Funny and all, but interesting, the life span of appliences has remained fairly steady: https://studyfinds.org/appliances-made-to-last/
The study (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/share/EWYZVBTQDFJXHTV9PPUQ?target=10.1111%2Fjiec.13608) found that most appliances last a similar number of years, and that the number of cycles each appliance lasts has increased (ie we use them more often). notable exception was a stove.
Basically, survivorship bias.
Microsoft just basically tried to force most everyone using a Windows 10 system to purchase a new system, ostensibly over a flaw/shortcoming in the TPM module.
Samsung just started pushing advertisements into their fridge’s Android displays.
Apple and the mobile ISPs have been pushing a ‘replace every two years’ agenda for well over a decade.
I think the ‘short life span’ here has more to do with the ‘modern CPU fridge controller’ “failing” due to planned obsolescence, and not as such the mechanics of the refrigerant systems themselves.
I mean, sure? but pretty much everyone of your examples is about general computing, and while i HATE the samsung fridge thing… it doesnt mean it will die any earlier.
Yes, but these new smart fridges are just classic fridges with a general purpose computer attached. Do you think Samsung is going to offer a replacement/upgrade kit for the embedded tablet, or do you think they’ll use it as leverage to sell you a new fridge?
Still doesn’t change when the physical components are likely to die.
You are telling me I’m going to have to replace my car because it’s infotainment unit is out of date.
If the infotainment system doubles as the gearshift as a deliberate way to marry the two, yes! Try driving a Tesla (well don’t because of bad corporate ownership; but still, as example):
- The steering wheel isn’t connected to the wheels, it’s connected to the computer.
- The windshield wipers are controlled by the computer.
- Everything in the security system checks in by the computer.
- The car can be remotely disabled by the computer
If they can make a vroom vroom box dependent on a computer, why do you think a chill box is exempt?
- “I’m sorry, but the temperature control requires registering an account in the app”
- “Oh, the in-door icebox needs a subscription, but you’re welcome to use trays in the freezer if you prefer”
- “You missed your installment payment, please pay in 3 days or cooling functionality will be suspended”
- “The child door lock has been automatically engaged for your safety”
- “The fridge of the future requires an always on internet connection”
You think CEOs aren’t just itching to pull crap like this? What use is it if the motor technically operates, if the controls simply refuse to turn it on?
I’m sorry, but I’m talking about the real world, where things actually happen.
I already shared you the study on lifespan of appliances over the decades, and how the old ones we still working are usually due to survivorship bias, I’m not sure what more you want.
I’m just not interested in arguing made up hypotheticals.
Excuse me. I was a few days early … now can we discuss this?
https://apnews.com/article/ces-worst-show-ai-0ce7fbc5aff68e8ff6d7b8e6fb7b007d
“Everything is an order of magnitude more difficult,” she said of the fridge that also uses computer vision to track when food items are running low and can advertise replacements.
The South Korean tech giant also said “security and privacy are foundational” to the AI experiences in the fridge.
Brought a carpet cleaner in July. The wheels literally fell off in December.
A Hoover.
Dysons are the first vacuum cleaner that I don’t actively loath. They’re not perfect, but they’re built to… actually work well.
Bought a refurbished stick one about 8 years ago and its still going strong after a battery replacement (its modified to use my power tool batteries now, same voltage so no hassle). I’m just happy I can get replacement parts easily.
Dyson
It’s just too bad about his politics.
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Just not for very long. Get a Miele and be done with it.
Been through this.
After an allergy test revealed that I had a dust allergy I bought a Dyson to replace our cheap generic vacuum cleaner and thought it was the bee’s knees. Then the power switch went. And it would clog the power head constantly. Then, at about 10 years old it packed it in completely when the motor died.
Replaced that with a Miele which hasn’t missed a beat. So much so we bought a second when we moved into our current house (one for upstairs, one for downstairs, I’m lazy). In terms of suction they are the same or better, but ergonomically they shit all over the Dyson. Not as purple though.
That isn’t my experience. Bought two, one six years ago, one three years ago, both still work perfectly. Sold one of them recently for half what I paid for it.
First I’ve heard of Miele. I’ll look into it, but the reason why I got Dysons in the first place was constantly hearing others rave about them.
On my second Dyson, not sure why I bought a second one. Thing is always getting jammed up with hair and needs complete disassembly to clean it out, and batteries will only last two years before needing replacement. All the joints are very loose as well now. Will be going with the Miele HX2 at some point soon which is actually cheaper than some of the Dyson.
From experience, the filtering cyclones in the mieles are quite a bit worse than the Dyson.
If you want a good and lasting vacuum, don’t buy a cordless one. When looking at corded vacuums, miele is definitely one of the better options.
The cordless sticks, and stick vacuums in general are not built to be BIFL. Doesn’t matter what brand you get.
Read the reviews. HX2 isn’t that much better reviewed and it costs a hell of a lot more.
I’ve had mixed results. Mine started becoming far less efficient after about 3 years. I tried regular maintenance to no avail, and I took it completely apart and cleaned the venturi. It got kinda better. Then a year later, I used it to vacuum up some curry powder, and from then on it smelled incredibly strong of curry.
It still wasn’t cleaning all that well. It had stopped picking up pet hair, then the high-speed bearing started making noise. Taking the lower assembly apart was way too involved and the replacement motor itself would be 1/4 of the price I paid.
I ended up getting a cheap bagless Shark at costco. Self cleaning brushes, cheap two-stage filter. Thing runs like new 4 years in.
I’d rather have gotten a Miele, but the price just wasn’t in the cards at the moment.
I do think their stick vacs are a little better though
The old Dysons are way better than whatever the hell they’re doing nowadays. I could genuinely feel the difference in the plastic quality when I moved from an older DC 39 to a newer Big Ball (the Big Ball’s is significantly worse). Not to mention the Big Ball has gone through two roller heads (both had the mechanism break). No wonder their newer cordless models have a 2 year warranty instead of the old corded 5 year. They used to be really good, if a bit expensive, but now the options from Bosch and Miele look far more attractive.
Ugh all appliances are such crap now. I want an old vacuum that lasts a lifetime from the 80s. They were much better.
You clearly aren’t thinking about the investors. How would the lines go up?
Same make and model as the last one. The first lasted about ten years, the second didn’t make it ten months.
Just get a Miele.
Was surprised to see this here. But yes absolutely, they are expensive don’t get me wrong. But they are worth it. Their shit just works, i have their washer and heat pump dryer, dishwasher, and CX1 canister vacuum. Each are the best version of that thing I’ve ever used. Dishwasher will clean anything no rinse/soak needed even for baked on pasta or cheese, vacuum is powerful but also shockingly quiet, dryer sips power (700w avg load) but dries everything just fine.
Had em for the years now, i am NOT gentle with the vacuum i drag it outside to clean the car and other various things it’s not really for, toss it around use it as a footstool sometimes and it shows no signs of the wear. You get what you pay for with them
Miele makes just as many shitty products as anyone else, their “top of the line” and industrial products are great though. Same thing with Bosch and Siemens.
Henry
Numatic has a whole family. Hetty, Charles, George.
Henry! Henry Aldrich!!
Im imagine the “made in Britain” scene from the IT crowd
Never saw it, but I think I get the idea
They buy a computer monitor “made in Britain” which immediately catches on fire. They grab the fire extinguisher but it doesn’t spray anything. He looks and it also has a “made in Britain” sticker. Once he looks at… The fire extinguisher catches on fire.
The scene where Moss calmly sits down to compose the email gets me every time
I’ll just put this fire over here with the other fire…
I heard that in Moss’ voice of course
I’d be disappointed if not
Thanks
The whole scene is solid gold, but the bit with the “made in Britain” is around 0:35.
EDIT: And in case you’re wondering what’s the number he was typing when trying to call emergency services, check this scene out.
In these modern times, lots of people don’t have many phone numbers memorized. We just keep contacts in our phones, so we forget those numbers over time. I have a few that I still have confidently memorized.
The IT Crowd new emergency services number is one of them.
you have 5 seconds to get Jenny on the line.
Thanks
A Hoover that sucks? heh
Actually, it doesn’t. Supposed to spray water and then vacuum it up. That feature works half the time.
Another tip, as long as you don’t tild it. You can use it straight away. And if you leave the door open, it can be stored sheltered outside!
I have a refrigerator that’s been here since we moved in a decade ago… my parents were too frugal to replace it and sometimes icecream would melt…
Also the bathtub area in the 2nd floor is sometimes leaking downstairs and its still not fully fixed.
Also the heater is kinda broken every year and my dad has to use a temporty fix that eould often stop working a few times through the winter.
Also I had a window AC in the living room that didn’t work for like 8 years until it got replaced recently. So it was hot as hell downstairs, so sometimes I ate in my room where the AC worked lol.
Also walls and celings have cracks.
And this is not even the worst place I lived in. I’ve been to worse
Hear me out: cover it in foil tape, like the kind used for HVAC. instant “modern” fridge
They actually do sell peel and stick “stainless steel” covers which should work well on a fridge since it has no parts that get hot in the front and sides.
Modern fridges use the sides to increase heat transfer surface and improve overall efficiency.
The sides get ‘hot’ for me.
Survivorship bias. Most 40-year-old fridges are not working anymore.
Bunch of lazy fuckers, taking up retirement
Bet they would be if people put a little effort into fixing them. Now people throw them out at the slightest issue, or just to get another for aesthetic value. Only reason I tossed my old fridge, which was newish, was that I could no longer fight the 4-5 separate issues it had.
Or when you get tired of the ads on the new one.
Sure I’ll just get rid of my Lamborghinis for some space in my garaaage.
Don’t cheap out on your Lamborghinis, just build a second garage for them or your refrigerator!
Fun fact, that “guy in his garage” was Tai Lopez. He and a partner later bought the RadioShack and Pier 1 brands, and as of September, are facing charges for defrauding investors in a ponzi scheme.
gotta keep some of your Knowledge in the fridge too. Cuz that’s the most valuable thing
We had a $2k fridge that broke within a few years of owning it. We got it fairly discounted due to a dent in the side.
Our $150 fridge from Sears is still in the garage, and still runs perfectly after owning it for 13 years. Looks pretty much like the one in the pic.
Smart fridges will die faster because it has much more tech that can go wrong.
Mine wasn’t a smart fridge, but yeah I agree.
Plus built-in obsolescence and surveillance capitalism.
You can also use it as a backup for when your new fridge plays a two-minute ad before you can open it.
grabs shotgun “play one more fucking ad, I dare you”
Stuck on step one, where do I get a garage
Start a tech company. They spawn garages as part of their “backstory” stage.
Obviously look for signs for garage sales 😜
🥁✨
“I will take this space for $5”
“uhh the garage itself isn’t for s-”
shows gun “I said I will take it for $5”
Wait… This revealed an old memory… Wasn’t this actually a sketch on the original animaniacs?
Dexters Laboratory had a bit like this.
Atleast I’m creative and original
3-year-old fridge went out two weeks ago. Guy finally showed up to put the compressor in today. Left and it started rattling. Help.
He didn’t remove the air iirc
I had to have my jazz board replaced twice on a very expensive Amana fridge. I don’t know the answer.
If you’re being serious try shimming it, determine where the noise is and chuck a block between. My brand new Whirlpool rattles because the floor is uneven so I have a small piece of wood between the floor and front bottom piece which takes care of it.
I am lol. It sound like a loose belt in a car motor just slapping rapidly. I may look into your idea (and thank you), but since we bought it it has been through two homes and many positions on the kitchen floor and the sound never occurred before this technician got in there and replaced the compressor. I’m not confident it’s the position. Sounds like something loose deep inside.
Call there asses back and tell them to fix your shit properly.
lol we did. I think they’ll be around at the end of the week.
Yeah, good luck given the prices of garages these days.
My husband bought this house from the 1940s that we currently live in about 11 years ago, and it came with a fridge from the 90s. Its not pretty, but it worked then and it still works now, so we just never bought a new fridge.
Never really made sense to us to drop hundreds (thousands?) of dollars on a new fridge just for the aesthetics, so we didn’t. Even tho we’ll get some comments from our moms about it every now and then…
Make sure you clean the dust off the coils (usually on the back) once in a while and make sure it’s not too close to the wall. It helps the compressor not run as much, increasing its life.
Crap. Haven’t looked at mine in some time. Welp, fixing the door on it tonight, guess that’s my time to check. Thanks for the reminder!
Appreciate the tips! I’ve never bothered to look at maintenance (other than changing water filter). Gonna check that out tomorrow.
silly naive lemmy user. Garages are for renting out at $1000/mo
