This is exactly how I feel when a monthly bill goes up as result of missed payment, I missed because I’m laid off and broke. What makes them think turning up the heat will result in me suddenly having money appear?
People keep saying that ads are to get the brand into my head, but they dont realise thats a bad thing for the company. I specificly buy brands i DONT see ads for because i believe if they arent spending money on ads but are still being sold in storesz they must be spending that money on bettering the product instead.
Sadly, you’re not the norm. Getting the brand into peoples’ heads actually works in most cases, which is why they keep doing it.
It’s insane to me how little thought people put into things in their daily lives, because you’re right. So many people see a thing and they’re like “Oh, I see the thing. I’ll do the thing. Coke flavored mouthwash on my TV? Yeah, let’s do coke flavored mouthwash.” Literally just the first unfiltered, uncritical reaction they feel.
I had someone the other day tell me they didn’t want to use Firefox because when they did it gave them a bunch of security issues. When I asked what they meant it turned out the security issues in question were the browser asking them if they wanted to let different websites know their location, have access to webcam, etc. “Well I just don’t like that it does that”
I don’t want to stray into XKCD territory, but it does seem like people in general tend to be less…conscientious about such things than I. However, I’m oblivious about plenty of things myself that others are more aware of, so I guess it’s just how different priorities work.
Yeah, I am very oblivious to many civil rights issues for instance. I guess it’s probably safe to assume I’m that kind of person to somebody out there, isn’t it?
Yeah, I instantly felt Myself feel judgy when you said you’re oblivious to civil rights issues. If you wanna learn about them, I’d be happy to answer questions or just tell a story.
Here’s one story. Australia doesn’t technically have marriage equality. We have gay marriage, but that’s not what I’m talking about. See, if you’re on a disability pension, and you live with a partner, you get less money. They assume your partner will cover for you. So lots of disabled people can’t afford to get married.
I do have a couple questions. How should I categorize and structure civil rights issues in my head, is it just by demographic? Where does intersectionality fit into that? Are there easily accessible websites I can look at regularly that will kind of just keep me aware of things that are happening?
I am immersed in groups that are focused on consumer rights and privacy, but I would need somewhere to ease me into civil rights until I have a lot of the baseline knowledge in my head already. Most of the civil rights issues im clued in on are just issues that people who I know personally, and people they know, have to deal with, as well as things I come across on the internet naturally.
I learned a lot of what I know about the current state of things from Lemmy. Reading ordinary news will get you that knowledge, but you have to read between the lines. Let’s do an example.
If we go to boingboing.net (My favourite news site) we see the headline Roblox will now have AI politely rewrite your trash talk. That seems like a cute silly story about games, but let’s use our brains to look for edge cases. AI is bad with nuance, so what happens if a 12 year old uses Roblox to tell their friends they’ve been feeling suicidal? This AI might cut off their access to peer support. That’s going to negatively impact groups that suffer youth suicidality, like queer youth. That angle isn’t explored on the page, you have to go to the comments on a place like Lemmy or use your noodle to find it.
I learned how to critically think about the news in school. In high school English and social science they made us read the news and critically analyse it like that.
Yes, this has been proven experimentally.
seems strange to me that this (in the attached image) isn’t the normal way people think
I don’t have enough lifetime to expend on watching ads. Too time expensive
What scares me is the political and military ads I see every so often. Along with other fud type things. Its nuts and kind of a relief to actually see an ad selling a physical product.
Oh, how about the ads for that insurance company that’s just for military families? Way to bark up the wrong tree. Even if the point is to subtly convince me to join the United States military, that’s still hilariously off-target. Never. gonna. happen.
those and even the charity ones kinda grate on me. We need to do stuff for americans who when young nonchalantly signed off on being willing to kill when told to but fuck other americans.
Ads are profitable, so they will continue, period
says the people profitting from selling ad space
Companies aren’t stupid, they wouldn’t dump money on ads without effects.
Sometimes even if the person seeing it doesn’t buy the product. Down the line if someone asks about something, that’s a product they’re likely to remember to respond with
stop drinking the koolaid… companies make mistakes and run themselves out of business all the time
There’re also many successful companies that have ads.
Companies are stupid, which is why they do things like demand return-to-office even though employees are more productive on average working from home with less micromanagement. And they’re incredibly short-sighted.
Ads make people believe that you need the product and not wish to have it. They show it so much that the brain literally thinks that it is a need and has to be bought even if it takess you go in debt.
All I ever see are political ads and geriatric pharmaceutical ads.
if anything, they should ADD ads to premium users because they have more money
If you don’t have money for either product then you are not their target demographic, and thus, you being inconvenienced or delayed does not concern them in the slightest.
Their goal is to get money from the people who have money. How they affect people with no money is not a factor in their decisions, since no money will be acquired from them regardless.
I get that for stuff like billboards and tv/radio commercials… But why does google and friends keep telling me about how they need my data to give me targeted ads? If they wanted to give me targeted ads, shouldn’t they first figure out how much I’m willing to pay, then get mad at me because I can’t pay for anything and maybe offer ads for mental health services?
I mean obviously the answer is that they just want the data for control and whatnot. But they should just drop the whole pretending to do targeted advertising. I would probably appreciate their honesty if they just told me that they need my data to grow their business, instead of giving me the “we care about your data” and targeted ads bullshit lol
But anyway, doesn’t really matter for me personally since I use ad blockers, if I can’t use ad blockers, I’ll stop using the service and go read a book.
get money from the people who have money.
The “whales” is the advertising business term for that.
You can’t come up with $148.39 once a year?
That’s for premium what?
Is it for my car to accelerate faster? I saw Mercedes listed that at
Monthly: $90/month
Yearly: $900/year
Lifetime of Vehicle: $2,950
And that’s actually from Mercedes website, https://media.mbusa.com/releases/mercedes-benz-usa-announces-performance-acceleration-on-demand-upgrade-for-eqe-and-eqs-customers
YouTube premium $148.39 per year. And they no longer let us break it into monthly payments. I remember when YouTube cost nothing with no ads. And then I remember it cost $7.99 a month. Then it was $9.99 a month. Then for a few years it was $12.99 a month. And all of a sudden they’re like $148.39 a year!
A bit late to the party, but… well…
If a streaming service has an ad-free tier, the ads shown aren’t really there to sell the things they advertise. Oh, sure, the buyer of the ad wants your money, but they didn’t pay a bunch to show you that ad and the revenue from the ad buy just has be “slightly higher than spam” to be worthwhile.
"Ad-Supported’ tiers exist to differentiate the higher cost points. Which is why the ads frequently aren’t aligned with natural break points in the video. And why in some cases it’s the same two or three ads shown for every artificial and clumsy break.
The ads you are seeing exist primarily as an advertisement for the ad-free tier.
Sse Spotify for a proof of this concept. 99% of their ads are specifically to tell you about how cool it is to not have ads.
Or at least they were. My wife’s been paying a long time i dont know what its doing now.
Idiots live in debt by throwing money on bullshit all the time
Makes me think about the saying “We buy stuff we don’t need with money we don’t have to impress people we don’t like”
They don’t care about you. They care about the people that do have the money.
It’s not about buying, it’s about staying in your head, even if you don’t remember it explicitly.
This kinda boring, menial, repetitive propaganda doesn’t try to make you buy something straight away, it’s to make you numb to it, to know it, to receive it without thinking, so then it tries to affect you. It tries to turn nothing into anything resembling truth, it turns advertisement and news, into an endless cycle of boring things that get hammered by the “a lie told 1000 times turns into truth” line.
It doesn’t affect you when you’re watching it, it affects you when you see or do anything relating to it.
When you need to buy new tires, you know what to buy, you don’t buy based on technical sheets, you buy it knowing it, even not explicitly.
(A take from Adorno and Horkheimers “Dialectic of Enlightenment”, the part where they talk about the media, culture, art, etc)
Exactly this, its the main reason people around this corner of the internet push ad-blocking software so much. Its a slow toxin that warps your subjective processing.
Everyone is vulnerable to it, those that claim otherwise are deluded, and the only way to be free of it is to cut advertisment from your life in as many places as possible.
May I introduce you to neurodiversity.
You say everyone is vulnerable to it, I’d like to change your view into: everyone is affected by it.
I am not saying I am deluded or immune but it affects me in quite opposite ways. You see, autists are known to be quite stubborn (in general or places). So there’s this behavior that the more you push the more distance and negativity you’ll receive.
That’s how eg. Radio ads affect me. I can hardly endure listening to it (even passively) but the more I hear the repetition of one ad the more I will actively work against that product or company.
(there’s also research into this counter forceyit just doesn’t work and erode that way)
And to add to that, it worsens mental health issues - at least for me it does. The subconscious “you are not good enough” doesn’t do anything good for anyone.
I do not do ad-supported, ever - they are aggravating, i start grinding my teeth and would rather listen to a construction site than to ads.
Only being half serious here, but I wonder if people in prison ever have to watch or listen to advertisements? Just curious.
I believe i heard of a case where there was a children’s song used as a torture method somewhere in the us, which might be a similar experience…
Found it, it was Baby Shark and in Oklahoma: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/05/oklahoma-county-jail-baby-shark-torture-tactics-lawsuit
Fifteen million merits
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Futurama and the ads broadcast into your dreams.
Especially when it’s for vacation spots, booking sites, or luxury cars. Keep spending that money for no return, guys, because absolutely none of that is happening. (I want to say “not happening anytime soon,” but who am I kidding? I’m already in my upper 30s and I can’t fathom making that kind of money.)
