India is lagging far behind China, the reason China developed so rapidly is due to their socialist market economy. By having strong central planning, and public ownership of the large firms and key industries, while allowing limited private and foreign capital for secondary and small/medium industries. As a consequence of this structure, it is neither imperialist nor driven to imperialism. These other countries you speak of cannot replicate China’s success without adopting socialism anyways, which prevents the drive to imperialism.
So, if I understand you correctly you’re asserting that the dissolution of the American power structure would disallow oligarchy for asserting centralized control and would force them to have a much smaller sphere of influence as is seen with Russian and The Saudi Arabian Oligarchs?
The “oligarchy” in the US already has control. The dissolution of the current, capitalist system would result in either socialism if we succeed or barbarism if we fail, and said barbarism would be far more localized. Russia dissolved a socialist system, not an oligarchic one of capitalism, and Saudi Arabia is a monarchy.
I was using the broad term oligarch to mean someone who has " great capital and political control who is not part of the electorate". It’s okay though, I still gather what you mean.
I still think you underestimate the blood price if things have to be done that way but it sounds like we agree on most things just not how easy it is to rip out the parasite that is capitalism.
It was too long ago for me to pull up the specific comment but I have had people on ML showing me Al Jazeera articles trying to convince me that DT is good for the Gaza strip and that he was a better vote than Kamala so for now I’ll evaluate on a case by case basis.
Why does this guy always show up to say that? Also here’s one I’ll always disagree with mostly because he only shows up to be a contrarian so they wouldn’t let me agree if I wanted to.
Agreed, Israel has too much control and is too interwoven with US foreign influence for either to stop it. Maybe if Mamdani ever made it to the big chair but we both know that will never happen as long as the DNC exists as it currently does.
Israel is not controlling the US, the US controls Israel. Israel has some counter-influence, but the US uses Israel to secure its interests in the region. Stopping it requires hitting imperialist profits directly.
India is lagging far behind China, the reason China developed so rapidly is due to their socialist market economy. By having strong central planning, and public ownership of the large firms and key industries, while allowing limited private and foreign capital for secondary and small/medium industries. As a consequence of this structure, it is neither imperialist nor driven to imperialism. These other countries you speak of cannot replicate China’s success without adopting socialism anyways, which prevents the drive to imperialism.
So, if I understand you correctly you’re asserting that the dissolution of the American power structure would disallow oligarchy for asserting centralized control and would force them to have a much smaller sphere of influence as is seen with Russian and The Saudi Arabian Oligarchs?
The “oligarchy” in the US already has control. The dissolution of the current, capitalist system would result in either socialism if we succeed or barbarism if we fail, and said barbarism would be far more localized. Russia dissolved a socialist system, not an oligarchic one of capitalism, and Saudi Arabia is a monarchy.
I was using the broad term oligarch to mean someone who has " great capital and political control who is not part of the electorate". It’s okay though, I still gather what you mean.
I still think you underestimate the blood price if things have to be done that way but it sounds like we agree on most things just not how easy it is to rip out the parasite that is capitalism.
That’s generally been my point, I think you actually agree with most people here, but have been reading them less charitably.
It was too long ago for me to pull up the specific comment but I have had people on ML showing me Al Jazeera articles trying to convince me that DT is good for the Gaza strip and that he was a better vote than Kamala so for now I’ll evaluate on a case by case basis.
No you didn’t. You’re making that up.
Why does this guy always show up to say that? Also here’s one I’ll always disagree with mostly because he only shows up to be a contrarian so they wouldn’t let me agree if I wanted to.
Lol, clearly you’ve been caught lying before
The majority opinion seems to be that neither would stop the genocide, both would carry it out.
Agreed, Israel has too much control and is too interwoven with US foreign influence for either to stop it. Maybe if Mamdani ever made it to the big chair but we both know that will never happen as long as the DNC exists as it currently does.
Israel is not controlling the US, the US controls Israel. Israel has some counter-influence, but the US uses Israel to secure its interests in the region. Stopping it requires hitting imperialist profits directly.