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It’s becoming increasingly clear why Harris chose him.
so he could stay in minnesota as governor?
Have the day you voted for 💋
Name -strangely, does not check out.
Oh you know the shit is going down when all the ML start coming back. What are you trying to promote this time that will crush the USA lol?
You joined 8 days ago. You have no room to talk about who belongs where.
Oh please. I’ve been here for years. I just get a new username every week.
It’s time to your own militias for self defense Minnesota et al.
Maybe if he says it enough times they’ll leave. Or maybe he should enforce the law in his state.
Wonder if it would work to declare a state of emergency and mobilize the MN national guard to safeguard civilians? If they are already deployed can the president deploy them?
They’ve already been mobilized. They’re guarding the Whipple Concentration Camp.
Got downvoted for claiming all he and other democrats were going to do was angrily Tweet.
They angrily Tweeted and made phone calls.
How surprising.
Unfortunately, Democrats have done nothing to build any forces loyal to democracy. They supported racist and violent cops that are loyal to Republicans, and those cops almost certainly won’t follow orders to arrest ICE agents. If anything they’re just going to collaborate, like they already have despite it technically being illegal. National Guard might be better, maybe, but they’re probably just going to help ICE suppress the protestors.
Who would he call upon to enforce the law?
The big myth that nobody analyzes nor tries to dispel in politics is that police (of any type) operate under democratic control.
They never have, and until qualified immunity is eliminated, they never will.
Elected officials (outside of the president…or hey, wait a second, couldn’t Walz pardon himself for state crimes?!) do not have such an immunity. So, the “orders” that the elected officials give police are basically suggestions, and that is how they receive and follow (or don’t follow) them.
Police in US is pretty much an organized crime group. If a politician threatens their status they all will simply go on strike. Reminds of when de Blasio supported protests against police killings and every cop turned his back on him during his speech.
If the police go on strike, our problems are solved. The police doing nothing is the best case scenario.
He needs to click his heels three times first. That’s why it’s not working.
he knows trump wants to declare martial law. and he knows trump could have him and his entire family murdered with one phone call. everyone’s waiting for someone to step up and show some leadership against fascism, and if it ever happens, it’s definitely not going to be someone in public office
Then what the fuck is this guy even for?
to make it look like there’s someone in charge who gives a rat’s ass about you. that’s usually fine–but not when a fascist con man rapist sack of shit is president. it doesn’t matter how many innocent citizens are murdered–walz will do nothing beyond complaining about it .
and he knows trump could have him and his entire family murdered with one phone call.
Yes, [REDACTED] brought up the Hortman assassination a propos of nothing on social media, and within 12 hours, Walz dropped out of the governor’s race quite unexpectedly. That was my first thought, that the regime has made its threat clear to him.
We have a federal government that is using mob/cartel tactics to terrorize people into submission.
This is not okay.
I’ll take no shit for five dollars, Alex
What is constipation, Trebek?
Haha that’s awesome
I think he should never have run. It would have been an unprecedented 3rd term.
These people literally ran for office specifically to represent the people. They shouldn’t be shy about putting things on the line
We’re kinda at the do nothing and be murdered or do something and then maybe get killed for it stage.
Starting to seem like trying is the better option
I mean on the other hand, Trump kind of does want violent resistance to spring up so provide the Reichstag burning he’s been waiting for to amplify the cracking down. I mean, they kinda already had the Charlie Kirk shooting, and he kind of already can institute martial law whenever (it’s not constitutional but neither has been a single thing he’s done lately), and martial law won’t really lead to anything on its own anyway… I dunno, let’s keep resisting in effective ways. One idea is to make ICE’s life hell so they loathe their jobs and go home.
I’ve got a better idea, go to one of the net worth websites, take your pick and make some real change happen.
what
Eating the rich is an effective way is my point
Well yes that’s the main part of the plan, of course
Buy a weapon before they close that pipeline.
Sometimes it’s better to die on your feet rather than your knees.
If we really honestly can’t figure out a better plan than to get our little glocks and go plink at em, then okay. But we’d have to be a whole lot dumber than I think we are.
No, you’re right. We’re being brigaded. A lot of accounts popping up out of nowhere with faulty – to be generous – knowledge of the US.
The Vietnamese did it and they were trapped in a cave with a bunch of scrap metal.
The Vietnamese were bad ass. But they didn’t have to fight facebook.
If the money is corrupting all players and steering the agenda, why not go after it? When we strike directly at agents of force, then we are directly attacking family and friends of a multitude of others, including of folks that may be trying to reconcile things. It will rile up his base into murder frenzy. Many undecided (dummies) will get swept up in the frenzy, because they’ll defer thinking to others around them. The rabid base have few relationships with their oligarch masters.
Lobotomize their think tanks.
Cut out the tongues of their media propagandists.
Bring any and all levels of direct action against the class that is causing this.
Plinking at them with our little glocks worked for 20 years in the Middle East.
Don’t ever underestimate will.
Pretty sure they were plinking with AKs and RPGs
Small arms is small arms
I’m all ears on how your going to reason with might makes right peole to give up their power
Um, elections and proper application of the law.
Everyone here is so up their own butt about how it’s all corrupt and everything’s over man (after shitting on Harris for five months straight) but that’s the right way to do it.
If you just need to murder some brownshirts and want to take the consequences, then that’s always an option. It’s just not the best option. It’s not even a good option.
Um, how many more need to get murdered by the government before you come up with something even the slightest bit more effective than “sit on our asses and keep getting murdered”?
We’re long past the third box of liberty, which (barring whatever incredible plan you’re working on) leaves us with either the fourth box, or just accept people being murdered.
So what we’ve been doing for decades is your answer
The elections they’re talking about canceling and the rule of law that they are completely ignoring.
So while you’re waiting for that to work the rest of us need to figure out how to actually get something done.
after shitting on Harris for five months straight
For Christ sake shut the fuck up about Harris already. People are dying, democrats don’t do jack shit unless it is to help THE MURDERERS and y’all are still butting in everywhere to throw a tantrum.
Talk the talk.
deport them. MN knows how to remove ice and snow from the roads. plows could be useful
Or what?
…or he’ll ask nicely, again !
use his SPED son as a prop.
That’s it — You really upset the entire Democrat party! Now. They’ll write a strongly written letter. And threaten to maybe only fund 90% of ICE operations!
No dude, the Dems will kill YOU. Fascists get more respect.
Another toothless message. What a joke. Trump is going to invoke the Insurrection Act regardless of what you do. At least protect your damn citizens from cold-blooded federal jackboots!
he likely got the same orders that schumer and jefferies got, not to get in the way of ice. behind close doors.
Using the cold-blooded state jackboots? Where’s the force that would side with protestors strongly enough to go up against ICE?
If they push hard enough the citizens of MN will engage in asymmetric warfare like every other occupied group. The IRA, Palestinians, Vietnamese, Iraqis, etc. It’s the ultimate way to deal with militarily superior occupying forces. I can see IEDs blowing these federal thugs to the moon.
also includes doxxing, and hacking thier personal info and releasing it.
I hope our elite furry hacker friends are on the case. Never made enemies of the furries.
Americans are complacent. Part of it is living paycheck to paycheck, and part of it is that the bread and circuses have quite a few psychological tricks and chemical boosts to make them much more addictive than anything the romans could have dreamed of.
That “push hard” bit will need to be as extreme as the bombing campaign against the vietnamese was in order to get any action.
closest thing is we are basically like russia, thier population is so pacified they arnt going to fight back against he regime. thats how putin has been using force without resistance internally.
Oh what relief! That will get them out!
What do you expect him to do, walk down there and physically push all of the multiple thousands of them out by himself?
so far he hasnt done anything, and just had empty words about “not doing anything to stop ice”
Use the national guard. If that isn’t an option call for volunteers to get them out. People are chomping at the bit to deal with these motherfuckers.
Use the national guard.
He’s not using them to deal with ICE. He’s using them to suppress riots.
It can be two things. You feel riots would be helpful? There’s a lot of places with ICE right now. Giddyap. Minnesotans got enough shit to deal with.
It can be two things.
But it’s not. He has made no indication about using them to forcibly remove ICE from his state.
It’s true, he has not declared civil war.
Yeah, that’s what he’s been doing.
That isn’t why he called them in.
Talk is cheap, let’s see some ACTION
Such as
American citizens always look to others to do what they won’t. Useless
They are literally talking about Walz. A supposed representative of the people.
Exactly. It’s like these people assume I have the same power and status as THE STATE GOVERNOR 🤦♀️
He is the chief executive of an entire state with 50,000 employees across 100 state agencies, including police and national guard units. His FUCKING JOB is to protect the people of his state,
Do not rely on these enabling, feckless democrats to save you. They’ve had years to prepare for this and have done nothing. Well, not nothing…they voted to increase ICE funding every single year.
Minneapolis was able to mobilize hundreds of thousands of people without the help of Dems. Most of the Dems are paid for by AIPAC, the rest have been called out on their bluffs … Begging trump to do anything is the kind of narcissistic shit he loves to hear. They 👏 will 👏 not 👏 help 👏 you
All they have is the courts. But laws and court rulings only mean something if trump abides by them, which he doesn’t.
Imagine being proud of voting for a genocide enabler. 🙄
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Tl;dr: stop voting for genocidaires
But the moral prohibition on siding with any administration that endorses genocide will force a different flavor of the exact same logic that centrist liberalism has depended on for so long: hold your nose and align with the least worst thing. Only the least worst thing will no longer be the mild, ethics-agnostic emptiness of modern Western liberalism, nor will it be the multitude of barbaric authoritarians and their secret prisons. It will be communal solidarity, or else nothing, a walking away from all of this. Countless otherwise pragmatic people who would in any other circumstance choose liberalism by default will instead decide none of this is worth the damage to one’s soul. They will instead support no one, vote for no one, wash their hands of any ordering of the world that results in choices no better than this. And the obvious centrist refrain—But do you want the deranged right wing to win?—should, after even a moment of self-reflection, yield to a far more important question: How empty does your message have to be for a deranged right wing to even have a chance of winning? Of all the epitaphs that may one day be written on the gravestone of Western liberalism, the most damning is this: Faced off against a nihilistic, endlessly cruel manifestation of conservatism, and somehow managed to
make it close.— Omar El-Akkad, One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This, correction mine.
Oh no! You’ve blamed the feckless twats who fucked us over instead of the candidate who was not beloved by the proletariat! Now we’re gonna get downvoted! Oh the bourgeoise!
if you saw how they voted recently in the HOuse, they arnt even representing thier districts anymore.
Walz could call the national guard to protect the protesters
He called them to help the police. “With what?” is the obvious question.
Prventing ICE from speeding into a neighborhood, murdering bytanders and speeding off again with the whole of the narrative in their control. I’m guessing.
Oh, are they? Find me an instance of them stopping ICE, then.
First off, .ml, there are instances of them. But I’m not going to find them for you because you do not give a good goddamn either way.
Keep screeching though, it’s super fucking helpful.
he’s a coward. “oh but they’ve likely threatened his life and his familiy” ok then immediately step down and have someone else jump in that is willing to take the bullet for the people.
Someone, anyone, at this point needs to step up and NOT be afraid to do whatever it takes to defend and protect US citizens from nazis.
Don’t know you, but if you are American, what are you waiting for?
Shut up. When are you going out there? Problem with my fellow Americans, they always look for a handful of people to do what everyone else won’t. But I guess that’s what representative democracy conditions you to do.
If I lived in Minneapolis, I would step up just to grind your nose into the shit you just took. Stop capitulating. It’s weak.
Remember, there are a lot of foreign antagonists here. Accounts are free and you can make as many as you want. I’ll let you guess who has incentive to make many of them.
And then there are others who get convinced and just repeat those talking points.
Idk half of these agitators could be ICE themselves.
It’s why I keep reminding people that we cannot fight on their terms. They believe in warfare that is a battlefield that they can control.
Not a maze where everything and everyone is a threat.
They have the weapons. Sooting one or two would be fighting on their terms. We should fight on our own terms, with the moral high ground, instead.
Notice that is not what I said. The morale high ground is what we have been doing, and what we want to keep doing.
We do not give them a battlefield. We make their lives a living hell of paranoia.
Bruh y’all are gonna get everyone killed while you hide yourself in the basement tweeting about how this is actually the smart and brave thing to do
I think you misread what I said before:
It’s why I keep reminding people that we cannot fight on their terms. They believe in warfare that is a battlefield that they can control.
Not a maze where everything and everyone is a threat
so far that hasnt work at all, and it wont work in the future, if all your going to do is do isolated protests and short planned strikes.
We have plenty of history to see how useless militaries are against guerilla fighters.
Lol how could you write this without expecting this:
Where are you?
I’m in Va. I’ve been to some protests this year. Been protesting in DC since 2005.
We, as US citizens need to protect each other from these Nazis!
This is LITERALLY what the second amendment is for
Apparently it’s illegal to open carry in that state. No wonder ICE goes there. Come to Oklahoma were we have the right to walk the streets with an AR 15, bet fuckers won’t be killing us in the streets. Fucking cowards. If Waltz wasn’t Fucking coward he pass an EO authorizing people of Minnesota to do the same.
Gun control is a whole can of worms, there’s places where it works, there’s place where it doesn’t, there’s different kinds of cities and also rural area and just… eh this isn’t really the angle you should engage this topic from imo, even if I agree we should self-defensively arming leftists in general.
Look at you ragebaiting with shit for facts:
Brian O’Hara, the chief of the Minneapolis Police Department, said that Mr. Pretti was an American citizen with no criminal record, and that he had a valid firearms permit. Under Minnesota law, citizens can legally carry a handgun in public, without concealment, if they have a permit.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/24/us/minneapolis-shooting-alex-pretti-timeline.html
Look at all your Walz hate, when he’s actually standing firm and doing what I’d expect a good governor to do. I’m guessing you don’t know about the voter lists, being uninterested in the fights people actually are winning.
There’s zero reason for ICE to come to Oklahoma, since you’re already on your knees to Trump. He’s only sending his goons to those who are actually resisting him.
Fuck open carrying a pistol, talking about rifle, AR15. The guns the Black Panthers are carrying in Philadelphia. That is illegal in that state but if they were able to do so then ICE would get the fuck out of that city asap.
And fuck Tim Waltz and his empty fucking words on X (a nazi platform) need a governor who will send in the gurad or the state troopers to protect the people.
Fucking start having ICE agents disarm and arrested. I don’t fucking care if the charges don’t stick. It will send clear message that ice is not welcome. Instead ICE is rounding up your off duty officers. That pathetic. Come down south and see how that would play out. When we can open carry with no permit a fucking AR 15. And have stand our ground laws. Probably why ICE isn’t in my city pulling shit like this. Oh they are here but they aren’t breaking down doors. Here in Oklahoma that get them killed real quick.
To be fair, laws are done. Especially in the twin cities.
Did you see the way they cowered when one of their own opened fire? They’d straight up leave if even a couple hundred open carried.
Have you ever seen 10 people speeding on a highway together and get pulled over? No, you haven’t, and a hundred fuckers with guns don’t answer to anyone.
To be fair, laws are done. Especially in the twin cities.
And there it is again, the obvious lie. If laws were done, ICE would not be in Minneapolis, just as ICE is nowhere near Oklahoma and how this has nothing to do with immigration or benefits fraud.
Did you see the way they cowered when one of their own opened fire?
Yeah, because they were less than two feet away from the shooter, who was an untrained fool. I’d cower too.
Have you ever seen 10 people speeding on a highway together and get pulled over? No, you haven’t,
Yes, I have. We all have. It’s called a fucking speed trap.
Not actually from here, are you.
1, laws only exist when enforced
2, that was my entire point.
3, you have not seen 10 people be pulled over for speeding at once, together, that’s horseshit
No politician will save us. Only you and your local community working together can.
Here are concrete steps we can take to combat the regime with our last non-violent pathways (the titles below expand if you click them).
Learn First Aid! ⛑️
As we’re seeing, deadly violence is being used against us and it will only continue. It extremely important to have the skills to be able to keep yourself and others alive if they get hurt. You can never have too many medics.
Tacticool Girlfriend provides a great introduction to building a personal first aid kit, called an IFAK, which can deal with things like bullet wounds and other serious bleeding wounds. I also want to emphasize her recommendation of only buying medical gear from reputable sources (not Amazon!), such as North American Rescue to avoid fakes that could cost you your life.
But you’ll need to learn how to use that equipment, too. The best resource for that is to take a local Stop The Bleed class, which are pretty widely available in most places. They may cost a small fee, but can also sometimes be free. Alternatively, if you cannot access a local class, this video by PrepMedic will give you a solid understanding of how to use Tourniquets and Gauze for wound packing.
Injuries are less harmful if they are tended to early. Learning first aid can help conserve resources when healthcare becomes unaffordable. Having several medics in case of harm by police is an extremely powerful morale booster during a protest that may become a police riot. When you become comfortable with the basics of first aid, riot medicine is the next suggested step.
Establish or join local Mutual Aid networks ✊
If you haven’t already, get to know your neighbors. Mutual aid is a willingness to support and grow your community. This can include informal networks through friends, tenant/renter organizations, solidarity groups, and industrial unions.
These are groups using direct action to solve each other’s problems. Building strong communities makes it difficult for fascism to take root. The actions of the government are going to hit every community hard, and the ones who build trust in each other and work together are most likely to survive. We’ve been building a list of resources in !inperson@slrpnk.net to help you on your way. Also check out this handy guide to find existing groups in your area.
This isn’t only for your own community protection. Your ability to organize today will change the political landscape tomorrow. When revolution occurs, the social organizations that show the greatest resilience through the regime are the ones typically calling the shots when the dust settles. When it comes to elections, get out the vote drives are useless if most of the voters are fascists. At some point, you have to do grassroots political education if you don’t want fascist candidates winning elections. Mutual aid networks are excellent forums not only for teaching each other good political ideas, but demonstrating them in practice.
Join a Union and Prepare for an even longer General Strike! 💪
The most effective non-violent action we can take is preparing and organizing for a General Strike.
The country would be brought to its knees if suddenly deprived of profit and labor. That tactic was extremely effective in Chile in 2019, and had they not fallen for the trick of liberal reform, they would’ve had a successful revolution on their hands with virtually no bloodshed.
If you aren’t in a union (or even if you are, it’s worth dual-carding), consider joining the IWW to unionize your workplace (bonus: you’ll get higher wages, better benefits, and more time off if you succeed!) to strengthen a general strike if we manage to enact one, as most unions have a strike fund that can supplement your income during a general strike to make it more financially bearable (you should also save as much money as you can reasonably do, so it can also be used to keep yourself afloat during a strike).
And for our international friends, you should join one as well, as fascism is gaining momentum globally. If your country isn’t listed below, just contact the IWW directly in the link above, and they’ll help you set up a new local branch.
Adopt Security Culture and Digital Camouflage 🛡️
Sometimes benign seeming efforts can turn into unexpected personal data collecting traps. Like an obscure website for exchanging contact info with other students turning into a global ad-tech surveillance network (Facebook), or innocent seeming online personality tests being use to harvest character profiles. Even Etsy, Reddit, Tinder, and Duolingo are feeding information to US Government Agencies like ICE.
Security culture is commonly used to describe the general awareness of such potential traps and how it can affect groups or entire communities. This goes beyond mere individual privacy efforts, as without joint efforts these often fail to work.
Especially in activist circles, security culture is paramount. For opsec reasons not everyone in the group might be aware of what clandestine efforts others are involved in, but with a general security culture many potential data leaks can be avoided.
Movements are made by the volume of their participants, and the easier and less dangerous it is to participate, the more people will get involved. As more people get involved, individual involvement becomes even less dangerous, creating a virtuous cycle.
We’ll start it off with some General Advice:
- Mentally wall off personal uniquely identifying info from your online presence, actively build a habit of opsec so that withholding information is your default mental state
- Be careful about who you meet online
- Use different, unrelated usernames, passwords & emails for every account. And try not to connect to those accounts with your real IP address (use Tor or a VPN)
- Be mindful that anything done online leaves a trail
- agents provocateurs may seek to find patsies willing to perform an ill-advised illegal activity in order to legitimize police repression. If someone is trying to pressure you, especially if you don’t have a long and proven history with them, be extremely wary.
For a full guide on what encrypted communications platforms to use, and how to stay off the radar, read the Digital Camouflage section within the Monthly Meta post here (you’ll need to scroll down. I’d add it here, but it won’t fit in this comment).
I’d also highly recommend anyone reading this to read Full Spectrum Resistance if you can for further info.
oh now the media are paying attention. playing on donald’s golf cart, i hope
Weak Americans
JAJAJAJAJAJA
Did he say pretty please? That would be effective.
Tell him. Ask harder!
Everyone is in Punisher mode, on their OLED screens, from the safety of their homes, far away from Minnesota, without any responsibility for possible escalation of violence.
No, you’re right. A lot of ragebaiting here without actual knowledge of the US. After some of what I have seen in the last 24 hours I am absolutely certain we are getting brigaded.
Posting thru a shitty LCD from an undisclosed Walmart parking lot, shitty 9mm under the seat, no tags on my shitty car. What you’re doing here is called “projection”. The violence has always been inherent in the system and will come to you eventually. The very least you can do until then is not mock and undermine the people actually experiencing it.
Best i can do is send you my support from across the ocean and wish you all to stay safe.
and you telling people to act, when your not even in the country, go deal with your own right wingers.instead of being a foreign actor trying to instigate violence, or rioting.
Please learn to read. Here everyone is calling governor weak. If he calls for retaliation there will be blood on his hands. He’s trying to keep genie in the bottle.
As for being foreign actor, your stupid country affects my life too, so i have a say in this.
