media are billionaire run bullshit. Choosing one or the other is a losing game, you need to critically analyze all the information you are exposed to and cross reference.

          You are talking all your biases into it and reading information that is literally not present. This is just making fun of liberals in the US who comment on lemmy threads about RT being unreliable and not much else. The implication is really that the western media is equally unreliable. You are so propagandized that the mere mention of RT makes you leap to wild conclusions.

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      True, it would ideally be “local bourgeoisie vs international bourgeoisie” but I worry that would make the meme less comprehensible to non-marxists

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      I don’t think you understood the meme at all. It is someone pearl clutching about RT, namely people like yourself on lemmy.world on c/worldnews while not understanding it is the same bullshit they are currently reading. I never said RT wasn’t, in fact I’m implying they’re the same.

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    Don’t get second opinion syndrome. Just because the “good guys” are actually bad, doesn’t mean the “bad guys” aren’t also bad.

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      I am able to read and think critically. How can you understand anything if you don’t read it and apply critical thinking to it? If you just read one side of media you are missing part of the picture.

      I also don’t live where you do. I don’t think Russia is any worse than the US or Europe.

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      Good guys and bad guys don’t exist in real life though, because real life has no screenwriter. Better to learn the perspective of all parties and cross-reference them like an investigator

      Whoops lol just noticed your quotation marks, seems like you probably roughly agree

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        Indeed, I mean “good guys” and “bad guys” in the usual narrative !

        This kinda post is also stuck in a sort of a false dichotomy where you have to choose between the US or Russia. Why ?

        I’ll stick to Europe, personally, although I’m aware there’s lots of sucky stuff here as well.

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          Europe is essentially the vassals of the US Empire, so any pro-European stance is almost always in the context of perpetuating imperialism or trying to gain more leverage to no longer be vassals of empire. It’s impirtant to recognize that, in a conflict between Russia and the US Empire, the US Empire winning continues to fuel imperialism, while Russia winning results in a dramatically changed geopolitical field. In the context of bringing about socialism globally, the US Empire is by far the largest obstacle.

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            Don’t get me wrong, I’m not “pro-Europe” by any means. But I live here, and it’s generally quite nice for me.

            I don’t feel obligated to pick sides in this conflict, I have no delusions of having any influence on it. Whomever wins, wins, and we’ll deal with that if and when it happens.

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              That’s more a stance of intentional blindness, though, which as a strategy means you’ll never advance meaningful positive change. And Europe is fairly nice to live in for many people, precisely because Europe benefits from imperialism.

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    If a piece of information is important enough, somebody will physically go to my house and tell me. Otherwise I just avoid information altogether

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    ;)

    Billionaire mouthpieces are all the same even if you believe they are different.

    Fuck Russia and all its bullshit propaganda. Gtfo with this insane straw man no true Scotsmen begging the question super combo of logical fallacy.

    This is some fucking dumb shit right hyuh.

    The People are the Power. The rich are gonna learn it too late.

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      libs under OP’s post lying through their teeth implying that they equally apply critical thinking (if any) between bougie media outlets rather than just viscerally rejecting one that isn’t Western enough to their liking.

      Cut the shit, you libs don’t actually believe that they’re “all the same”.

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      straw man no true Scotsmen begging the question super combo of logical fallacy.

      This is like the exact opposite of magic words of power. Magic words of impotence