• Mulligrubs@lemmy.worldEnglish
    202·
    1 day ago

    I think Epstein is wag the dog for Israel

    Which is wag the dog for an international consortium of “banking interests” around since the 1800s who profit off of endless war

    I’m not sure who the banking interests are wag the dog for, probably some JERKS

    • Jyek@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      1 day ago

      Absolutely not. These are all massive human rights violations and none of them should be disregarded in favor of any other one. And the participants and benefactors of Epstein’s island should all be severely punished. There is no amount of wag the dog that will change the fact that children were routinely sexually abused for blackmail on the rich and powerful.

      • Mulligrubs@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        13 hours ago

        Nobody said any of them should be disregarded in favor of any other one, take some deep breaths.

        “wag the dog” doesn’t mean any of this is fake, it’s how it is USED to influence public opinion

  • x0x7@lemmy.world
    6·
    1 day ago

    Bill Clinton did this. The embargo on Iraq, according to Madeleine Albright, was to distract from the Monica scandal. 1 million children died from the loss of medical supply access.

    • inari@piefed.zipOPEnglish
      5·
      24 hours ago

      Its a common tactic used everywhere. The Argentinian junta also invaded the Falklands to distract from their low popularity at home.

      • x0x7@lemmy.world
        1·
        8 hours ago

        This proves that politicians are actually evil. Hans Herman Hoppe is just being proven right. Republican democracies just put actual evil people in charge of resources.

  • dan69@lemmy.world
    27·
    2 days ago

    So the Bush’s and all the presidents who want something to stop trending they just bomb countries??

      • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.world
        18·
        1 day ago

        because it’s a country. south korea has never not been at war. it is just a natural consequence of being a State

        • Jankatarch@lemmy.world
          8·
          1 day ago

          Yeah I remember when South Korea traveled accross the ocean and land to invade Poland. Your usual state behavior. /s

          • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.world
            21·
            1 day ago

            pick any country and look at its history. including yours. they are always fucking at war, either invading, being invaded, or asking another state do it for them. my point being, the korean war (what created south korea) has never ended, which i’d wager is causative to the dismal quality of life in both south and north korea even though it has long ago ceased being an active hot war.

  • dominic.borcea@piefed.socialEnglish
    185·
    2 days ago

    Ok, but this says that the google search for “Epstein files” died on 18 of february, 10 days before USA/Israel started the attack. So the war is not about the Epstein files, which I agree with. It is about USA’s foreign policy.
    It is in the interest of USA and Israel to severely damage the Islamic regime of Iran.
    It is in the interest of western allies to help or be quiet about the attacks and not to raise too much of a ruckus about it.

    • answersplease77@lemmy.world
      9·
      2 days ago

      Wait why is it in US intrest to severaly damage Iran? there was a deal by Iran to give up all its nuclar stockpile and convert the rest to fuel irreversibly under full inspection and verification by the UN nuclar watchdog. AND they also would invite American oil companies to invest and trade with them. That was the deal Israel bombed away in the middle of negotiation.

      • dominic.borcea@piefed.socialEnglish
        61·
        2 days ago

        Oh its not about the nuclear stuff, I don’t think even the Trump admin believes that shit, even though they lie about it. I mean it from a military point of view and geopolitically.
        Israel, USA and USA’s partners in the area (Middle East) stand to gain because the Islamic regime is the one financing opposing factions in the are.
        And on a larger scale, USA and USA’s allies stand to win because the Islamic regime is the one actively aiding Russia in its war of conquest against an European country - for how many months/years now … 3 years? 4 years? I lost track. Anyway, for a loooong time they have sent thousands upon thousands of drones to bomb Ukraine.

        • answersplease77@lemmy.world
          5·
          2 days ago

          You mean who opposing factions to US? Yemen? Lebanon? Syria? Iraq? Are you high? Wtf does the US have to do with these third-world countries in the middleeast?

          Furthermore, India, North Korea and even China trade and help Russia in its wars. Iran had to trade with them because of US sanctions in first place.

          If the US wanted to boost trade, economy, and stability of the environment and peace in the reigon, and actually help the people of Iran, they would have lifted sanctions and trade with them instead of this. That way the US would even have irresistable leverage on Iran that would force them to not send a dime to finance Russia in its war as you said.

          Lastly, I dont know who you are referring to by US allies… or US government allies… and how do you define an ally. A genocidal aparthied and oppresive family dictatorships are considered US allies by your standards?

          • dominic.borcea@piefed.socialEnglish
            31·
            2 days ago

            If the US wanted to boost trade, economy, and stability of the environment and peace in the reigon, and actually help the people of Iran

            USA/Israel don’t care about the Iranian people, that’s merely a propaganda stunt.

            Furthermore, India, North Korea and even China trade and help Russia in its wars.

            An open conflict with China is undesirable by both parties almost in equal measure. NK is already sanctioned up the ass, an open conflict would lead to a conflict with China. And I would like you to notice that India is being gradually weaned off the Russian teat, so to speak. Take a look at India’s trends in regards to defense-related imports. Its not a process that started recently, but almost a decade ago. They used to get +65% of their shit from Russia, but in the present that number dropped to 40% and they’ve been replaced by France and Israel. I have a hunch that these numbers will continue to lean geopolitically west-ward.
            India buying of Russian oil has been deemed as an acceptable cost, as they value India’s resources more - and India’s greatest value is people, they have a lot of those. Cheap labour for western capital.
            Hence the “mother of all deals” that was recently signed.

            A genocidal aparthied and oppresive family dictatorships are considered US allies by your standards?

            I’m sorry. Are you new to the whole USA business?

  • Wilco@lemmy.zip
    22·
    2 days ago

    Most people in the US are just so fucking stupid. Here I am in the middle of them just hoping another MAGA or two goes vigilante on their own politicians.