US presidential candidates Kamala Harris and Donald Trump would also be shown the plan, President Zelensky says.
  • Frog@lemmy.caEnglish
    861·
    23 days ago

    Mr. Zelenskyy, please show a different set of plans to Trump. He is a traitor to the US democracy, to its government, to its people, and countries in NATO.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      26·
      23 days ago

      Don’t worry, they’ll dumb it down so Trump can fit it in his tiny little mind, I’m sure, so the end leak of intelligence to Putin will be: “Ukraine says they’re going to BIGLY WIN! WOW! Very few people know that!”

      • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
        12·
        23 days ago

        “You give me big go booms. I go boom the bad guys you hate. Major winning happens. You take all credit. ‘Very smart and brave of Trump to give Ukraine all those go booms.’ Everyone says so”

        • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          23 days ago

          I go boom the bad guys you hate.

          But that precludes using the booms on Russians, whose jackboots Trump adores.

          • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
            7·
            23 days ago

            That’s why Zelensky must, under no circumstances, go into any kind of specifics with Trump. Just make it about how great and cool it will make Trump look

            • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
              6·
              23 days ago

              Trump: “Which bad guys??”

              Ukrainian ambassador, having recently learning the Dumbass dialect of American English: “The BIGGEST bad guys! The ones you hate more than anything! And you won’t even have to worry about them, because we’ll do it real quiet and secret!”

              Trump: “WOW”

  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
    526·
    23 days ago

    I hope it works but honestly I don’t see any path for Ukraine to recover all of its territory at this point. Barring some major shakeup that causes Russian resistance to collapse.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
        3·
        22 days ago

        The invasion of Russia has given them at least small gains for the first time in a while but it really doesn’t change the overall situation as of right now. The territory gained is very small compared to what they’ve lost.

        Russia would have just continue letting them gain more and more territory until they have enough for some kind of exchange, but that seems unlikely. They were caught off guard, but now that they’re defending, further advances will become difficult and it’s likely to soon reach another stalemate like the other fronts.

    • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      22 days ago

      You do realize they took over a good chunk of russia in less than a week right? With the aid package and kamala having a really good chance at winning, ukraine is sitting pretty good.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
        41·
        22 days ago

        A tiny area of strategically insignificant territory.

        Look at the size of the territory gained compared with what they’ve lost: https://images.jifo.co/21540781_1723737029035.svg

        It’s an interesting gambit but like I said in my initial comment, the Russian resistance would need to essentially collapse for them to gain enough territory to make some kind of exchange for what they’ve lost. Unless they continue to gain ground at the same rate for the next year I don’t see this changing the overall situation which has been near stalemate on the main front for over a year now.

        I don’t see Kamala’s policy being meaningfully different from Biden and it’s far from sure she wins. Trump will almost certainly cut aid and make the situation substantially worse.