Don’t you dare you fucking idiot, I voted for you and I don’t want us getting involved at all.

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    Every war is a bankers’ war, Carney is a banker above all else. When his masters yank his chain he will do whatever they order him to do, including joining the Epstein Memorial War on Iran.

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    Ok, if this is anything more than lip-service appeasement, get him the fuck out. We don’t need the Liberals to be socially conservative patsies.

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      He was answering a hypothetical question. If Iran attacks a NATO country we might join the operation if that country asks.

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      He seems to have inconsistent opinions on where Canada should stand on the war. My impression is he’s trying to play Swiss in this moment and is a bit out of his depth.

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          Thus far, surprisingly few. Actually alarmingly few when you think about it. Either our corpos are shockingly straight laced, or Epstein had a competing network in our zone.

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            It’s probably more a question of power and reach. Epstein saw nothing to gain by getting Canadians into his debt.

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              … Yes… That’s it… Pay no attention to the fact that we are one of the money-laundering capitals of the world. Shhh… We’re very nice…

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      Yes, but:

      In the documents, the redacted interlocutor asks Epstein: “did you meet the Irvings?”

      Epstein replies “No,” with the unnamed person then writing back that they’re not planning to work for “the crazy Irvings.”

      A spokesperson for Irving, who now heads a health-care technology company, told Brunswick News on Monday the former oil exec never had contact with Epstein.

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    The fuck is he doing right now.

    Built up all that political capital in Davos for what?

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      This is a discussion where the Austrlian press needles Carney on topics related to Iran, as they should. Carney’s threading a tight situation and discussing many things in hypotheticals, but this took the Canadian PMO and many other world leaders aback.

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      Apparently for people to fly off the handle at a headline that completely ignores what he said.

      I wonder how much more reasonable the political discourse would be if people would just read the damn articles.

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      I tend to agree with you. He said:

      “One can never categorically rule out participation,” he said.

      “We will stand by our allies, when it makes sense. There’s a distinction between the offensive actions that were taken and are being taken by the United States and Israel, that were taken by them without consultation with Canada, with other allies, and we’re not party to those actions.

      “But we will always defend Canadians, we will always stand by and defend our allies when called upon.”

      The right answer would be to make like a Conservative and not answer. He can’t piss off Trump, but he knows Canadians (outside of a few communities) aren’t into this shit. Saying maaaaaaybe walks back most of his appeal from Davos.

      Carney is not a great politician. He doesn’t know when to shut up (hence his statement of support for the war in India). So far he’s lucked into the right moment. I’m not sure what the next few years will bring.

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    Yes yes, it was hypothetical, but the Epstein Memorial War on Iran can absolutely spin out of control here. It’s not a very far-fetched hypothetical! I think we should “categorically rule out” involvement in the Epstein Memorial War on Iran.