I’ve read in an Article that meat production causes a lot of co² emission. Now I was wondering if we stopped eating meat completely, would that be sufficient to get under the threshhold of emissions what the planet can process? What is that threshold? Where are we now? How much does meat add to this?
Don’t lose sleep over individual contributions. It’s the corporations that need to change behaviour. Put your energy into fighting them.
I ask myself: How much does this cost me and how big is the effect… in this particular example the costs are close to zero and the impact, even if small, is there. So the Cost/effect ratio is blowing up to infinity at zero cost.
That’s why I’m fighting the animal agriculture industry by not giving them any of my money.
Corporations are only producing things that people want. I’m all for strict regulation, but “blame the corporations and not yourself” is a huge copout. Especially when reducing your meat consumption is one of the single most impactful things you can do to reduce your effect on the climate.
Think of EVs. Corporations didn’t want to manufacture them but people acting together forced them to. Then it only took a handful of people to let them drop it again (in the us).
If protectionism against Chinese made vehicles ever ends, GM and Ford are going to disappear overnight. They keep insisting on focusing on smaller quantity of less variety of more expensive vehicles, and resisting modernization
This exactly!!
Corporations caused this problem by buying politicians that created regulations favorable to them. They are the only entities big enough to fix this problem, for instance, by recapturing gases like methane. I refuse to be held responsible for simply eating.
That’s backwards.
People select what to buy from a list of things offered. I want a rabbit sandwich. Stores only sell pig, cow, and chicken. Of course it’s going to look like everyone likes pig cow and chicken.
I want an electric car under $30k. I want a phone that isn’t made by children.
“But if enough people want it the market will provide” - ignores everything about barriers to entry and greed.
I also believe that the marketing complex adds a lot of bias to the scene here. if you’re being brainwashed/hypnotized into wanting chicken sandwiches and then buy it, you can’t really say it was your choice, no?. i think people often forget how much money is pumped in commercials, and thats not because “sales go up a bit”. I truly think marketing has gotten to a point where we should regulate it.
A person wants a rabbit sandwich, no one’s gonna offer it. If people want rabbit sandwiches, they would be sold.
If, over the course of some time, people reduced their meat consumption by 25%, do you think meat companies would continue to raise and slaughter the same number of animals or would they reduce their stock to match what was being purchased?
You don’t need to wait for trust busting or regulation to consume less meat. You can do it today, of your own will.
I don’t believe that. The market is only good at meeting needs that make a certain amount of profit. Automation and tooling have forced us into a box that prevents interesting alternatives. Also, we’ve been programmed to be against some of those alternatives.
I’m already vegetarian, so I agree. But again, we’re talking about me buying things that are available. There are alternatives to meat, of course. Eating beef is completely unconcible. But a reasonable society would be investing heavily in lab grown beef to protect the environment. We aren’t. The profit isn’t there.
Yea but not what you or I want. Or else they wouldn’t have turned turned the entire tech industry into an AI Ponzi scheme.
https://iiasa.ac.at/news/may-2025/worlds-wealthiest-10-caused-two-thirds-of-global-warming-since-1990
Corporations exist to create value for their shareholders. AKA the people responsible for 2/3s of pollution.
We can all eat shit and die and corporations will still cut that shit with the last of the Amazonian sawdust.
Corporations killed localized food supplies and all but eliminated traditional perennial crops that provided a lot of the nutrition we now get from meat/dairy.