::: spoiler It’s The Beaverton. :::
I wonder how many children he has raped
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Leave the firearms at home. He’s implied you should bring cannons, and motolvs.
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FUCK THAT GUY. Bring whatever you want now.
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What is the point behind your cryptic tallying of the number of people your post has misinformed?
Amusement at people’s inability to spot obvious satire, even when primed to perhaps look at it first.
Why would a “patriot” who believes the second amendment is important to protecting freedom dissuade people from carrying guns? Is it to make it easier to shoot them without consequence?
Remember that kash fuckwit fbi-man berated his people for not having a cool bullet-proof vest for him to wear after charlie asshole’s face exploded. He’s a fucking diva. Be sure to yell and jeer if you see him in-person. Mock him for not having a girlfriend. That’s sure to drive him nuts cause he clearly feels the need to talk about her constantly to make sure everyone knows.
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We’ll keep bringing them as long as a federal immigration agency keeps executing American citizens 1300 miles from the southern border.
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“we murdered a civilian following the law but you shouldn’t follow the law at protests or we will kill you.”
I ate the beaver , before I saw the multiple spoilers.
The satire isn’t obvious anymore, I did for a minute too
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I typed an angry comment just to find out beaverton is the same as the onion.
This administration is so crazy that when good onion/beaverton articles drop you honestly can’t tell if it’s satire. Same thing happened to me the first time I encountered the beaverton.
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Afraid the NRA will start pushing back seriously if (when?) they gun down another legally armed non-violent protester?
As a European, I’d never imagined to come to see the NRA as a potential force for good.
This situation is literally what the second amendment is for. When Americans were asserting their right to buy and own fully automatic assault rifles and the NRA would defend them, the second amendment is why. The amendment exists because the citizens of the time believed they would need guns to eventually defend themselves against a tyrannical government.
Now they have a tyrannical government. I’m not convinced guns are actually what they need, but this is precisely what the second amendment is for and it’s not really a surprise to find the NRA is still in support of it.
In my opinion, the problem is not with the second amendment itself, or the NRA’s unflinching support for it, at least in theory. The problem is, in practice, 90% of the people who are the most heavily armed Americans with the biggest arsenals under the second amendment are the ones who openly support the government tyranny: racists, bigots, and fascists who want their white-ethno-state. So not only are the genuine “second amendment” defenders against tyranny, like presumably Alex Pretti, going to find themselves outgunned by a heavily militarized police force and government, they’re also going to be outgunned by their heavily militarized angry white neighbors.
They built a society based on a foundational tolerance of gun ownership, and then they were tolerant of all the wrong people, the most intolerant people, getting lots of guns, while the tolerant people said “we don’t need guns, because we live in a tolerant and just society and the second amendment is outdated”. Meanwhile, their intolerant neighbors were steadily building an arsenal for the civil war that they were planning on starting. And now it’s starting. The second amendment isn’t going to be the panacea that the founders thought it would. It’s been working against them and contributing to the problem. And that’s why reasonable people have been against the NRA and the second amendment for years (and probably still should be, although it’s probably way too late to change anything significant now), because we could see where this was headed. Everyone you don’t want to have guns, were getting lots of guns. And everyone you do want to have guns, doesn’t have nearly enough guns to matter. Yeah, it was everyone’s “right” to own a gun, but most people didn’t take advantage of that right, while the people you didn’t want to abused the hell out of it. It’s not solving any problem, it’s making it worse.
Generally agree. Didn’t mean to imply that the NRA was or is « good » at this point.
Just hoping that they might lash out against the Trump admin at one point, which does not seem completely impossible now that they’ve called out their narrative on Pretti’s murder.
I feel that they’re exactly the sort of actor that could make a difference by convincing some of the gun-wielding conservatives to at least stay on the sidelines, and maybe help the army make the right choices if they ever get properly involved.
I realize it’s a rather optimistic take. The situation is very bleak.
I’m intrigued by the fact that you feel that civil war is inevitable yet feel Americans wouldn’t need guns.
It’s a weird moment in time.
Now would be the right time for all protesters to start carrying. Like the Mulford Act, nothing gets 2a supporters more concerned, than when people they don’t like, start doing the things they believe they themselves have every right to do.
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Given the amount of people who are interpreting this as actual news, I feel that satire should be clearly labelled as such in the title. It’s embarrassing to have people going around saying “did you hear Patel said…” And then when people check it it’s literally a joke.
problem is that satire is now just stupid stuff they have not did or say yet. Like satire ten years ago was far fetched relative to what politicians or celebrities or stuff was doing but now its just stuff that is about the same as what they have done recently.
Yes I agree, it’s much harder to tell the two apart these days, which is horrible. All the more reason why it’s important to delineate them on sites like Lemmy. I mean, I get that it kind of ruins the joke to put [satire] in brackets at the end of the article title. But it’s better than creating misinformation
I live how you think satire is disinformation, but not the actual disinformation coming from your government constantly. But ya, satire is the problem. /s
This right here. The problem is the satire and not,
- That the satire is even plausible.
- That people aren’t reading past the headline to the section that makes it obvious to anybody with half a brain cell to spare that this is satire.
The problem is that satire exists, not that an entire nation of 350,000,000 people or so are so badly educated they can’t spot the obvious signs of it.
Yeah. Boycott US. Even without the Nazis.
Maybe because it isn’t satire: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/minneapolis-shooting-alex-pretti/card/fbi-director-wrongly-suggests-you-can-t-bring-guns-to-protests-CDyg61zlcs1CJpVWmysK
You forget this is the government that is running The Onion out of business.
The satire bit is the bit about the schools.
But seriously, you’ve been going off on comments that don’t even care about the school part as if they’ve been fooled when all they might have done is just assume this was just a repost of news reported throughout multiple papers. If I didn’t know better, it’s almost like you were trying to dismiss what he said by portraying something very similar but with a “gotcha” that was satire, when the reality is that it is so close to reality it hardly classifies as such. Specially given how “obvious” you claim it is when this administration has not done anything if break the norms of expectation - it is missing one overlap with a school shooting from him actually saying something like this.
No, I definitely think the disinformation from my government is disinformation. I also don’t think satire is misinformation - but I do think that people mistaking satire for true news creates misinformation in the minds of those mistaken people. I mean, they quite literally believe in information that is not true. If that’s not being misinformed, what is?
I’m not even blaming the satire agency, I think satire is great. It’s not The Beaverton’s fault that this was posted somewhere where people would take it seriously. Its the fault of the OP, and the fault of the commenters for not reading the article or fact-checking things. But that doesn’t change the fact that anyone who thinks this is real news is by definition misinformed, and the presence of this post in the context of this community is by definition creating misinformation.
I don’t even know why you assumed I don’t think the government disinformation is disinformation?
Satire from 10 years ago is less extreme than what’s actually happening now.
thats true. you take what is happening today and put it in a satire thing ten years ago and people would be like. man you have to be a bit more believable.
Everything is is so fucking bonkers right now this didn’t even make me flinch. We have DHS saying the guy brandished weapon when all the video contradicts that, and that border patrol guy saying bringing a gun to a protest means your asking to be shot and he assaulted the cops, not the cops assaulted him.
Yeah, it was only a few years ago that I realized thebeaverton was a satire website. It used to be on reddit where it’s it was on
atetheonionbut for communities that are not explicitly labelled i think it’s a good idea to help people out a bit.I did. Also it’s pretty fucking obvious if you read past the headline, even in just the quoted snippet.
That sure af sounds like impinging on our 2nd Amendment Rights.
So, in short: fuck you. Everyone arm up (and stay safe ofc).
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Bring long guns to protests.
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