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dogbert@lemmy.zip to Progressive Politics@lemmy.world · 2 days ago

America is rotting, with or without Trump

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dogbert@lemmy.zip to Progressive Politics@lemmy.world · 2 days ago
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    19 hours ago

    More than 50 people died in ICE custody under Obama.

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      And double the deportations of Trump 1, still way less than Genocide Joe.
      That whole country is rotten from top to bottom

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      Point being? The post is about the agency being rotten yes.

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      Obama was in office for 8 years. So that is 6-7people a year. There are stuff like heart attacks and so forth, which are not exactly the fault of ICE.

      Last year 30 people died in ICE custody and until January 9th 4 people died. So 2026 is already at the level of Obamas average for an entire year.

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        Obama still wins. He deported the most immigrants of any president in history. Libs only care when Republicans do it.

        https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/06/19/obama-trump-deportation-numbers/84257245007/

        Pretty disgusting the way you’re writing off those deaths, as if it’s normal for 7 people to die every year in these facilities.

        By that logic we can also write off the murder victims of ICE as just 2 people. Americans get shot every single day right?

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          The contexts of the deportations matter.

          I think deporting to foreign prisons in nations that have nothing to do with country of origin is new, and more cruel. Ignoring need for asylum too. Returning an undocumented immigrant that came from Mexico that ‘just’ came to get better pay to go back and walk free in Mexico is a whole lot of difference.

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          Yes, Ice has a job to do, combat illegal immigration. Were there roving bands of ice agents attacking cities en mass during Obama? Democrats are not political fan boys like Republicans are. They are elected officials expected to do the job they are hired for in a dignified manner, unlike Republicans. Republicans get elected to elevate hate and break down discourse. And apparently overthrow democracy?!

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            Boooooooooootliiiiiiiiiickerrrrrrrrrrr, no one is illegal on stolen land.

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              How does one just steal land? I’ve heard of adverse possession, and that’s legal all over the world to various degrees.

              I think the word you want is conquer, though. That’s a debt typically paid in blood.

              Cheers.

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            lmao, it was “dignified” when Obama deported 3.1 million immigrants 🤣

            Americans are getting exactly what they deserve right now, and you’ve proved it.

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          Biden did waaay worse

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          2 WHITE people, that’s what counts for them

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            Yep. What a gross country.

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      Yea we bitched about him too. Unlike you cult followers.

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        “Everyone who criticizes a Democrat must support Trump” and 10 other Blue MAGA Braindead Classics.

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