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    All of the (pre-election) Trump supporters I know also hate the US and want it destroyed. They’ve only changed their mind on being Trump supporters.

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      “American capital is not capable of such evil, it must be the machinations of the evil easterns”

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    Check your Book of Revelations for interesting news about a charismatic leader who survives a terrible head-wound, marks his followers foreheads. There’s also some stuff about an alliance with Israel…

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      Remember “The man who saw tomorrow”?

      They specifically foreshadowed a purple turban, but I think a red hat is close enough.

      Google summary:

      The Third Antichrist: The film highlights a prophecy about a “King of Terror” wearing a blue turban, often associated with a Middle Eastern tyrant, destined to rise to power and cause global devastation. Context: The documentary interprets Nostradamus’s quatrains, suggesting they predicted events like the rise of Napoleon and Hitler, with the final act focusing on this future warlord.

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    My evangelical aunt is extremely excited that there are signs the world might end. She’s a huge Trump supporter and a big part of her support seems to stem from his Antichrist qualities. He is going to end the world with war so he is carrying out God’s plan.

    The whole thing is idiotic. If she wants to commit suicide, she should just do it herself. No need to take everyone else along with her.

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      This point of view seems to be what a lot of evangelicals fall back on whenever you somehow manage to score any points against their orange god.

      I’ve heard several of them admit that, “Oh well, the world world is awful, and it’s fine if it ends.” Who gives them the right to make that decision for the rest of us?

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      This is a really common belief, and they have never been closer to making it happen. The Christianity Death Cult has aligned with the MAGA Death Cult which wants to reduce the population to 100 million people. Together they will happily kill millions of us for their own sick agendas.

      We have to stop them, obviously, but when it’s over, we have to deal with both of those situations. MAGA will have to crushed, purged from government and society, prohibited from existing, and their leaders punished harshly for their crimes.

      Religion is a bigger problem, but the solution starts by ending any special privileges that churches get, and treating them like the businesses they are, including taxing them heavily, and regulating their activities.

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        Taxing churches just for being churches would be counter-productive. What needs to happen is the current set of rules regulating what counts as a church and what doesn’t needs to be tightened and enforced. There are tons of shit people running churches as their own personal profit machines and those need shut down. The Methodist churches built in every town in America, for example, are only barely hanging on by a thread and bring more good to their neighborhood than they do harm; their loss would be tragic.

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          We should do all that, but make no mistake, I’m not taxing churches because they’re churches, I’m taxing them because they are businesses, and most of them are actually money laundering operations disguised as churches.

          So yeah, investigate which are real, and which are scams, but tax them ALL.

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      Joining the hordes of followers of the beast of the sea because you think that the end of the world is awesome. I suppose there’s a theoretical nobility of choosing hell so others can go to heaven, but this ain’t it chief.

      Back when I was Christian I was so confused by these doom cultists. Like, the religion teaches that the gates of heaven are open. It’s not like the saints are waiting in sheol. There’s no benefit to the end of the world happening sooner from a theological perspective, and you aren’t supposed to know when it’s coming

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        They had to do that because it’s a death cult. A Christian’s goal is to die and go to heaven as quickly as possible, so if they let them commit suicide, then that’s the fastest way to heaven.

        And then, of course, murder is a sin, or else the best thing a Christian could do is blow up a Christian church while it’s full of worshipers.

        Actually, since murder can be forgiven, you’d think Christians would be killing each other left and right, just to help the other guy get into heaven faster without them committing suicide.

        Even if murder couldn’t be forgiven, you’d think a Christian parent would want to kill their children right after they were baptized. Guaranteed ticket into heaven for the kids. Best thing for them. What loving parent wouldn’t sacrifice their soul for their children’s souls?

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            You’re not wrong. And they keep making up crazier and crazier nonsense.

            I remember when Operation Desert Storm was supposed to bring about Armageddon. And then it was W’s war in Iraq. And now it’s the war in Iran.

            Every time they move the goalposts, they also increase the stakes. It’s terrifying.

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      Didn’t they have one of those end if the world things recently? But it sure sound like that saying “it’s easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine end of capitalism” or just any change in world view.

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      Hey don’t give them all the credit, Russia probably had a bigger hand in it…

      Also Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk etc…

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      Given that in the 80s and 90s it was well known that Trump had ties to the Russian mafia, it may not be a Chinese plan, or at least not a 100% Chinese plan. It might be a coalition of China and Russia working to destroy America and American politicians being bribed into going along with it.

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        No one factor was the singular deciding one, no, but in the context of a brainwashed Chinese dad its the most topical one.

        The entirety of TikTok is a psyop and it led to the biggest shift right amongst youth ever recorded.

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          Millennials are sandwiched between boomers and new boomers. It would be nice if there was a generation between the boomers and millennials but unfortunately it goes boomers, there is a gap for some reason, then millennials.

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            I like that joke, that’s funny, because Gen X was supposed to be a placeholder for a generation we didn’t yet understand but it just sort of stuck.

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      More likely independent Chinese and Russian plans harmonizing because they want the same thing, which is destabilization and collapse in the west

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      If the Chinese are behind this, which I think is reasonably likely, they’ve played it beautifully. Their hands look pretty clean while they manipulate Putin to run all their campaigns through Russia.

      And the only real evidence we have is that nearly everything that happens benefits China.

      • Huge damage to America’s soft power
      • Damage to America’s military
      • Reduced power of the dollar
      • Weakening of NATO
      • Destruction of the US green energy production, especially EVs.
      • US operational security is the weakest it has ever been
      • Loss of moral authority to contest imperialism, such as Hong Kong and Taiwan
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        That’s a list of benefits that benefits every other country that isn’t the USA. Other than arguably the weakening of NATO, but other than that I would say that’s not really the “evidence” you think it is.

        I think it’s way more likely Trump is just a really shitty president with a highly incompetent cabinet and various other appointees. I mean he’s also in bed with Russia but that’s just on top of him being really bad at the job.

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        All China had to do to implement their evil scheme was stay out of all this crap and make money. Those bastards.

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        There is a lot of evidence of Chinese exerting their influence in the USA. They directly and openly supported Trump via TikTok, they frequently run social media psyops and botnets (with zero subtlety, too), and they frequently are the source of cyberattacks on US industries and outlets.

        There is also a lot of evidence of their involvement directly with Iran and indirectly with Gaza, Jordan, Egypt, and Israel.

        It’s not clever or beautiful, it’s a bunch of dumb assholes having a proxy war and fucking things up for everyone.

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          There is a lot of evidence of Chinese exerting their influence in the USA. They directly and openly supported Trump via TikTok, they frequently run social media psyops and botnets (with zero subtlety, too), and they frequently are the source of cyberattacks on US industries and outlets.

          And this is different from the USA peddling and forcing their stuff down everybody’s throat because?

          I should also point out that none of that “influence” would have been effective if the USA had a working government that did do everything possible to keep its own people poor, sick and uneducated

          There is also a lot of evidence of their involvement directly with Iran and indirectly with Gaza, Jordan, Egypt, and Israel.

          Oh I see… of course, these are countries where the USA has never had any influence in… Now that I think of it, the USA rarely influences any foreign country

          It’s not clever or beautiful, it’s a bunch of dumb assholes having a proxy war and fucking things up for everyone.

          You mean the USA right?

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            Yes clearly microsoft selling you a software license is equivalent to you compromising millions of routers and using them as a botnet for taking various services down.

            You’ve opened my eyes. The USA is a great Satan. /s

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              LOL like the USA has not been directly responsible for the destruction of democratically elected governments all over the world and the instigator or catalyst of every war the world have seen since WWII

              isn’t your tongue dry from all the boot licking?

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                Which boot are you insinuating I am licking? You’re the one defending a Dictator’s open hostility when we were in times of peace. You’re the one trying to legitimize the Trump admin.

                Perhaps you might be projecting? A lot?

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                  Which boot are you insinuating I am licking?

                  The USA’s so in today’s world it would be the Orange Pedophile’s boot

                  You’re the one defending a Dictator’s open hostility when we were in times of peace.

                  I have not, that is all part of your weak strawman

                  You’re the one trying to legitimize the Trump admin.

                  Ok, you are either confusing the many people you are trying to troll or you have having a stroke

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      At this point, dealing as much damage to the US in any possible way is a hope of many people after all the shit that happened recently.

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        The USA cannot be allowed to fall, not to Trump or any other despot, because even in its current state: China and Russia are worse and will leap, claws out, at any opportunity created by the fall of the USA.

        Just like Iran, the best outcome is that it must simply change.

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          Just like Iran, the best outcome is that it must simply change.

          The US and Israel MUST be allowed to bomb every school and hospital they want FOR THE GREATER GOOD

          Or perhaps the fascist imperial ambitions of the US and Israel are bad, actually

          Edit: to the people downvoting, the US and Israel have already bombed multiple hospitals and schools in Iran. They are using the exact same type of Dahiya doctrine, also known as the deliberate mass targeting and destruction of civilian architecture, as they did in Gaza.

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            If the precision airstrike bombs that hit the elementary school turned out to be Iranian it wouldn’t surprise me at all. Trump is only in power now because of Russian and Chinese election interference in the USA.

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              If the precision airstrike bombs that hit the elementary school turned out to be Iranian it wouldn’t surprise me at all.

              If you fell for that bs here, I bet you fell for that same bs when they did the same in Gaza.

              Trump is only in power now because of Russian and Chinese election interference in the USA.

              Trump won because Biden/Harris ran such a profoundly bad campaign that they lost votes to the couch. So bad that they’re either staggeringly incompetent or deliberately fumbled.

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              That didn’t happen.

              And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.

              And if it was, that’s not a big deal.

              And if it is, that’s not my fault. <- you are here

              And if it was, I didn’t mean it.

              And if I did, you deserved it.