Now then, now then, don’t be trying to get ahead of us British colonizers! Our history is pretty murky. Something that is conveniently ignored, but gets you in hot water when you challenge our current fascists like Farage, Tommy Robinson and even mainstream leaders.
Truly, no one would ever fathom Europeans committing genocide.
I can it was called colonialism…
Thr USA killed way way way more than 10 million native americans. We will never know the true scale of the genecide because the majority of it was done through disease. Early settlers would deliberately trade goods contaminated with several european diseases that the natives had little or no resistance to, including small pox and several others I can’t remember off the top of my head. Explorers moving west described “virgin” country untouched by man, beautiful and bountiful, but they were wrong. What they saw was an environment shaped over thousands of years by humans for humans that once supported hundreds of millions of native americans, who were mostly dead by the time european explorers got there. The genecide everyone knows about was really just the end, picking off the stragglers. That was bad enough that it’s whitewashed in public schooling, but they don’t even teach the history of the biological warfare that did the vast majority of the work. In many ways the americas still bear the gaping wounds of european contact today. This place is built on a foundation genocide.
I say US needs to embrace French tradition and take up guillotines…
the french guillotine was used to kill more Africans and colonized people than any bourgeois or aristocrat
It’s not the tool’s fault
It was some Tool’s fault though.
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Sir this is internet. No one knows what they are saying
The underlying sentiment is right. Income inequality is higher than ever. Saying that we need to bring back guillotines is a simplified way of saying we need to solve the problem of concentration of wealth by plutocrats.
Yeah right, it’s an open call for widespread violence.
*Clutches pearls*
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There is currently widespread violence. It is the structural violence of poverty. Hundreds are being socially murdered everyday.
Killing an oligarch is a certainly a violent act, but it reduces the overall violence in the system.
Yeah, that’s totally the same as actual widespread violence. Pampered idiots have no idea what it’d be like to have to live somewhere like the way Ukraine has been.
Killing an oligarch does absolutely nothing. Sure, that’ll “reduce poverty”. Of course it’s that simple in your lazy, immature worldview.
Spare me your “I’m 14 and this is deep” bullshit.
Yeah, that’s totally the same as actual widespread violence.
Your daily reminder that shitlibs don’t consider the killing of poors to be “actual” violence
When Luigi killed that UHC oligarch, the company responded by lowering their claims denial rate by 1-2%. UHC processes hundreds of millions of claims every year.
Do the math- the slaying of Brian Thompson meant that millions of claims that would have otherwise been denied were approved.
By killing one oligarch, hundreds of lives were saved. Perhaps even thousands.
We know this because Investors Are Pressing UnitedHealth Group to Deny More Care
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Were there not an Israel the USA would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region.
- Joe Biden, 1986
- Biggest AIPAC recipient who earned the nickname Genocide Joe and took all his orders directly from Tel Aviv like a spineless sack of sand.
In hindsight it’s very obvious why Biden said that but people still refuse to see the obvious truth.
Bigger than Trump?
Biden authorized humanitarian aid to Gaza despite Israel’s wishes, but let’s ignore everything that disagrees with your propaganda while we elect Trump, who is in no way better for Palestinians.
Genocide apologia
Was it direct aid or aid Isreal needed to allow in? Because it is amazing how no aid seemed to get in under Biden while he loved to cover for war crimes
it’s amazing and deeply upsetting that shitty little pier that floated away in the first rainstorm is still effective propaganda for people like you
Hitler could have convinced you he was the second coming of christ if you were born there and then
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I think you mean we’re just really good at manifesting our destiny in His name.
America definitely wouldn’t be doing it this brazenly without AIPAC. In all their previous genocides they fought for a major objective and managed to keep their propaganda alive.
Now it’s all falling apart for a miniscule landgrab for a settler colony while not lending the weapons to Israel but giving it all for free.
See Ukraine as an example for what realpolitik looks like. Gaza is not it.
They support and punish specific politicians and groups but AIPAC isn’t the driver, Zionism is an essential part of the US policy in the MENA region. Israel is essentially a colony of the US and it’s allies. They would be happy to do it less openly like they had been for decades, keeping Palestine subjected but not aggravating onlookers too much, but the right wing in Israel are blood-thirsty genociders.
There’s also the difference of access to information. The genocide in Gaza is one of the most televised genocides ever. Because people are able to see the truth of what’s happening and not just the propaganda that’s pushed, it means that it’s much harder for the Israeli and USA governments to control the narrative (like hiding the fact that the right wing in Israel is a bunch of blood-thirsty genociders)
Zionism is an essential part because Israel has told politicians it is. Even if it was essential, not obeying every Israel command doesn’t mean Zionism goes bye bye.
Look at the UAE, Qatar and Saudi. They PAY they US to be proxy bases. The host US army personell and weapons and pay for it. And then Israel bombs Qatar that’s completely insane. People really don’t understand how bad that was geopolitics wise.
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I guess all war is genocide? What a stupid take. If thats the case you dont really care about war or Genocide, actually I know you dont because your username is ALHouthi4President.
There are some dam stupid people on this site and they almost always come from @lemmy.ml
You seem to imply that wars are okay, as long as they aren’t genocide? Is that what you’re using to defend?
So then just kill/bomb indiscriminately, and you’re golden,right? What kind of rhetoric are you trying to bring that makes you think either is acceptable?
ML is no place for discussing Chinese or Russian policies, but they’re good at exposing stupid wankies deflections like yours.
Remember how hard you fuckwits tried to hide the Gaza genocide like you did in Afghanistan and Iraq?
We’re fed up with your moral posturing.
Stop killing people indiscriminately, okay?
you seem to imply that wars are okay, as long as they aren’t genocide?
Nowhere did I imply that all wars are okay. I implied that the person who posted this meme is only pretending to care about the consequences of war.
moral posturing over a complete strawman
Dam dude you really owned that strawman im sure it will reconsider its entire moral framework and stop killing people indiscriminately.
The only events called “genocide” in this post are native Americans and gazans. The rest are similarly abhorrent massacres which aren’t categorized as genocides but serve to show the complete lack of morals on the US establishment.
Maybe learn to read a post before complaining about the poster.
I’m from Asia we invented genocide.
USA is an interesting empire. Will be studied for millenia. Thinking 100 or 150 more years left. Could be shorter we’ll see. Probably just turn into an ex super power, with little South American skirmishes everywhere…wait
Here’s a cool book about it related to the meme (and it’s got an appropriate title).
Yet, they still manage to have concern for Uyghurs, who they didn’t know existed until imperial core propaganda started manufacturing bullshit about them.
As someone said, the empire hates chinese people and muslims, but for some reason they seem to love muslim chinese
How about condemning that as well instead of defending it, because US did other heinous things?
You also going to start demanding we condemn the “white genocide” in South Africa?
Sorry, I trust the OIC and it is highly suspicious that the only concerned countries are both islamophobic and sinophobic with only a few exceptions.
I only condemn things that actually happened
Why don’t you apologize for beating your wife?
Why would I condemn something that didn’t happen? Previously:
You can’t bring us evidence because there isn’t any.
The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once its efforts failed, it made lemonade out of its lemon by concocting and promoting a genocide narrative.
The only countries pushing this narrative are the “always the same map” imperial core countries, which just so happen to be largely the same ones supporting Israel’s genocide.
Almost no predominantly-Muslim country buys the Uyghur genocide narrative, because they know it’s bullshit, because they talked to the Uyghurs themselves.
https://twitter.com/un_hrc/status/1578003299827171330#HRC51 | Draft resolution A/HRC/51/L.6 on holding a debate on the situation of human rights in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of #China, was REJECTED.
- The Uyghur Human Rights Project is a product of the National Endowment for Democracy, which is the American government’s main regime change NGO.
- A Reddit AMA Claiming To Be A Uyghur Quickly Exposes A CIA Asset Slandering China
- The Xinjiang Genocide Allegations Are Unjustified
- Uyghur genocide allegations
- American Debunks All Major Western Propaganda on Uyghurs and Xinjiang
- US-Funded Uyghur Activists Train as Soldiers of Empire
- The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
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Reason: Breaks Community RulesYou’ll have to be more specific, reporter. Which community rules?
Says who? China?
Says everyone but the imperial core, which represents ~12% of the world:
The media that have lied about Palestine are the very same media who lied about Xinjiang.
📺 You’re Not immune To propagandaaka places aliens are allowed to attack in Hollywood films
Ok, so Poland seems to recognize it and is not in the “core”…
Turkey seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …
Taiwan seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …
Ukraine seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” … Ukraine actually said that after they did China threatened to limit trade and block scheduled delivery of 500,000 covid vaccine doses.
Czech Republic seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …
Actually looking at the countries supporting and not supporting it looks like divide is more between democracies and dictatorships.
Those countries are in the core or the semi-periphery, depending on who you ask. They’re in the liminal space between the core and the periphery. They have “favored vassal” status, and won’t bite the hand that feeds them.
Correct, the dividing line is between Democracy and Autocracy,
between the Garden and the Jungle,
between the imperialists and the anti-imperialists.You’re saying that Russia and China is anti-imperialistic? One actively is trying to exterminated a country and another is preparing to do the same likely in 2027.
Turkes does not recognize it afaik
Every country on earth is a dictatorship: either a dictatorship of the rich or a dictatorship of the proletariat
Poland is literally on that map you illiterate fucking chud
Well his map doesn’t match the map in the article he posted. I can also push bunch of random shit that doesn’t agree with each other and then argue the person ignored “evidence”.
You know damn well he is full of shit. You are criticizing one imperialistic country while defending other even more genocidal ones.
They clearly answered that in their post, you lazy chud
Why don’t you actually spend some time reading the sources that he sent you? It’s actually really interesting and I urge you to read it.
I would particularly recommend this video where an American debunks the majority of the lies manufactured by the west, he uses primary sources or sources that link to primary sources in all situations that he can and you can read through his sources if you wish.
Just a bunch of Twitter, substacks etc. as much reputable as comments here.
Can you please link to the sources that you have decided are not reputable, I am interested in discussing them further. And if you are so certain there is a genocide in Xinjiang china can you provide proof that there is indeed genocide?
So, at least as reputable as anything you say then.
It’s the UN Human Rights Council’s Twitter account, you twit.
If you’re expecting corporate media links, you’re out of luck, because just as corporate media are loathe to call what’s happening in Palestine a genocide, they’re loath to call what happened in Xinjiang anything but.
Please develop some actual media literacy.
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Says the OIC.
Isn’t it odd that the countries that enable genocide and wage war on Muslim countries killing hundreds of thousands in the past decades are somehow very concerned about the welfare of Muslims in China? Even Western-aligned Muslim countries have condemned invasions and war crimes by Western countries, even those with a Western military presence. But somehow they are afraid to condemn China?
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