• T156@lemmy.world
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    Because people either don’t care about positive side effects, or it becomes an off-label/alternate use for the medication.

    “May make you feel better” isn’t the kind of side-effect that someone would typically pay very much attention to, for example, unless it was meant for them to be aware of the possibility whilst their body adjusted to the new medication, and it would go back to normal after.

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    They do, but they’re legally required to tell you all of the bad effects and it’s rare for the positive effects to have any importance outside the intended effects for the medication to treat a serious disease warranting the risks.

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      On occasion those “positive side effects” become the primary effect the drug is prescribed for.

      Most famously, Viagra was not created to be a male sexual aid.

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    So the ones with real “feel good” side effects are the ones that people have addiction problems with, and instead of indirectly giving pleasure, they give it directly. Some people enjoy while they use them and move on with life, others become obsessed with that pleasure and throw everything else away in the pusuit of it.

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    So like, my best MD I ever had, he said “you’re got symptoms A, B, and C, right? Well doctors like to treat it with G, but pill H has main effect B and side effects A and C. Only problem is doctors hate prescribing it. Let’s try it!”

    I miss that guy.

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    19 hours ago

    Wasn’t Ozempic, gpl-1 antagonist, supposed to help type 2 diabetes manage their sugar fluctuations yet had the positive side effect of lowering their appetite and now is basically being pivoted as a revolutionary weightloss drug

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    Once I was prescribed low-dose antipsychotics to help me fall asleep. They made me energetic, productive, I actually started enjoying life. Then my dr said it wasn’t supposed to happen so cut them off.

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      I mean, what if the better quality sleep was causing those effects? That does seem unfortunate you had to stop using something making you feel better. I wonder if there was a different, more dangerous side effect they were worried about.

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        “euphoria” was among possible side effects. I guess the worry was it was getting me high.

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          Oh fuck that. I would get a second opinion. At least now you know to underplay it. “I think it’s working, yes. Sleeping better and feeling a little better, no side effects that are bothersome, this one seems good, thanks.”

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        Sometimes antidepressants can unmask bipolar disorder and cause manic episodes but I’ve never heard of anything similar with antipsychotics. In fact they’re often used as sedatives as OP alluded to.

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      Doctors are the last people who care about you. They have procedures they memorized and their job is to fill out forms and push you along the system.

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      You don’t have to blindly accept what the doctor is saying, challenge them. It is after all your body and your life

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        LOL have you ever challenged a doctor? Expect more empathy from ICE.

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          Most doctors I’ve spoken to have been quite happy to work with me rather than against me.

          The unfortunate trick is you need to self educate to speak a bit more in their language. You also need to accept they are often working within rules that are unintuitive.

          E.g. I prefer a particular brand drug Vs the generics. (The delivery method was slightly different) I had to cycle through the generics so they could tick them off in the system. Otherwise it would try to automatically shift me to a generic.

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              I’m guessing you just mouth off at doctors, and so get treated like an idiot.

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                Guess again! I hope you never have to deal with what I deal with, but in a way I do. Suffering is a great teacher.

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                  If you smell dog shit, check the ground. If you constantly smell dog shit, check your shoe.

                  Most doctors are trying to help as many people as possible, as quickly as possible. 80-90% are fine to work with you, within their workflow. If every doctor you encounter is in the 10% then either you’re VERY unlucky, or you are the problem element.

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                You’re a psychopath. An excellent candidate for medical school. Did you apply?

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        The underlying reason is that someone who has a dramatic shift to either extreme often comes with negative behaviors. Bipolar mania for example could result in blowing through money or seeking pleasure outside a relationship and a bunch of other stuff with negative outcomes.

        I would hope their decision making was more nuanced than basic correlation.

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          I am not satisfied with that answer. You got bipolar mania from an increase in happiness, which doesn’t sit right with me. And he was prescribed antipsychotics, which are treatment for mania. It seems to me to be a case of an unexperienced doctor ceasing treatment because he was afraid of an unexpected result.

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      I mean, usually the side effects have qualifiers like „Common: mild headaches“ „Very Rare: become a vessel for satan to roam the earth and sow chaos“. Wouldn’t it indeed be nice to have this for the positive effects too?

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        Normally if there are postive effects from a drug, they get studied further and re-marketed as such. If I remember correctly, Viagra was originally a medicine for heart conditions.

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    Oh, there are quite some. Just from the top of my heaf: Viagra originally was just a heart medication. Metformin, a diabetes 2 medication, is strongly suspected of having other positive side effects, like generally prolonging life. There recently was an article about a new Alzheimer medication which would be quick to the market as such because it is already a certified medication against something else.

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        Speed is fucking awesome, it makes me feel like a productive citizen.

        Why are all these dishes in the sink ? That’s crazy! Let me clean this counter up ,it’ll only take 11 minutes then Im going to pay all my bills on time. Wow that was easy , now I won’t worry about all that crap and I’ll probably sleep like a baby tonight. I’m going to read a book for a little while then go to sleep

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        There is the question if this is caused directly by the medication, or if this is something caused by you eating better because ADHD is treated.

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      I think part of it is also that occasional positive side effects are not something drug companies can advertise. They’re legally obligated to talk about the negative ones.

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          They want to keep those under wraps so that they can repackage the drug, label it specifically for those effects, and mark it up another 5000%.

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      Finasteride was designed to treat prostate cancer but it helps with male pattern baldness.

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      Cannabis is fantastic for some specific gut problems. Also some types of pain. Also nausea.

      My pain doc was delighted when she found out I had all three. She said “go get stoned, never come back”

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    Sometimes they do. Viagra was originally a heart medication that they figured out did something else.

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      Botox was for eye muscle disorders, now it’s used cosmetically, for migraines, and a bunch of other diseases.

      Apparently 20% of drugs are prescribed off-label. It’s kind of an extension of “what do you call alternative medicine that works?”

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        Wait, migraines? Are you able to give me (what would technically legally be non-medical) information on that? Migraines run in my family and every family that comes into contact with my little brother. Aside from the botulism poisoning method, how does that work?

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        I mean a fair amount of my friends had endometriosis (not sure if that’s a geographic oddity or something worse) and now I’m curious if that could have (whole lot of hysterectomies in the gang) helped.

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        Administered vaginally… “ooh I’m a bit crampy today! Time to pop a pussy pill”

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      Viagra will kill the shit out of you if you have a heart attack and the emergency room gives you nitroglycerin.

      Well. Maybe you don’t die, but it won’t have the intended effect.

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    Viagra was not originally made for what it’s mostly known for these days. Its effects on the male reproductive organ were a positive side effect.

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      Was here to say this. When ever they find out some unexpected benefit of a drug, they often invent a disorder and then offer up the treatment.

      Things like erectile dysfunction are not really a disorder. It’s normal for men to find it more difficult to get and maintain an erection as they exit their 20s. And it will keep reducing.

      Imagine if 50 year old men still walked around like 15 year old boys. My gawd. The world couldn’t survive.

      Other drugs with invented dysfunctions.

      Mail pattern baldness. Again natural and normal for men.

      Eye lash thickness. Yes there is a prescription drug to treat your thin eye lashes.

      There is a prescription sex drug for women. And here is the best part. It just makes women relaxed and sleepy. Yeah … so think about that.

      Our society is fucked.
      Natural changes as part of development being labeled as things that need treated.

      Treat those wrinkles.

      Treat that hair loss.

      Treat those thin eye lashes

      Treat that flat ass syndrome

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    there’s a mental health medicine that’s supposed to increase your pitch detection