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    the school went on lockdown after federal agents were spotted in the area

    I just want to call attention to the fact that this is where we are as a country. The mere presence of federal employees is causing schools to go into lockdown.

    If that’s not a clear indication that things are broken, I don’t know what is.

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        We can’t really know what the non-eligible voting population believes, but in the 2024 General Election, ~34% voted Republican, ~32% voted Democrat, ~1% voted 3rd party, and ~33% didn’t vote.

        It’s more like at least a third of the country loves this, probably a little more although I have to imagine that some Republicans have soured on Trump, and that not all Republicans share the cult of personality idolization.

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        This cant be overstated enough. 70 million people absolutely love what’s happening.

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            It killed lots of them, but it had weakened by the time it spread to the rural states so it didn’t kill as quickly as the first wave in the big cities.

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              I’m still impressed that bird flu hasn’t made the jump to humans yet, that would be an extremely aggressive disease that would kill a lot of people, as most diseases that jump from animals to humans. Republicans have been lucky that their cuts to any and all disease controls haven’t resulted in it spreading freely

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        Much less than half, but they are a very noisy and emboldened group.

        If you can get the apathetic and politically uninvolved to start caring, you can easily outnumber the MAGAts.

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          Good luck. They think by not caring, the country will fix itself and then justify not caring because everything’s falling apart. Makes no sense.

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    America is definitively passed their point of no return. I personally like many think that was a long time ago but there are still people out there who cannot internalize it. They’re in denial.

    The world is trying to tell you guys this. Yes, you will have to put your body on the line. You will miss work. You will miss your bills. You’ve already lost so much. You will lose more. It’s a foregone conclusion. The question is what can you salvage at the point.

    No, telling the rest of us to put our own bodies on the line will not change your situation. Ukrainians have no choice but to fight their oppressor. Gazans have no choice but to fight for their lives. America is no exception. You’ve slid into fascism. You have to fight for your freedom now.

    You never were the exception. This mentality has been your undoing. The system isn’t fixing itself because of some higher innate quality of being American. You have proven this yourselves. You tried voting. It didn’t work. You tried protesting. It didn’t work. You tried your systems of checks and balances. They’ve all been torn the shreds.

    You will fight like the rest of the world fights for their freedom. The idea of American peace, liberty, and justice for all was a fun fantasy while it lasted. Your own weapons of oppression are pointed at you. It’s time to wake up to reality now. This is the America that the rest of the world knows.

    Maybe now Americans will understand those around world didn’t hate you because you were better. They hate you because of the very oppression you now face yourselves.

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    “They don’t care. They’re just animals. I’ve never seen people behave like this.

    You know it’s fucking dire if someone that works at a school says that.

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      I wish I could agree with you, but when I worked at a campus, I heard teachers make similar remarks about children of color.

      “They care about teaching and keep the kids safe,” were among the reasons why these teachers should get to keep their jobs.

      I’d think that silently forcing a child to accept their fate due to systemic racism due to your biases would be considered an act of aggression, but apparently I was at fault for reporting this behavior.

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        Okay, but they’re not saying that about a child of color. They’re saying it about DHS coming in and throwing people to the ground. I’m sorry that happened to you, but it’s not really relevant.

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          Huh, there seems to be a resounding “fuck you” to my previous comment. I think I may have either read too deep into your original comment, or I’m missing something that’s implied.

          I read your comment as, “teachers are practically Mr. Rogers and it speaks volumes that they’d disparage anyone.” Did I misunderstand?

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      Stress fucks up your academic performance something fierce. I don’t blame you for having poor grades. I got fired in my first Trump term.

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      The irony is that in a lot of states you’d be reported to the police for truancy and missing too much school. -Yet another way to put a target on your back.

      • Yes, depression and fucking household issues. So much fucking yelling in the house.

        I not exactly in a good mood right now so I don’t bother to use proper grammer.

        I’m dreading a Chinese Exclusion Act 2.0 and also busy helping with family stuff… and I get yelled at a lot by my parents because I “didn’t do the stuff correctly”

        Depression makes my mind kinda split into 2 languages so I kinda mixed things up lol

        Flashbacks to getting bullied in school

        Ugh

          • Highschool has been long done.

            I just took the GED instead.

            I did get accepted to Penn State but I had to withdraw due to depression. Because my family of origin is so unsympathetic to depression and because they’re from a culture that doesn’t understand mental health at all.

            Still surviving… but barely.

            I have to rely on family.

              • I did get an official depression diagnosis… by a PCP/ General Practicianer, not a psychaitrist.

                I was on Lexapro for a bit, then my emotions got out of control and I misused it… overdose on Lexapro… (in attempt to feel better, not really a suicide attempt), nothing really happened except I feel a bit weird and like… obviously I did not die. I did this several times… I told the doctor about these incidents, I was told to see an actual psychaitrist… so this is where I am right now…

                Idk who to trust lol

                Fun fact: My mom keeps blaming me for my “self harm” and she said it was my fault for overdosing.

                Hmm guess who was the one that set up this toxic home environment?

                But I can’t even confront her about it… the power dynamic is so different… mom is always right about everything…

                This is just typical Chinese culture… nobody really understand mental health… it’s just so stigmitized.

                You’re either completely insane, or you’re just lazy and “lying and faking it” to get out of responsibilities.

                I honestly have this morbid curiosity and wonder how my mom would feel if I actually kms.

                I wonder if she would actually feel bad about me dying.

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                  I understand why you’d feel that way. As far as we know though it doesn’t look like you’d get to find out if she did or not. I suspect she would! Bad parenting can still be well intended with really poor execution.

                  More importantly, I suspect others would miss you.

                  And the main thing that has kept me un-un-aliving is the research showing how (1) those who attempt it, most often regret it and (2) that an objectively life-changing decision is being made on impulse. Think long term if you can friend.

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        No need to be jealous. You’ll get that GED someday. Hopefully ICE won’t be around to join by then.

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    The behaviour of ice and the dhs fits the definition of terrorism: “the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims”. State terrorism is still terrorism.

    Nazi Germany prior to the Reichstag fire was kinda like the usa now: thugs on the street harassing civilians of chosen outgroups without consequences, but the government was still ostensibly obeying laws and not yet mass disappearing people. I think usa republicans aren’t ready yet to have their Reichstag fire moment, but it just seems like a matter of time. Their expansion of ice seems pretty much unopposed & their take over of government agencies + army/navy appears to be progressing steadily as well.

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      The question is, is the American public in the right mood to flip over to fascism when scared by the riechstag fire or flip against it?

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        Dude, we’ve already flipped. Dissent is punished and while most people aren’t okay with it, no one’s doing anything that will actually stop it.

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          as soon as the first shooting, disappearance happened, there shouldve been riots, instead we got peaceful and ineffective protesting, if the govt knows you arnt going to riot with threat of mass unrest, they are going to ignore the protest.

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        At the very least they’ll look on and offer ‘thoughts and prayers’.

        We already see the ‘sorry, I didn’t do this personally, the ‘good natured’ jokes about it because what else can you do at a time like this, how they ‘stand on the side of…’, the philosophical quotes whenever something happens.

        Can’t vote or protest though, nope, they might lose a job, or it’s their right not to, or it doesn’t make a difference.

        They’ll look on. Furthermore once it’s all done they’ll expect we quickly forget and forgive.

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      Our Reichstag fire was long ago, and it’s not about “Republicans”.

      The response to 9-11 is what some consider to be the “turning point”, the Patriot Act and what it created was a point of no return. (it made ICE, a surveillance state, Guantanamo concentration camp, and so much more). There is no better environment for fascism, it approves and supports fascism by design.

      If you somehow erased every Republican tomorrow, that fascist surveillance police state would remain, waiting to be used in the only way it can be used.

      Democrats won’t save you

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        oh yea, and the Ds never immediately repeal the things bush did in his 2 terms, they JUST KEPT IT around, as if like they need the thing to keep the masses complicit.

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        what some consider to be the turning point

        Yep. I remember those conversations, you’re right.

        Unfortunately it was also around the time the world was urging US citizens to vote in decent numbers and they were told to mind their own business, that not voting was a right.

        Democrats won’t save you

        The current ones won’t. The only way, outside collapse and rebuild which is undesirable, action from within government which won’t happen, stop work and participation protests peacefully by something like 60-70% of the population which won’t happen because Americans can’t endure hardship, is to vote out the current Democrats in primaries then vote those primaried in. That requires better than 80% turnout and sticking to the cause, cleaning out and rebuilding that party. Your system allows nothing else and it needs numbers because of the Electoral College problem.

        The fact is, had Americans not been so lazy with voting, it and now the world wouldn’t be here. That this is caused by simple laziness and lack of desire to vote will never be forgotten by me and it will always cloud my view of Americans. I’ll never again give any American citizen the benefit of the doubt.

        Edits: third paragraph

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          Okay, for sake of discussion let’s say everyone who can vote does vote.

          Why do you think that would improve things? The options are still A or B, and both options are pro-corporate police surveillance state.

          Even if these voters elected ONLY Democrats, and all of those Democrats were “the good ones” (let’s say they are New Deal Ds who are pro-union)…

          The behemoth would still be there, doing it’s thing. None of these elected reps would change this. There’s a massive black budget that most elected reps will never, ever see.

          Our political system has evolved to protect itself from interference, so it must be dismantled. All of it.

          And there are international monsters exerting their will, too. It’s a very big problem.

          I don’t give any nationality the benefit of the doubt, join us

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            Looks like you’re giving a brief and governed glance to the point of primaries.

            why do you think that would improve things

            Option A has better people.

            there’s still only option A and B

            Option A has now changed and yes, I said that, which as I also pointed out sets tge terms you have to fix it.

            the behemoth would still be there

            I assume by ‘behemoth’ you mean the capitalist influence problem. That’s why you put those people there, to legislate against that. You gave them a mandate. It takes time, it wouldn’t change overnight, but to assume that they wouldn’t is looking for excuses.

            none of these elected reps would change this

            But the Republicans can elect theirs and they can make the changes they want. Okay.

            More excuses for not trying.

            it must be dismantled

            Yes, and you only have three ways, outside voting in the people you want. The first is horrific, the second won’t happen from within and the third, the population won’t endure the hardship for.

            This is what I mean by excuses and laziness.

            It’s why nothing will be done and you’ll fall under it. You can’t even put trust in and take the easy option.

            Laziness doesn’t just mean ‘won’t work physically for money’.

            join us

            Pass

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              Pass

              I was just kidding, we all know that your nation lives under the heavy yoke of the USA. If only you were brave enough to protest and vote properly and destroy it!

              Oh well, until you do, the USA will gladly allow you to serve it for as long as you need.

              I will never give your nation the benefit of the doubt again, I’m afraid. :(

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                Champ none of this offends me, but I get it.

                brave enough to protest

                I have.

                and vote

                I did. Every election.

                the USA will gladly allow…

                Yeah? No shit Sherlock, it’s likely my government will follow you clowns, because of a fucking debt we owe over WW2. Not sure if you remember that cuntbucket, but we keep our word.

                Do I like that? Nope, but it is what it is.

                I will never give…

                I don’t care. That neans more to you than us sunshine, I give you the drum.

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                  Buddy, I’m not trying to offend you.

                  The only way you could find my post offensive is if it pertains to you. Whoopsie, I thought you were better than that!

                  I don’t care that you don’t care, Debbie Downer. Go sit in your corner and weep!

                  YOU MUST VOTE FOR THEM IT’S THE ONLY WAY

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          the CURRENT dnc, are pretty much complicit, and in line with the gop and thier donors. if you look at which senators, and house seats, a percentage of them are like chuck schumer and hakeem jefferies, DINOs. the minority leaders are just lightning rods to take attention away from the DINOs that are at risk of being primaried. and yes culture war bs, also helps the DINos too, keeps the plebs distracted as much it does the republicans. remember shcumers, had 8 non-electable Ds take the fall for reopening the government, it was to hide the other 13 senators, that were up for re-election this year.

          schumer dint want to do it himself, because it was too obvious to vote with the gop. a fun fact amy schumer is chucks cousin, and both are pretty much the same POS(one steals jokes material and the other shills for aipac).

          dems are too fickle to vote in lockstep like republicans do, they had the whole propaganda mahcine figure dout, dems never took advantage of social media, they are always banking on traditional methods, aka LAZY campaigning. from what we observed, DNC loves to coast by on some marginal insignificant wins, to keep the grift going, as probably coordinated by thier megadonors/gop back doors.

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            It’s great when people put effort into their replies and show they care about their country and politics. Thanks.

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    They’re going to schools because it’s a safe assumption no one has a gun.

    They want easy victims, and too many people still don’t understand what the phrase “stay dangerous” ever meant.

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      Yep, I also have a feeling they are singling out weak targets to appear strong, nationally and internationally: blackmail Ukraine, plan luxury resorts in Gaza, kill unarmed people unprovoked, kidnap the head of one of the weakest states on earth, threaten a starving country (Cuba), defund universities and humanitarian organizations.

      They can be seen kneeling when Putin offers a shoe to polish and when they have to play the victim of hostile trade.

      Sorry for going on a tangent. The frustration is real.

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    That protestor was fortunate that he wasn’t shot in the face.

    On a side note, if you’re participating in a protest, please wear reasonable shoes or even steel-toed boots, not SANDALS. This request is for your own safety, I’m not the fashion police.

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      There was more than that to her unpopularity, honestly. We need to be a little more serious about what lead us to this place if we hope to avoid another loss, if we get the chance to run a candidate again.