• Redkid1324@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Ok interesting points thank you for that.

    Now, legitimate question not just what aboutisms, Obama did some things like this using fisa court stuff if I’m not mistaken is that not considered legal then? How would that be handled?

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      3 days ago

      Seriously the important difference is that Maduro is the Venezuelan president. Abducting him like this is an attack on the government itself, on Venezuela as a country. Big difference between attacking part of the government and attacking its citizens.

      I don’t know all that Obama did and the FISA courts were/are sketchy as hell, but one big difference in the “right way” to do this kind of thing is to coordinate with the foreign government and get their okay to enter the country and arrest their citizens. That’s simply not possible with a president, unless you’re intentionally supporting a coup. Which … this kinda is except there was no other group looking to take power.

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      3 days ago

      Pretty much all international law is mostly a fictional construct, especially for major powers. Legality is dictated from the pulpit, and there is no overruling globalized government.

      However, imo pretty much anything that a secret court dictates is a legal fiction dreamed up to legitimize illegal/morally decrepit actions.

      How would that be handled?

      The same way the current predicament will be… There may be some geopolitical blowback, but no one is going to hold anyone accountable.