• ikidd@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    1M is absolute chickenfeed to the level of corruption this family is dealing in.

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      In my experience withcoke heads… never by coke from them. The other drugs are alright, but still worse then someone else. But you should never do business with them unless you have to.

      All drugs should be legal and regulated.

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    Just Polymarket? This has been shitshow after shitshow of which Polymarket is just the latest. Under the current administration, there will be no regulation, Trump Jr himself is literally an investor and advisor to it.

    It basically takes what they were doing with social networks and adds a profit incentive to it.

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    wonder if they’d take this bet. not far off topic, buying insurance in america. allstate. i’ll bet you $100 if your house burns down we’ll buy you a new one

    allstate; win

    they win like 99.76% of the time. more; after digging through a few slop sites, dug up these values, roughly. no ai bs 145,000,000 houses , 344600 fires in 2023. bet $100/month x # of customers = $99.76 net revenue/month - (office buildings, advertising, wages etc.) per customer. check my sketchy math. please? having trouble believing this. they bend over backwards to not insure risky areas.

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    I saw Coinbase was allowing buying/selling stocks 24/7

    Commercialism has overtaken the internet. We’re in full corruption mode now. Without enforcing rules and regulations, this is where society ends up.

    How do we make non-religious churches for decent people? Can we start that movement and move up from there?

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      Bhuddism and Zen Bhuddism are not religions, they are philosophies, a different way of viewing the world. They don’t require a church, a congregation or for you to believe anything. One reaches an understanding of cosmic unity by exploring the boundries of self. In fact, one of the first hurdles is accepting that you know very little which in turn births humble curiosity about the nature of existence. This movement has been growing for a while, might be time to look into it. Personally I found the best way to cut through the non essential periphery and get to the core of the ideas was through listening to Alan Watts.

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    Gambling is haram for a reason. 🤷

    (And yeah, I know much of it happens in or goes through some Gulf institutions, don’t worry I hate those hypocrites also).

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      11 days ago

      Fairly certain that there are a few AI engines doing exactly that. If I was in charge of a large news organization, I’d absolutely be monitoring these markets for this type of bet.

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      It used to be illegal to run away from your plantation, too.

      No reason to outlaw this, why bother? People have always made wagers, and they enjoy it.

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        well because a lot of the wagers are easily manipulated by the same insiders who own the platform? No ones stopping you from betting with your pals. We don’t want a fake rigged market place that’s a black hole of money.

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          Insiders and wagers go hand in hand, that’s all part of the odds.

          It’s not a “fake rigged market place” OR the stock market is also a “fake rigged market place”.

          …and anti-gambling laws lead to lots of “stopping you from betting with your pals”, for example see all of human history, pick an era. Police don’t need a lot of incentive to seize all of your assets, it doesn’t matter. This is just another excuse to do so

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            Ur telling me rich people write laws to relieve you of your assets? Oh no how long has this been happening?! One might say that legalizing polymarket was one of these actions. One might argue you should’ve never been allowed onto such a platform in the first place.

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        People enjoy making wagers with friends and acquaintance. Gambling apps are highly addictive commercial products which have negative value to society. Ban them and shoot the owners and shareholders.

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          Food is highly addictive. Video games are highly addictive. Sex is highly addictive.

          You are not “the decider” of which activity is of value to society or not, it’s of value to THEM.

          Instead, ban and shoot everyone who would want to ban and shoot other people for owning entertainment venues (like gambling).

          They’re more trouble than they are worth.

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              … and you would if you could, too… and Republicans… and then the religious… and then Independents… and so on… and that’s why we don’t trust you with anything more than a scooter. NO LICENSE FOR YOU

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                Republicans yes, but I don’t know how you got “independents” (whatever that is) and the religious out of it.

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      Please ban all online betting and only make it legal at places where you have to actually go there in person to do. Impulse gambling on smartphones and prediction markets are straight cancer to society.

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    There’s always someone on the other side of these bets. How is it that people keep betting on things like this when they know that insiders like this are the ones they’re sometimes betting against?

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      The point is this bullshit market can influence decisions, like whether to have a nuclear strike on Iran -you think a Trump family member would not try to cash in on that?

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        Took down or made private?

        Either way I want every person alive to know the names and faces of anyone that put money on it.

        But unfortunately I know that won’t happen, especially when the chief in diaper himself is willing to bomb an elementary school full of kids to distract people from the fact he diddled kids from active warzones and destabilised countries

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    Ant sources on this? I already believe you, because it’s a trump, but I’d like to see the evidence so we have something more to slap into magat faces

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      Boiling frogs.

      1. Farmers want a way to sell their crops before harvest time to guarantee a certain price, so they’re protected by unpredictable swings in price. A market is set up for commodity futures, so a speculator can take that deal, and maybe make a lot of money if the price she sets with the farmer is well below the actual market value. This is seen as a good thing because the farmer gets to reduce their risk, while someone else gets the opportunity to make money by taking that risk on the farmer’s behalf.
      2. This system expands like a cancer, so professional investors are soon buying derivatives on all kinds of things. Sometimes this is arguably good for the world, but many times it’s just complex gambling, and it results in the housing-based financial collapse of 2007-08. Hedge funds and investment bankers manage to convince the regulators to let them keep the system as is, despite the crash.
      3. Wall street pushes to allow random people with no financial power, no training, no knowledge to also be able to get involved with derivatives, because having idiots on the other side of their bets is great for their bottom lines. It’s much easier to make money from some random person using an app than it is to make money off another professional investor.
      4. Some clever person manages to reskin a gambling app as if it were an investment app, and allows people to “buy derivatives contracts” on just about anything. Nobody honestly believes that this is anything other than gambling. But, the regulators are all compromised and toothless, so now you can gamble on any of the 4 horsemen: war, famine, death or disease.
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        I mean I actually like derivatives for hedging. I used to get 6 year contracts for electricity prices for my business. They saved my ass during covid/ Russia war. Prices climbed so fucking high that power contract became a financial asset. I like the fact that I can insure my stock portfolio with put contracts, I like that I can generate some income selling call contracts, and yes sometimes I even do short term speculation with options. If it’s good enough for Nancy Pelosi, it’s good enough for me! that being said it has gone way to far and there should be way more regulations and oversight because it is just a big casino and robin hood would let a child buy calls if it could access the phone.

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      Creative interpretation of reality. Polymarket pretends it is not a betting platform, since betting on wars and similar shit is banned even in the US.

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      Correct answer. It creates extremely perverse incentives in society to allow people to bet on large scale harm.