• happydoors@lemmy.world
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    This is very true. Minneapolis suburb here. They are following even old ladies back to their homes 30 min away.

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    Why is there not a general strike called for that state. Allow the groups to be on the streets peacefully full time and remove the fear and hysterical actions.

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      For any strike or boycott to be truly effective it needs to be maintained until the other side comes to some kind of agreement. A single day or two isn’t going to do much, and most of the population can’t afford to miss anymore work than that AND they are not socially connected to each other enough to be able to rely on one another for support and services while they are effectively locked out of the support and services they would receive from being able to pay for things and buy things.

      For a lot of people the two general avenue of choices are resist now and potentially lose everything now, or do nothing now and potentially lose everything later.

      I’m not necessarily justifying their actions, but it’s understandable.

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    I fucking loathe conservatives. They are proud Nazis but scoff at the use of the term. But it’s the only term that really describes them. Fucking Nazis.

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      But it’s the only term that really describes them.

      Fascists.

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        Kinda the hallmark right? You can also apply socialists to all the people collecting social security every month and everyone that uses Medicare or started a a GoFundMe for a huge medical bill or whatever. But call them out on that and they’ll blow a gasket. Most of them are hipocrites all the way down

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    Delivering food to neighbours but need to write the address down?

    Sounds a bit far-fetched, no?

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      If we’re talking about next-door neighbors yes, sure.

      I reckon it means people living in the same neighborhood as you, which in big cities can be quite large.

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      I don’t understand what you’re trying to imply. What conspiracy do you think is happening here?

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    I actually looked up edible paper online some years back and it is a thing. Might be messy though.

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    Weak little fucking cowards hiding behind the state to feel empowered for their gold stars. Little rat class traitors like that deserve open hostility every second of their lives.

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    So important to document all these tactics and counter-tactics. It will also come to parts of Europe soon. Sweden has under the current government implemented prisons for children and forced government employees to report suspected undocumented children and families. And the far-right has not even officially been included in the government yet. We probably have to prepare here too.

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      Do you or anybody know if there is a good place to find tactics currently being battle tested and updated from Minnesota and other places? I feel like the HK protests also had lots of interesting findings. It might be useful for SUTR and other UK anti-facist groups

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        Fascism is running rampant through most Western styled democracies all over the globe. It’s a byproduct of late stage capitalism, instead of addressing the root problem that is causing wealth inequality, fascist and their wealthy backers are blaming everything on scapegoats.

        The US is just the bellwether, but we’ve seen a very prominent rise in far right parties surging in even socdem countries.

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        It’s a different disease though. There is no political option that isn’t for migration crackdowns, imprisoning children and removing safeguards against repression and surveillance. But as opposed to the Trump regime, neither side of Swedish politics are trying to abolish the other or is actively trying to break down the constitutional order.

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      It will also come to parts of Europe soon.

      In 10 years we’ll officially know the CIA has been funding far-right groups in the EU.

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      I’d say we’re far from close in Sweden. The uptick in SD voters is very concerning, and the rest of the right is pretty trash as well. But it’s at least pretty likely the left gets the win this year, so let’s hope they do and start cleaning up the mess the right has created…

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        Has been for a while now. Kinda sad considering it used to be considered a bastion of modern society.

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      In France we have people on far-right billionaire-funded yet widely popular TV channel openly advocating for the adoption of ICE tactics.

      We’ve also already got special administrative prisons with inhumane conditions for undocumented migrants for a while. Likewise, on paper, the far-right has never participated in any government since 1945.

      Let’s not forget that the EU has delegated arbitrary arrest and violent policing of migrants to other states for quite a while now.

      Dark times ahead, we need to fight now, but, indeed, also prepare for a worsening of the situation.

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        Yes, and don’t forget a bunch of EU countries just signed up with Palantir too. So it’s definitely coming to Europe. I think they’re trying to separate us Americans that disagree with this from the rest of the world so we have no one.

        This is a global class war. Of course they’re going to pick out the big target. If they succeed in isolating us the rest of the western world is easy pickings.

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          Oh yea, Palantir. Reminds me that Thiel will be doing a conference in Paris soon 🤮.

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    Residential neighborhoods need to add gated entries. Lock out anyone without a reason to be there, and make ICE announce themselves to gain entry.

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      Bad idea. ICE is going to break in anyways (or some nazi collaborator will just let them in) but well-intentioned people won’t be able to render help, or at least document what’s happening inside. Locks are there to keep honest people honest, fascists are definitionally not that.

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        I’m not talking locks, I’m talking manned road blocks. They can blast through if they want, but that’s just going to be a bigger warning.

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    This comment of the lady taking the picture really reminds me of the early Nazi era regime where people were hunting for undocumented Jews. This makes me incredibly sad to see history is repeating itself yet again.

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      I’ve actually started keeping screenshots of people I know who are supportive of ICE, in part so I have my own little database of people who I know can’t be trusted, and so that I can hopefully publish them later when these same people try to pretend they didn’t support this.

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      I can’t even begin to imagine the violence I would be inspired to visit on someone who pulled that on me or someone I know. Like if smug bitch thinks she just “Got me”, and I now have nothing to lose, and she’s not the armed Gestapo, and that’s a brick lying on the ground

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      There are still WWII veterans alive that fought the Nazis in Germany just to watch it repeat itself in their own fucking country.

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        Think any of those vets are the same people trying to get these folks deported?

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          Probably.

          Social media has warped the old and the young alike, as it was designed to do. The people who use these corporate, algorithmically-driven feeds probably aren’t even aware that they themselves are supporting Nazism under a different name.

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          To have been active at any point in the war, someone would have to be 99. (2026-1945+ 18yrs to be draft age at the end of the war)

          Even if there are maga ww2 vets, I doubt many of them are active enough for this.

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            Well damn, guess that’s why the Nazis are back in full-force: the generation that defeated them last time is nearly gone. Now 1/3 this country is welcoming Nazis with open arms.

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              Sure but even if we drop the age all the way to 13, theyre still 93 years old, and that would be people who only saw combat at the very end.

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                Yeah I mean not a statistically significant difference, I just think the assumption set should be as broad as possible as a matter of conservative estimation. We’re trying to show that the living memory footprint is low, which I thought better served by getting the absolute maximum number that could be alive, and it’s still very small.

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          They’re all 90+. Do you think someone that old is doing anything besides watching soap operas?

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            I’m inclined to agree. I lost my grandfathers years ago, but I’ve gone through this thought exercise a lot since this all kicked off:

            Assuming they don’t already know: would I shelter a 90+ year old veteran from home-grown horrors that they’ll never live to see resolved, or let them shuffle off this mortal coil blissfully ignorant?

            Honestly, this is a situation where the truth simply won’t do any good. I’d probably just not tell them and keep those soaps and old movies on repeat.

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    There are credible reports from ICE observers in cars being lead to their own houses. To be more clear, ICE is cars being observed as is one’s constitutionally protected right, are driving to the homes of the cars observing them. This is intended to let the observers know that ICE knows who they are.

    It does seem like a bad idea to let the general public determine a location for ICE to drive to in a way that will highlight which car is full of ICE agents, but that is just me.

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      Now I’m fairly sleep deprived at the moment so it could just be me, but I can’t parse your first paragraph at all, especially the second sentence.

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        A couple key typos i think

        I think hes saying ice notices a civilain tailing them, pulls their info, then drives to the tail’s adress, with the civilian observer still following, letting them know that the agents know who they are and can get to them any time, as a threat.

        Paragraph 2 is pointing out this is a bad strategy for ice, as it allows opposition to lead ice into an ambush/ further identify cars:

        Drive around and start tailing suspect cars- when they start going towards your home, mark them as confirmed undercover ICE vehicles,

        OR have people waiting at the vehicles’ registered address to ambush them- could be pretty effective once people start shifting to violent resistance mode- either steal a car from someone out of town and use their car and property to set the trap, or your own old home if youre already marked and had to go underground.

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          think hes saying ice notices a civilain ta ICE is a civilian org, just like the police. They’d have much clearer more restrictions otherwise.

          National guard, for instance, is actual military, and has a LOT of rules for deployment.

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        I will break it down differently.

        ICE agents are in cars, and the cars are traveling.
        First Amendment Observers are following the cars with ICE agents.
        The ICE agents are looking up the owner of the car that is following them.
        The cars with ICE agents are driving to the homes of the observers, and pausing outside.
        ICE agents are attempting to intimidate the observers by demonstrating that they know where the observers live.

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      Well normally when you have a car full of dangerous felons following you then the best place to drive to was the police station but it’s 2026 and well, here we are…

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        I think it still might be the safest. Drive right through the front door. The local police are going to want to indict you, you did damage to city property and they have to answer to the city. The clusterfuck that is created if the guilty party is disappeared will be avoided at all costs.