I don’t oppose putting down those who sold their souls to be murderous dogs, who took a paycheck from the empire to let go of whatever little humanity they had and oppress the innocent. Ofc not, if I could snap my fingers and do it I would, this is as black and white as it can be.
Having said that: imagine some ICE agents get taken out here and there, how would that evolve? Wouldn’t it just give the government and its MAGA supporters enough ammo to spin it and send even more militarized goons? Didn’t the government just approve like a billion dollars, no joke, for ICE? And how would Americans organise? Come on, now, that’s a bit of a fantasy, the racist, hateful villains, who are too propagandised for independent thoughts, are united by default. Honestly, I think anyone who cares about themselves and their families should, just like many have across the globe when facing imperialist aggression, get a passport and seek a way out. Shit’s uncomfortable but that’s life, what do you think most immigrants, running away from Western imperialism usually, have been doing? 🤷
I am not advocating for random and concerted violence against federal agents. That being said, ICE ain’t doing shit where people are open carrying.
Targeted assassination against top figures in a minecraft server have shown great effect historically.
Why are you not?
Unorganized and random violence will just justify the insurrection act and martial law.
Great, so organize and use your head like a grown adult.
I am not advocating for random and concerted violence against federal agents.
Did you miss that bit of my comment? What’s the issue here?
I’m glad to know they’re mostly cowards. Let’s hope they don’t get even more militarized and recruitment doesn’t go up or else they won’t be so scared. And, if only a new, reformed, never again murderous (because what goes around comes around) and righteous society would come about from randomly taking out these dogs, I would 100% support it, but it simply won’t, these problems are systematic.
Wouldn’t that give the government and its MAGA supporters enough ammo to spin it and send even more militarized goons?
What’s going to happen if they do? Random civilians get killed? The same thing that happens now?
I get the worry. There isn’t enough ICE to do the job. Even with their ridiculous and lying recruitment offers, they don’t have many people.
The actual military is a wild card. My guess is they will show up and do exactly one job. Protect federal property and the people inside. I don’t think the military leaders would allow military personnel to follow and protect ICE as they break the law.
But whether now or later, what they’ll do likely won’t change. They’re going to do what they’re going to do. And civil war breaks out.
There’s another wild card to be concerned about. Israel, Venezuela, Russia sending troops to do Trump’s bidding. We’ve also heard very little from the mercenaries employee by Blackrock/Xi/whatever the fuck they call themselves now.
But again, that happens whether the citizens act now or later. The less shit we allow, the less power we give them. Pushing back with every aggressive act keeps citizens more in control.
Mmm. Thanks for the comprehensive reply.
Idk man, I’m not gonna lie and say I can see a way out or to be hopeful about a non-imperialistic, non-authoritarian future for America, this feels like a very lose-lose scenario.
If it were me, I’d get a passport and look at Canada, New Zealand, Australia (or even European and non-Western countries, but I do speak a couple extra languages so that’s my privilege) and just leave. I don’t have to see the ball roll downstairs, you know? And people have free will and aren’t just physical objects but I still don’t see a way out. What I see is the capital class reorganizing the furniture, restructuring American society to turn it from a consumer base to a slave base, and an international corporate paradise. So again, I think the best anyone in America could do is learn how to hop fences, learn a trade or get some quick qualifications (English teacher maybe?) and get a passport. Maybe max out some credit cards and never come back again? I know the majority aren’t that lucky to even conceive it, let alone do it, but that’s what I’d tell my fellow lemmings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
We don’t even have to look back that far. Can it happen here? Why or why not?
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警方不会前来。
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The police will not be coming.
I’ll assume that’s in solidarity.
There’s another wild card to be concerned about. Israel, Venezuela, Russia sending troops to do Trump’s bidding. We’ve also heard very little from the mercenaries employee by Blackrock/Xi/whatever the fuck they call themselves now.
What’s your source for this? This is insane and will never happen, so this is obvious bullshit fear mongering. Please, share a source.
Also, unnecessary, there are more than enough people in America ready to subjugate other Americans for a paycheck and an ego boost. 🤷
I have no source. I have not heard it from any news source or political commentator but I’ve read it three times now and I think it’s worthy of concern. I’m not trying to scare anyone. We citizens still outnumber any would-be invaders in numbers and weapons.
This is still only January of this year. In less than one month, how many things have you experienced that people said wouldn’t happen? Never thought could happen. I am considering any and all possibilities when it comes to untethered sociopaths with infinite money and the strongest possible responses to even a hint at accountability. I don’t consider Russian troops is a huge, huge stretch, but those who have the most to gain offering up some troops? Yeah, they would. They’re not playing the same game we are. Their end goals are not remotely the same.
Getting more people here on way better open source social media, operating systems, and more people doing is all good too. Better connected and more effective
Wouldn’t it just give the government and its MAGA supporters enough ammo to spin it and send even more militarized goons?
You mean like right now, before armed revolt? I don’t get the “what if” scenario when we’re already past that point.
Oh so you’re a coward. Got it.
I’m not even American but more than cowardly, I’m cautious. People are getting murdered, any move must be made wisely…
France. She came from France.
Why does Liberty have W’s face?
He raped last generation’s Liberty?
Welp I’m not unseeing that.
I’ve heard that special forces practice aiming for the pelvis as many of the U.S.A.’s adversaries use body armor.
The goal is to dump rounds into the pelvic bone until it breaks. Which will incapacitate their opponents and cause them to bleed out very carefully.
Did you know you are legally allowed to buy “green tip” 223 ammo. It’s the same ammo the military uses and can penetrate up to Level IV body armor.
Green tip (M855) are usually cheaper too! At least in my area. I believe it’s because indoor gun ranges don’t allow them.
You want to aim for the pelvic girdle for a lot of reasons;
- you can tell the direction of a target so you know where to lead
- it’s the main pivot of the body so it moves the most predictably when in motion.
- it’s full of arteries and will incapacitate the target which is more disruptive to a group than a kill shot as they are incentivized to render aid
- it’s the least impacted by adipose tissue ensuring full terminal ballistic effect.
But if you look at a lot of the plate carriers meal team six are wearing, they’re thin, so it’s level 3 body armor max. Any 223/5.56 round will punch right through.
I want to aim for the dick because I only have .22, and because I want to shoot these fascists in the dick.
Aim for base. Getting hole in the tip of penis is not so painful and devastating as getting all your junk partially ripped of.
Mandatory Note: Being prepared for shit to go down is different than advocating any sort of lone wolf action. Organize first and foremost. We may yet salvage something out of this debacle without an outright civil war or like burst of violence, though certainly not without brave folk on the streets physically resisting the fascists and making it impossible for them to quietly oppress the American people and make it the new ‘normal’.
In either case, comrades are invaluable. Yes, even ones you might disagree with on matters other than “Holy fucking shit, the administration really dialed up the fascism”
The bullet is an option, and an option we must acknowledge and prepare for, but still an option of last resort.
And be smart. The administration is using ICE as bait to declare in insurrection.
Ideally the goal of showing up armed to a protest is to prevent violence, not to cause it.
so far it hasnt worked at all. he was going to enact it one way or another.
And also important for all of us to remember the “administration” is generally https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics with a fuckton of money and goals embedded there among other interests. The destabilization is the point, so unification is better, but everything you said is correct
You can’t resist the administration they might use it as an excuse to take your rights and murder people. Best to let them continue taking your rights and murdering people unopposed
You can’t resist the administration alone, but can do it as part of armed civilian group counting millions of individuals.
Which takes organization and leadership, which—however justified, would be an insurrection and would give them clear target to kill.
We’d need to be so overwhelming that they’d be afraid.
I still think economic pain is probably the best solution. We need to strike in all ways, school, security guards, grocery stores, rent and mortgage payments, and ideally all services. Stop tax payments and healthcare payments. Neither of them deserve our money.
We should kill off the capitalism that is trying to kill us all.
It is the 4th box for a reason.
Damn, now I finally know what to say to people who tell me to stop complaining.
“The soapbox is the first box of liberty”
I always understood the sentiment, but didn’t have the words to communicate it.
SBJC.
That should be on t-shirts.
Finally a sane take. Thank you
Everyone should be doing the following:
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Arming the FUCK up. I don’t care how you feel about firearms in the US, it finally is that time that we need to worry about resisting tyranny. Meet force with force. You probably will never actually need to use the thing, but if the administration, or the next one, knows that actually enforcing policy will become a door-to-door meat-grinder across the entire US, they won’t risk the bloodbath. We need to preserve the standoff at all costs.
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Saving money. Economics are still a thing. If they can’t strangle you, they will starve you. Cut vices like drinking and drugs, stop spending money on new toys and games, start putting cash away.
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Getting involved in your community. As one protestor said, nobody is coming. The republicans sure won’t save us. The democrats won’t save us, nobody is going to swoop in and enact justice. Only your neighbors will save you. Or your family. Or your friends. Whatever shape it takes, we need numbers united. We need communities to stand up together and help each other. Time to exercise social muscles you didn’t know you had and actually talk to people.
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Get healthy. It’s finally time to start doing those things you’ve imagined doing like exercising and eating better even if it means spending more time meal-prepping your beans and rice and taking daily jogs in the freezing cold or doing pull-ups in your doorway or just stretching for an hour a day so you won’t cramp up and fall in the street when you have to run to a neighbor’s house.
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Audit your social media presence. I know we can’t give up internet identities entirely if we’re organizing resistance, but you need to be aware that they are in fact really making databases. I don’t think this current administration remotely has the balls or intellect to use that data for anything other than pointing and whining, but we have no idea how long this is going to last, and you might want to worry about how President Thiel is going to use facial recognition and his drone-swarm to enforce his new order. (This is FAR from over after Trump is gone.) Take your pictures down, make sure you can’t be physically located with your clues and status, take off location tracking, do what you can to separate your real life habits and life information from your social media.
Arming the FUCK up
Where does one begin with this?
If you are interested and have some specific questions, feel free to DM me.
Remember how we all used to scream and cry how gunshows and gun conventions seem to have very loose restrictions and a lack of background checks?
Welp, here we are.
Also, a great place to start depending on your state and access might be a site like Gunbroker, the setup is pretty simple and it’s basically ebay but they don’t mail guns, instead you have to go to a gun store in your area to pick up your purchase. I’ve used it before to sell firearms and had only great experiences.
Otherwise I’d start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state
Just to know what’s actually allowed or not in your state.
If you do not have firearm experience, and your state has Concealed Carry Weapon provisions for civilians, I would actually recommend going for a permit, because it comes with classes and training in many cases, and they brush you up on the law in your area. I don’t know if the attitude has changed since I had one, but generally local law-enforcement is very cool about CCW’s because they show the owner has gone through training.
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I AM supprised Trump hasnt send Freedom of Liberty back to France yet.
The right broadly is entirely about image and aesthetics, not principles.
We keep projecting the idea onto them that all this evil and destruction we’re seeing is somehow based on a principle or an idea or some big plot. Nope, they don’t care about meaning behind anything, they don’t care about history or tradition or values, they just want to make the people who make them uncomfortable go away.
More likely to melt her down and try to profit from the scrap metal. There are a lot of chuds who would like a piece of Lady Liberty. 🙁
lol
The Americans are talking about taking action again. They’re so cute. Nothing to worry about, though.
Not like us, who telepathically coordinate without talking first.
shes also french, so its different.
